Mafia 87: Madness in Mega-City One - GAME THREAD

[JustAGuyNamedWill]

Damo, why would scum want to do a false result over a true result?

[damo666]

There are three players who reported a false result but are not voting for their alleged target. I purport that this makes them statistically more likely to be scum than other players.

These are

food
Will
sweet

I am willing to vote any of these.

Kotp is voting rdr on whom he claimed FALSE but he also so claimed RB so this is nonsense.

Sweet reported False on Brain after Vecna and Balki had already reported TRUE (which I also subsequently reported). I'm not really sure what to make of this. If he were scum wouldn't he mimic the other two?

So I am left with food and Will. Will already has a vote so I'll go there.

##vote Just

… This is probably the worst post in the whole game so far

Why?

[JustAGuyNamedWill]

I have PLENTY

1. This looks like cop hunting
2. There are many different interpretations of TRUE and FALSE, FALSE could be not a judge/angel, and true could mean is a judge/angel
3. This looks like a way you can conveniently push food, kotp, and me
4. Your reasoning on sweet is stupid. I thought we agreed the result we got would be random?
5. This has underlying tones of agenda
6. Vibes

[Balki Bartokomous]

* * * Balki Note: Everyone please read the rules again. If you have questions, ask them here.

Nobody put any stock at all into any of the hypo claims. They are purposefully ambiguous. They tell you nothing. Completely disregard them until we have Cop flips or Cop hard claims. Cheers. * * *

[JustAGuyNamedWill]

1. You seem to be more confident that I am not Town than you are about anything else in the game. What gives you that confidence?

I am not confident anymore. You just seem null(lean scum tho) to me. But at the time you gave off the most pingy posts and seem to be focused solely on mechs

​2. You suggested that you think I am "pretty good scum." What does that mean? Do you expect to be able to sort out "pretty good scum" with such confidence on page 4 or 5?

It means that nobody else seems to significantly be pinged by your slot. I wasn’t confident per se, but I was the most confident in you being scum

​3. I sent you three games to read after you asked me to send you my MU games. Did you read any of them? Did you learn anything that would be useful for this game?

I kind of skimmed them. You seem different, in some way, you don’t give off the same vibe as the three town games you linked. And that is another reason you’re kinda pinging me

​4. You expressed that, if I am Town, I would be quite useful Town. If you believe that, why wouldn't you want to wait a night or two to see if I am killed by the bad guys? If I am possibly an effective Towny, then waiting allows me to help, gives you a chance to have your suspicions confirmed or not by way of a NK, and tells you more about me if I am NOT NKed.
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Well because i was the most confident in you being scum. So I voted the person I was most confident in being scum

5. Can you explain what about my play has "pinged you HARD"?

idk, vibes. I am not amazing at is but you just seem scummy

​6. Do you have any questions for me about my motivations for making any particular post or doing anything in particular?

m, not really if I’m being honest, most of your posts are straightforward in understanding them.

[JustAGuyNamedWill]

Damo, why would scum want to do a false result over a true result?

Also @damo

[JustAGuyNamedWill]

Anyways damo if you don’t have an impeccable explanation for that post then I’m gonna vote you

[Balki Bartokomous]

Thanks JustAGuyNamedWIll. I am still reading you as Town.

I wish you could articulate your impressions more than "vibes," but the vague way that you are putting it (repeatedly) seems NAI, unless somebody tells me JAGNW has more precise rationale as Town!JAGNW.

[JustAGuyNamedWill]

1. You seem to be more confident that I am not Town than you are about anything else in the game. What gives you that confidence?

I am not confident anymore. You just seem null(lean scum tho) to me. But at the time you gave off the most pingy posts and seem to be focused solely on mechs

​2. You suggested that you think I am "pretty good scum." What does that mean? Do you expect to be able to sort out "pretty good scum" with such confidence on page 4 or 5?

It means that nobody else seems to significantly be pinged by your slot. I wasn’t confident per se, but I was the most confident in you being scum

​3. I sent you three games to read after you asked me to send you my MU games. Did you read any of them? Did you learn anything that would be useful for this game?

I kind of skimmed them. You seem different, in some way, you don’t give off the same vibe as the three town games you linked. And that is another reason you’re kinda pinging me

​4. You expressed that, if I am Town, I would be quite useful Town. If you believe that, why wouldn't you want to wait a night or two to see if I am killed by the bad guys? If I am possibly an effective Towny, then waiting allows me to help, gives you a chance to have your suspicions confirmed or not by way of a NK, and tells you more about me if I am NOT NKed.
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Well because i was the most confident in you being scum. So I voted the person I was most confident in being scum

5. Can you explain what about my play has "pinged you HARD"?

idk, vibes. I am not amazing at is but you just seem scummy

​6. Do you have any questions for me about my motivations for making any particular post or doing anything in particular?

m, not really if I’m being honest, most of your posts are straightforward in understanding them.

I forgot after you asked but then the blue text reminded me

Why do you do the blue text/red text thing?

[JustAGuyNamedWill]

Thanks JustAGuyNamedWIll. I am still reading you as Town.

I wish you could articulate your impressions more than "vibes," but the vague way that you are putting it (repeatedly) seems NAI, unless somebody tells me JAGNW has more precise rationale as Town!JAGNW.

Oh hell na I’m the least precise player in the whole game

JAGNW is not a nickname I prefer lmao

[Balki Bartokomous]

Anyways damo if you don’t have an impeccable explanation for that post then I’m gonna vote you

I agree that Damo's post is illogical. Is it the kind of illogic that comes from Scum or Town? That's what I'm considering.

[JustAGuyNamedWill]

Anyways damo if you don’t have an impeccable explanation for that post then I’m gonna vote you

I agree that Damo's post is illogical. Is it the kind of illogic that comes from Scum or Town? That's what I'm considering.

I don’t know damo that well, but from the games I’ve played with him, that is probably the most scummy post I’ve seen from him

I’m trying to figure that out still so I’m waiting on his response

[ghug]

I promise I am not lying that I am traveling. If that’s my scum meta, it’s unfortunate.

Oh sorry I am not saying you are lying at all. I believe you. More just a gut feeling on how you I have seen you play and how it might be effective if you were to be scum in a multiball setup like this.

I also think I was scum in the last multi-ball, but was more pissy and annoyed because the setup was broken by the number of confirmed PRs and a role that could scan for them. It was another time when the setup was broken by mechanics and it pissed me off.

Pleasantly surprised that it hasn’t happened here yet, but honestly we’ve gotten a lot better about vetting setups than we were back then.

We've had two pretty badly broken games recently, lol.

[JustAGuyNamedWill]

Thanks JustAGuyNamedWIll. I am still reading you as Town.

I wish you could articulate your impressions more than "vibes," but the vague way that you are putting it (repeatedly) seems NAI, unless somebody tells me JAGNW has more precise rationale as Town!JAGNW.

I still sorta null-scum read you, and your posts in this game are still pinging me, but I genuinely can’t tell why

[JustAGuyNamedWill]

Oh sorry I am not saying you are lying at all. I believe you. More just a gut feeling on how you I have seen you play and how it might be effective if you were to be scum in a multiball setup like this.

I also think I was scum in the last multi-ball, but was more pissy and annoyed because the setup was broken by the number of confirmed PRs and a role that could scan for them. It was another time when the setup was broken by mechanics and it pissed me off.

Pleasantly surprised that it hasn’t happened here yet, but honestly we’ve gotten a lot better about vetting setups than we were back then.

We've had two pretty badly broken games recently, lol.

I know we had M85 but what was the other one? M1027? That one seemed like just bad luck from the scumteam

[JustAGuyNamedWill]

Oh shit I forgot that I still had a rdr vote

##UNVOTE

I will be honest, I thought kotp was softclaiming cop but i believe his RB claim

[JustAGuyNamedWill]

Oh shit I forgot that I still had a rdr vote

##UNVOTE

I will be honest, I thought kotp was softclaiming cop but i believe his RB claim

[JustAGuyNamedWill]

Oops double post

[sweetandcool]

##VOTE damo

[Balki Bartokomous]

Thanks JustAGuyNamedWIll. I am still reading you as Town.

I wish you could articulate your impressions more than "vibes," but the vague way that you are putting it (repeatedly) seems NAI, unless somebody tells me JAGNW has more precise rationale as Town!JAGNW.

Oh hell na I’m the least precise player in the whole game

JAGNW is not a nickname I prefer lmao

Still workshopping. "Just" and "Will" don't do you justice, while writing the whole damn thing out is ridiculous. I'm gunna put some careful thought into this. Priority #1.

Just a Guy?
Jagunaw?
JAG?
Billy?
Shakespeare?
Arnett?
JustAWillNamedGuy?
Wills & Estates?