Mafia 87: Madness in Mega-City One - GAME THREAD

[Chaqa]

Chaqa is scum

There's no universe where town Chaqa doesn't consider the implications of the endhammer

I understood it, but I also was not about to let people unhammer and waste another 24 hours just to talk themselves out of killing a caught scum. I've seen enough stupid shit happen in webdip mafia that I'm going to do what I think needs to get done sometimes.

Also a blatant lie
Nobody who endhammered already was going to unendhammer
That's an impossible train of thought

We've had endhammers get to 1 vote away and then dissipate before. I don't really care what your opinion on it is.

I don't even think Balki is mafia, so to me it's not like anything is going to happen, and if it does, then we know who a mafia is. Trading 1 town for 1 mafia is always a good deal.

Your overreaction is bad acting

[snowy801]

should we be concerned about hammering with this Balki Bartokomous (2)
snowy801 foodcoats

still in action?

not sure what we can really do about it either way

If there are concerns that ND is a poisoned Angel (I don"t, but I think I saw some) I would think Kaka and Dip's vote is a greater concern, no?

Even if Dip thinks ND is scum for obvious reasons he shouldn't be voting him

If Snowy were town he would have unvoted after brain's post like food did.

And now he comes after me because he has nothing to say to his defense
I know this group makes some stupid reads sometimes but if we miss this one then I have 0 hope for this lot

[snowy801]

I understood it, but I also was not about to let people unhammer and waste another 24 hours just to talk themselves out of killing a caught scum. I've seen enough stupid shit happen in webdip mafia that I'm going to do what I think needs to get done sometimes.

Also a blatant lie
Nobody who endhammered already was going to unendhammer
That's an impossible train of thought

We've had endhammers get to 1 vote away and then dissipate before. I don't really care what your opinion on it is.

I don't even think Balki is mafia, so to me it's not like anything is going to happen, and if it does, then we know who a mafia is. Trading 1 town for 1 mafia is always a good deal.

Your overreaction is bad acting

There's no overreaction, it is simply true
Once again, you act like you contributed to a Dip kill which is strictly untrue, and framing the conversation in such a way that you believe Kaka and I are upset that Dip is dead, not all the other factors that was mentioned, which is also a clear indicator that you are scum because you can't possibly believe that's why the two of us are on your case

[Chaqa]

Also a blatant lie
Nobody who endhammered already was going to unendhammer
That's an impossible train of thought

We've had endhammers get to 1 vote away and then dissipate before. I don't really care what your opinion on it is.

I don't even think Balki is mafia, so to me it's not like anything is going to happen, and if it does, then we know who a mafia is. Trading 1 town for 1 mafia is always a good deal.

Your overreaction is bad acting

There's no overreaction, it is simply true
Once again, you act like you contributed to a Dip kill which is strictly untrue, and framing the conversation in such a way that you believe Kaka and I are upset that Dip is dead, not all the other factors that was mentioned, which is also a clear indicator that you are scum because you can't possibly believe that's why the two of us are on your case

Man, I spent a good part of Days 1 and 2 trying to get Dip killed. You aren't going to be able to convince me of something I know to be wrong. You can suspect me all you want, it only makes me stronger.

[Chaqa]

This is the same kind of attitude you gave me in that game where I caught like half your team in one phase when I was the cop and you didn't roleblock me.

[ghug]

Ok it looks like the bot is just broken. I'll catch up the old fashioned way.

[snowy801]

This is the same kind of attitude you gave me in that game where I caught like half your team in one phase when I was the cop and you didn't roleblock me.

The no flip game?
Quote one post that indicates that this claim is true, rather than you just making shit up
Also if memory serves we didn't roleblock you because we thought you were the worst cop in existence, which in reflection is still true

[ghug]

I hardclaim not vanilla cop.

The only way kotp"s progression msense akes is if he is vanilla cop. A false would make ND more likely scum than town PR but still possible cop.

I believe this and quasi town clear both ND and kotp.

Dip is therefore almost certainly scum. There is the PA possiblity but we cannot afford to let him slip by on that basis.

##end

Why are you like this?

[snowy801]

This is the same kind of attitude you gave me in that game where I caught like half your team in one phase when I was the cop and you didn't roleblock me.

The no flip game?
Quote one post that indicates that this claim is true, rather than you just making shit up
Also if memory serves we didn't roleblock you because we thought you were the worst cop in existence, which in reflection is still true

I will once again point out the attempt to frame as though he made any actual contributions to this kill, as town cred is not something town players ever seek

[Chaqa]

This is the same kind of attitude you gave me in that game where I caught like half your team in one phase when I was the cop and you didn't roleblock me.

The no flip game?
Quote one post that indicates that this claim is true, rather than you just making shit up
Also if memory serves we didn't roleblock you because we thought you were the worst cop in existence, which in reflection is still true

I don't remember the game number, but I think it was the no-flip. All I remember is I caught you and Tom in the same phase and you were very much a dick about it.

[ghug]

Night 1 Night 2
Player Target Report Target Report
Sweet brain F x x
Balki brain T ghug F
Vecna brain T x x
Damo brain T ND T
Food vecna F NONE X
worcej snowy T ghug T
Kotp rdr F/RB ND F
Kak rdr T worcej T
Will ghug F kotp T
rdr damo T NONE X
Dip kak T rdr F
ghug kak T food T
brain ND T Will T
ND Dip GUILTY worcej NOT GUILTY
DrF damo F NONE X
snowy NONE X NONE X
dargdemon NONE X NONE X
Chaqa NONE X NONE X


Sorry about the formatting. Copy pasted from spreadsheet.

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[Chaqa]

This is the same kind of attitude you gave me in that game where I caught like half your team in one phase when I was the cop and you didn't roleblock me.

The no flip game?
Quote one post that indicates that this claim is true, rather than you just making shit up
Also if memory serves we didn't roleblock you because we thought you were the worst cop in existence, which in reflection is still true

I will once again point out the attempt to frame as though he made any actual contributions to this kill, as town cred is not something town players ever seek

Patently untrue statement.

Town want to be seen as town because it allows us to narrow down the PoE. Unfocused towns lose games. Apathy loses games.

It's ludicrous to be upset only at me for hammering when eight other people hammered and YOU were the one who left yourself voting on Balki in the first place.

[snowy801]

This is the same kind of attitude you gave me in that game where I caught like half your team in one phase when I was the cop and you didn't roleblock me.

The no flip game?
Quote one post that indicates that this claim is true, rather than you just making shit up
Also if memory serves we didn't roleblock you because we thought you were the worst cop in existence, which in reflection is still true

I don't remember the game number, but I think it was the no-flip. All I remember is I caught you and Tom in the same phase and you were very much a dick about it.

So you believe that I am upset at you specifically for killing Dip among all the people who was end hammering or on the wagon, and this is because Dip is my teammate and I once again blame you for the Dip flip?

Be clear in your passive aggressive accusations please

[ghug]

should we be concerned about hammering with this Balki Bartokomous (2)
snowy801 foodcoats

still in action?

not sure what we can really do about it either way

We won't hammer before T-25 I hope.

@snowy and @food the Diphammer is inevitable. Please move off Balki jic he is MMA. Assuming Dip flps scum we can get Balki tomorrow.

I don’t think it should be so inevitable. Anyone who is hammering is Dip is agreeing to turn town’s game on this decision.

I think it's worth calling out here that when town is at the bottom of the barrel, which may still happen at some point, we can simply not target the obvious candidates and force scum to target each other as the bigger threats.

Also I really like how food is playing this. Very unlikely to be D&W's teammate, at least.

[ghug]

Consider also that the Angels may have IDd Judge Death by RBing him N1. This would allow angelic!ND to pose as a cop. If D&W flips scum ND may still be an angel.

Everyone should slow down. Smoke a fat blunt and drink four fingers of bourbon or whatever you need to do. Stop and think about the game possibilities. Stare at the oncoming eclipse without protection and in blindness see the things your mundane eyes cannot.

Yeah I don't think food goes on all these tangents if he's on either mafia team.

[Chaqa]

The no flip game?
Quote one post that indicates that this claim is true, rather than you just making shit up
Also if memory serves we didn't roleblock you because we thought you were the worst cop in existence, which in reflection is still true

I don't remember the game number, but I think it was the no-flip. All I remember is I caught you and Tom in the same phase and you were very much a dick about it.

So you believe that I am upset at you specifically for killing Dip among all the people who was end hammering or on the wagon, and this is because Dip is my teammate and I once again blame you for the Dip flip?

Be clear in your passive aggressive accusations please

I think it could be a couple different things. One of those is that your Balki’s teammate and you want to distract from your successful enable of his power by pushing me. The other is that you’re upset at yourself for fucking up by voting Balki and are projecting it onto me.

When it came time to hammer, it didn’t even cross my mind that I shouldn’t. It was discussed earlier, but that was earlier, and I wasn’t thinking about it at the time I hammered. I don’t think that should surprise anyone.

[JustAGuyNamedWill]

Potential Chaqa food ghug team? XD

Maybe

[JustAGuyNamedWill]

If by some insane turn of events they are scum together this is some crazy open wolfing

[ghug]

Research

Balki at highest point D2
Balki (6) brainbomb, chaqa, diplomacy, justaguynamedwill, snowy801, sweet
sweet (6) Balki, DemonRHK, drFid, kingofpirates, rdrivera, worcej
ND (2) ghug, kak
worcej (2) damo, vecna

(these are not in order of vote, they are in alphabetical, as that is easer without gm vote counts to transfer over from bot to here, if someone has a better way to show vote order please do so)



ND at highest point
ND(5): brainbomb, chaqa, demonrhk, ghug, kak
Sweet(5) (Balki, Dr Fid, kingofpirates, Rdrivera, worcej
Balki (4) DipandWar, JustaguynamedWill, snowy801, sweet
worcej (2) Damo666, vecna


Damo at highest point
Damo (4) DIp and War, Foodcoats, Justaguynamedwill, sweetandcool
ND (2) kak, snowy
Sweet (2) Balki, worcej
Balki (1) brainbomb
foodcoats (1) damo
Dip (1) Chaqa
Unvoted (1) Demon RHK
JustaguynamedWill (1) ghug
Rdrivera (1) Kingofpirates
brainbomb (1) Vecna



Thoughts on this: dipandwar votes and actions seems to imply balki is never on a team with him.

Didn't dip just have great success as scum with a heavy bus strategy?

[JustAGuyNamedWill]

Er I think if food or ghug does flip scum the other is paired with them