Mafia 87: Madness in Mega-City One - GAME THREAD

[Chaqa]

Catching up now

[JustAGuyNamedWill]

Catching up now

You are in for a REAL doozy

[Balki Bartokomous]

WhatcI am thinking. Me, Worcej and KoP are town. Will is scum. Brain is either town or in the opposite team from Will.

Balki is un-cced Doc, which can be false but we are not killing him today.

The rest is a bunch of scum with two or three town we need to identify.

I wouldn’t rule out Brain and Will being on the same wolf team, if they are trying to set up Brain to win the game at the end. But otherwise, I agree.

Why would we kill someone who claimed cop that same day when there are PLENTY of other people who claim VT that are most likely not VT

Who has claimed VT?

[kingofthepirates]

Didn’t KOTP claim SJS Cop?

KOTP, are you SJS Cop?

I don't curse often, but dear gods this is messed up, convoluted and annoying. If we're sharing all our fucking roles? Fine. I'm vanilla cop. I'll confirm that. So ND confirmed macho makes sense. Are we all going to lay our cards on the table now? for all to see? and the angels and judges and all the other scum factions can now pick and choose which cop they like the least and murder them in night phase? or even worse, get what could be town's final saving grace, possibly a single doctor, killed? Fucking hell...

geez... this has gone way south from what I expected. slightly calmer now, that took a minute. reading through this entire day has been pretty bad. apologies for cursing, but I'm not changing it. those are my words and feelings, and that is how I make it clear.

right then, who to believe. Firstly, end hammer is, in my eyes, totally wrong here. If everyone is throwing out their roles, we better all do it and then discuss. Secondly: all un contested claimants are fine in my eyes (so far). by pigeon hole principle, I'm pretty sure that we are guaranteed to run into a contradiction. 12 people left, 12 town positions to fill, and several of those town positions are now no long viable (due to being revealed by death/claim). I have no clue how to continue here, so please, enlighten me!

[Chaqa]

I have a guilty on will from N2
Hardclaiming it now

How many cops can there be again?

[kingofthepirates]

I have a guilty on will from N2
Hardclaiming it now

How many cops can there be again?

6 max i think. 12 town, at least 5 are vanilla, at least 1 doctor. we have also seen 2 cop deaths. so that brings it down to 4. I think 3 people so far have hard claimed cop, me, brain, and will. let me know if I missed anyone.

[Balki Bartokomous]

Didn’t KOTP claim SJS Cop?

KOTP, are you SJS Cop?

I don't curse often, but dear gods this is messed up, convoluted and annoying. If we're sharing all our fucking roles? Fine. I'm vanilla cop. I'll confirm that. So ND confirmed macho makes sense. Are we all going to lay our cards on the table now? for all to see? and the angels and judges and all the other scum factions can now pick and choose which cop they like the least and murder them in night phase? or even worse, get what could be town's final saving grace, possibly a single doctor, killed? Fucking hell...

geez... this has gone way south from what I expected. slightly calmer now, that took a minute. reading through this entire day has been pretty bad. apologies for cursing, but I'm not changing it. those are my words and feelings, and that is how I make it clear.

right then, who to believe. Firstly, end hammer is, in my eyes, totally wrong here. If everyone is throwing out their roles, we better all do it and then discuss. Secondly: all un contested claimants are fine in my eyes (so far). by pigeon hole principle, I'm pretty sure that we are guaranteed to run into a contradiction. 12 people left, 12 town positions to fill, and several of those town positions are now no long viable (due to being revealed by death/claim). I have no clue how to continue here, so please, enlighten me!

First, have some tequila like your Tio Balki.

At the start of your post, you seem quite upset at the mass claim idea. But then at the end of the post, you appear to understand exactly why it makes sense.

Most important things to know right now;

1. If you are town, you are no longer in the majority. Town is half of the remaining players.
2. If you are Town, you should almost certainly vote with your Town clears. That is worcej and Rdr.

Not too worried about wolves picking and choosing which Cops to kill. They had enough out in the open already to kill their way to a majority. The largest benefit of our roles now is to force scum to take positions and show themselves.

[Chaqa]

Stop. Do not end anything please. We are at 6-6. We cannot afford to hit end.

Not even I[/] would end right now

[Balki Bartokomous]

I'm going to dinner. It's all going to be okay.

[Chaqa]

I think once Chaqa joins the party and brainbomb comes with is rebuttal we'll have a solid view of what's going on

In the meanwhile, I think, as ghug said don't claim anything

We should have all claimed scum so the mafia teams didn’t know who is who

[ghug]

Massclaim is very dumb
Just kill will who is definetely scum

Dude I’m cop

What cop are you

Methodical
Bye bye Will

So barring CCs I'm inclined to believe brain here because he went first and Will claims to have lied about his result today.

[Chaqa]

Scum are going to fake claim cop scans here. We do not simply believe a guilty cop scan. We put all info on the table and we follow our clears.

This does not strike me as something Balki would say normally.

[ghug]

Well since 5 cops have been revealed and at least one doc then there’s no point in not

So you believe in brainbomb's cop claim?

Well uh yeah. He had so many outlandish theories and crazy theories on my game that just screams cop.

Hmm

[ghug]

##VOTE just

Brain, I can't believe you used a real fucking copscan on pirates.

Looking back, to be fair he had no choice

Yes, and I totally believed he was doing it out of tinfoil, so credit to brain.

[ghug]

I think Balki's plan works, but each cop's result should be modified to TRUE or FALSE so that there's no information being given about which sort of cop is which.

Addictive Cop - INNOCENT=TRUE, GUILTY=FALSE
Macho Cop - INNOCENT=TRUE, GUILTY=FALSE
Naive Cop - INNOCENT=TRUE, GUILTY=FALSE
Methodical Cop - INNOCENT=TRUE, GUILTY=FALSE
Parity Cop - Same=TRUE, different=FALSE, no result=FALSE
Vanilla Cop - Vanilla=TRUE, Not vanilla=FALSE
SJS Cop - Cop=TRUE, Not cop=FALSE
Psychic Cop - Dark=TRUE, not dark=FALSE

I scanned will and the result was true

Quick question for brainbomb here:

Are you reneging on your "true" read on Will?

Yes
i was never giving real result

What the actual fuck

[Chaqa]

Catching up now

You are in for a REAL doozy

I really wish I hadn’t started smoking a joint when I saw the flip.

[JustAGuyNamedWill]

I wouldn’t rule out Brain and Will being on the same wolf team, if they are trying to set up Brain to win the game at the end. But otherwise, I agree.

Why would we kill someone who claimed cop that same day when there are PLENTY of other people who claim VT that are most likely not VT

Who has claimed VT?

Everyone who hasn’t claimed a role

[Chaqa]

Quick question for brainbomb here:

Are you reneging on your "true" read on Will?

Yes
i was never giving real result

What the actual fuck

Is it bad that this makes it more believable for me.

It’s super on brain brand

[ghug]

Scum are going to fake claim cop scans here. We do not simply believe a guilty cop scan. We put all info on the table and we follow our clears.

Balki, I am willing to convinced, but I fail to see how a mass claim improves town's chances of winning at this time. Please spell it out to me rather than appealing to emotion.

[ghug]

Will, as SJS cop whyd you choose your targets

For one, ghug seemed like a non-PA angel target.

Kotp was my target N2 because I had kinda sussed that he was cop and wanted to confirm

Food was just so that I wasn’t getting snowed

Why did I seem like an unlikely target of the angel?

Why did you think the best use of your scan was to confirm a cop read?