Mafia 87: Madness in Mega-City One - GAME THREAD

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Re: Mafia 87: Madness in Mega-City One - GAME THREAD

#4221 Post by snowy801 » Wed Apr 10, 2024 12:13 am

JustAGuyNamedWill wrote:
Wed Apr 10, 2024 12:11 am
snowy801 wrote:
Wed Apr 10, 2024 12:09 am
JustAGuyNamedWill wrote:
Wed Apr 10, 2024 12:06 am


Well since 5 cops have been revealed and at least one doc then there’s no point in not
So you believe in brainbomb's cop claim?
Well uh yeah. He had so many outlandish theories and crazy theories on my game that just screams cop.
But if he is methodical cop, it is impossible for him to be mistaken on your alignment, which he claims is guilty (non-town).

Do you then think he is cop, but simply lying about everything for shits and giggles?

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Re: Mafia 87: Madness in Mega-City One - GAME THREAD

#4222 Post by JustAGuyNamedWill » Wed Apr 10, 2024 12:13 am

I didn’t understand why he was doing it and that’s why I scumread him so much.

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Re: Mafia 87: Madness in Mega-City One - GAME THREAD

#4223 Post by snowy801 » Wed Apr 10, 2024 12:14 am

ghug wrote:
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##VOTE just

Brain, I can't believe you used a real fucking copscan on pirates.
Looking back, to be fair he had no choice

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Re: Mafia 87: Madness in Mega-City One - GAME THREAD

#4224 Post by JustAGuyNamedWill » Wed Apr 10, 2024 12:15 am

snowy801 wrote:
Wed Apr 10, 2024 12:13 am
JustAGuyNamedWill wrote:
Wed Apr 10, 2024 12:11 am
snowy801 wrote:
Wed Apr 10, 2024 12:09 am


So you believe in brainbomb's cop claim?
Well uh yeah. He had so many outlandish theories and crazy theories on my game that just screams cop.
But if he is methodical cop, it is impossible for him to be mistaken on your alignment, which he claims is guilty (non-town).

Do you then think he is cop, but simply lying about everything for shits and giggles?
When does it say he can’t be mistaken? Can the result not be flipped?

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Re: Mafia 87: Madness in Mega-City One - GAME THREAD

#4225 Post by snowy801 » Wed Apr 10, 2024 12:16 am

JustAGuyNamedWill wrote:
Wed Apr 10, 2024 12:15 am
snowy801 wrote:
Wed Apr 10, 2024 12:13 am
JustAGuyNamedWill wrote:
Wed Apr 10, 2024 12:11 am


Well uh yeah. He had so many outlandish theories and crazy theories on my game that just screams cop.
But if he is methodical cop, it is impossible for him to be mistaken on your alignment, which he claims is guilty (non-town).

Do you then think he is cop, but simply lying about everything for shits and giggles?
When does it say he can’t be mistaken? Can the result not be flipped?
METHODICAL COP
The Methodical Cop must, during D1, send a list of who they wish to investigate each night. The list must order all living players. Each night, they will then investigate those targets in the order listed, one per night, and learn their alignment (returning INNOCENT or GUILTY. All non-Town return "GUILTY"). This ability will skip over dead people.


The methodical cop's results are completely reliable, as best as I can discern.

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Re: Mafia 87: Madness in Mega-City One - GAME THREAD

#4226 Post by JustAGuyNamedWill » Wed Apr 10, 2024 12:17 am

snowy801 wrote:
Wed Apr 10, 2024 12:16 am
JustAGuyNamedWill wrote:
Wed Apr 10, 2024 12:15 am
snowy801 wrote:
Wed Apr 10, 2024 12:13 am


But if he is methodical cop, it is impossible for him to be mistaken on your alignment, which he claims is guilty (non-town).

Do you then think he is cop, but simply lying about everything for shits and giggles?
When does it say he can’t be mistaken? Can the result not be flipped?
METHODICAL COP
The Methodical Cop must, during D1, send a list of who they wish to investigate each night. The list must order all living players. Each night, they will then investigate those targets in the order listed, one per night, and learn their alignment (returning INNOCENT or GUILTY. All non-Town return "GUILTY"). This ability will skip over dead people.


The methodical cop's results are completely reliable, as best as I can discern.
??? What if the PA angel picks me N2?

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Re: Mafia 87: Madness in Mega-City One - GAME THREAD

#4227 Post by JustAGuyNamedWill » Wed Apr 10, 2024 12:18 am

snowy801 wrote:
Wed Apr 10, 2024 12:16 am
JustAGuyNamedWill wrote:
Wed Apr 10, 2024 12:15 am
snowy801 wrote:
Wed Apr 10, 2024 12:13 am


But if he is methodical cop, it is impossible for him to be mistaken on your alignment, which he claims is guilty (non-town).

Do you then think he is cop, but simply lying about everything for shits and giggles?
When does it say he can’t be mistaken? Can the result not be flipped?
METHODICAL COP
The Methodical Cop must, during D1, send a list of who they wish to investigate each night. The list must order all living players. Each night, they will then investigate those targets in the order listed, one per night, and learn their alignment (returning INNOCENT or GUILTY. All non-Town return "GUILTY"). This ability will skip over dead people.


The methodical cop's results are completely reliable, as best as I can discern.
Well even if this is true, then I guess all non-town must mean all not VTs because I am still a cop lol

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Re: Mafia 87: Madness in Mega-City One - GAME THREAD

#4228 Post by snowy801 » Wed Apr 10, 2024 12:18 am

JustAGuyNamedWill wrote:
Wed Apr 10, 2024 12:17 am
snowy801 wrote:
Wed Apr 10, 2024 12:16 am
JustAGuyNamedWill wrote:
Wed Apr 10, 2024 12:15 am


When does it say he can’t be mistaken? Can the result not be flipped?
METHODICAL COP
The Methodical Cop must, during D1, send a list of who they wish to investigate each night. The list must order all living players. Each night, they will then investigate those targets in the order listed, one per night, and learn their alignment (returning INNOCENT or GUILTY. All non-Town return "GUILTY"). This ability will skip over dead people.


The methodical cop's results are completely reliable, as best as I can discern.
??? What if the PA angel picks me N2?
Oh, this is true. Hmm

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#4229 Post by snowy801 » Wed Apr 10, 2024 12:19 am

You must still concede that the odds are rather against you and brainbomb both speaking the truth

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#4230 Post by JustAGuyNamedWill » Wed Apr 10, 2024 12:19 am

So now we know either brain is a liar or all N2 scans are completely accurate except for Addictive Cop and Naive Cop. So if you didn’t get a generic Cop PM, then all your N2 scans are 100% accurate

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Re: Mafia 87: Madness in Mega-City One - GAME THREAD

#4231 Post by JustAGuyNamedWill » Wed Apr 10, 2024 12:21 am

snowy801 wrote:
Wed Apr 10, 2024 12:19 am
You must still concede that the odds are rather against you and brainbomb both speaking the truth
That is true. So unless we are both lying (which is extremely unlikely from an outside perspective), we should not be flipped today and rather, we should do balki/DrFid and just hope one of us gets a scan off next night

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#4232 Post by snowy801 » Wed Apr 10, 2024 12:22 am

ghug wrote:
Mon Apr 01, 2024 9:31 pm
I think Balki's plan works, but each cop's result should be modified to TRUE or FALSE so that there's no information being given about which sort of cop is which.

Addictive Cop - INNOCENT=TRUE, GUILTY=FALSE
Macho Cop - INNOCENT=TRUE, GUILTY=FALSE
Naive Cop - INNOCENT=TRUE, GUILTY=FALSE
Methodical Cop - INNOCENT=TRUE, GUILTY=FALSE
Parity Cop - Same=TRUE, different=FALSE, no result=FALSE
Vanilla Cop - Vanilla=TRUE, Not vanilla=FALSE
SJS Cop - Cop=TRUE, Not cop=FALSE
Psychic Cop - Dark=TRUE, not dark=FALSE
brainbomb wrote:
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I scanned will and the result was true
Quick question for brainbomb here:

Are you reneging on your "true" read on Will?

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#4233 Post by brainbomb » Wed Apr 10, 2024 12:24 am

snowy801 wrote:
Wed Apr 10, 2024 12:22 am
ghug wrote:
Mon Apr 01, 2024 9:31 pm
I think Balki's plan works, but each cop's result should be modified to TRUE or FALSE so that there's no information being given about which sort of cop is which.

Addictive Cop - INNOCENT=TRUE, GUILTY=FALSE
Macho Cop - INNOCENT=TRUE, GUILTY=FALSE
Naive Cop - INNOCENT=TRUE, GUILTY=FALSE
Methodical Cop - INNOCENT=TRUE, GUILTY=FALSE
Parity Cop - Same=TRUE, different=FALSE, no result=FALSE
Vanilla Cop - Vanilla=TRUE, Not vanilla=FALSE
SJS Cop - Cop=TRUE, Not cop=FALSE
Psychic Cop - Dark=TRUE, not dark=FALSE
brainbomb wrote:
Sun Apr 07, 2024 9:05 pm
I scanned will and the result was true
Quick question for brainbomb here:

Are you reneging on your "true" read on Will?
Yes
i was never giving real result

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Re: Mafia 87: Madness in Mega-City One - GAME THREAD

#4234 Post by JustAGuyNamedWill » Wed Apr 10, 2024 12:25 am

Why the heck did brain not just out right there if he had a guilty on me

Because he seems to have outed just to kill me today

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#4235 Post by snowy801 » Wed Apr 10, 2024 12:25 am

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Mon Apr 08, 2024 12:47 am
Okay
I think its possible that will is mafia with both ND, and kotp

This is some wacked out crazy shit but what if neither of these ppl are cops. And the roleblock was also fake.

Im trying to process this whole thing and if there is some way they could all just be faking under that umbrella
Also if you had an inno on ND from d1, this doesn't particularly make sense either.

Am I misreading the key? I thought this ghug corollary was what you lot was following

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Re: Mafia 87: Madness in Mega-City One - GAME THREAD

#4236 Post by Balki Bartokomous » Wed Apr 10, 2024 12:25 am

JustAGuyNamedWill wrote:
Wed Apr 10, 2024 12:21 am
snowy801 wrote:
Wed Apr 10, 2024 12:19 am
You must still concede that the odds are rather against you and brainbomb both speaking the truth
That is true. So unless we are both lying (which is extremely unlikely from an outside perspective), we should not be flipped today and rather, we should do balki/DrFid and just hope one of us gets a scan off next night
So, you are obviously not Town. It is 6-6.

We need all info on the table right now. Before scum get another Night Chat to plot.

And it is an open wolf move not to vote with our two clears, worcej and RdR.

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#4237 Post by brainbomb » Wed Apr 10, 2024 12:26 am

snowy801 wrote:
Wed Apr 10, 2024 12:25 am
brainbomb wrote:
Mon Apr 08, 2024 12:47 am
Okay
I think its possible that will is mafia with both ND, and kotp

This is some wacked out crazy shit but what if neither of these ppl are cops. And the roleblock was also fake.

Im trying to process this whole thing and if there is some way they could all just be faking under that umbrella
Also if you had an inno on ND from d1, this doesn't particularly make sense either.

Am I misreading the key? I thought this ghug corollary was what you lot was following
My N1 scan wasnt Nd
i havent said who it really was yet

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Re: Mafia 87: Madness in Mega-City One - GAME THREAD

#4238 Post by snowy801 » Wed Apr 10, 2024 12:27 am

Balki Bartokomous wrote:
Wed Apr 10, 2024 12:25 am
JustAGuyNamedWill wrote:
Wed Apr 10, 2024 12:21 am
snowy801 wrote:
Wed Apr 10, 2024 12:19 am
You must still concede that the odds are rather against you and brainbomb both speaking the truth
That is true. So unless we are both lying (which is extremely unlikely from an outside perspective), we should not be flipped today and rather, we should do balki/DrFid and just hope one of us gets a scan off next night
So, you are obviously not Town. It is 6-6.

We need all info on the table right now. Before scum get another Night Chat to plot.

And it is an open wolf move not to vote with our two clears, worcej and RdR.
friend I hate to break it to you but you're the one not voting with our only clear currently voting

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#4239 Post by Balki Bartokomous » Wed Apr 10, 2024 12:27 am

Scum are going to fake claim cop scans here. We do not simply believe a guilty cop scan. We put all info on the table and we follow our clears.

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#4240 Post by JustAGuyNamedWill » Wed Apr 10, 2024 12:27 am

Balki Bartokomous wrote:
Wed Apr 10, 2024 12:25 am
JustAGuyNamedWill wrote:
Wed Apr 10, 2024 12:21 am
snowy801 wrote:
Wed Apr 10, 2024 12:19 am
You must still concede that the odds are rather against you and brainbomb both speaking the truth
That is true. So unless we are both lying (which is extremely unlikely from an outside perspective), we should not be flipped today and rather, we should do balki/DrFid and just hope one of us gets a scan off next night
So, you are obviously not Town. It is 6-6.

We need all info on the table right now. Before scum get another Night Chat to plot.

And it is an open wolf move not to vote with our two clears, worcej and RdR.
balki, they’re voting me. And I don’t want to risk killing a potential cop here.

I am an unCCed cop. and you want to flip me

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