Mafia 87: Madness in Mega-City One - GAME THREAD

[JustAGuyNamedWill]

Will you need a different name people use the word "will" way too often

Some people call me Just

[snowy801]

Will you need a different name people use the word "will" way too often

Some people call me Just

I'm not convinced that's all that much better...

[snowy801]

ghug who are the two new guys, by the way?

I imagine Dip is one

[JustAGuyNamedWill]

Will you need a different name people use the word "will" way too often

Some people call me Just

I'm not convinced that's all that much better...

Maybe call me A

[DiplomacyandWarfare]

snip

I scumread you. Hypoclaims are irrelevant.

Hypo scans are not irrelevant
##VOTE GHUG

I don't quite think that's what he meant

What did he mean?

[JustAGuyNamedWill]

ghug who are the two new guys, by the way?

I imagine Dip is one

Its kingofthepirates and DrFidelis, Dip is relatively new, this is his 3rd game

[DiplomacyandWarfare]

ghug who are the two new guys, by the way?

I imagine Dip is one

Nope. I was in M85 (5 posts) and the mini (I was scum).

[JustAGuyNamedWill]

Hypo scans are not irrelevant
##VOTE GHUG

I don't quite think that's what he meant

What did he mean?

He meant that hypoclaims are irrelevant to his scumread

[snowy801]

Whoever said foodcoats was apparently a high poster on day 1 but didn't leave a mark left an impression on me

[Chaqa]

Ghug- TRUE
Balki- TRUE- brainbomb
Brain- TRUE- ND
Dip- TRUE- Kak
Kak- TRUE
Sweet- FALSE
Will- FALSE- Ghug
Vecna- TRUE

I told you this was anti-town.

Really ghug? Lmao

[snowy801]

Also sweet made a hard u-turn on not doing hypoclaims, huh

[ghug]

snip

I scumread you. Hypoclaims are irrelevant.

Hypo scans are not irrelevant
##VOTE GHUG

They are irrelevant to our current decision making. Some of them will later become relevant.

Take Will's:
He could be town faking a scan who picked "FALSE" at random.
He could be scum faking a scan who picked "FALSE" at random.
He could be scum faking a scan with the intent to shade me.
He could be a parity cop faking a scan on me because he doesn't have a result yet.
He could be a cop who legitimately scanned me. Of the seven cops he can be with the result he has (i.e. not naïve or parity), three would return false on a VT, and a fourth might.

That Will has announced a false scan on me gives me no meaningful information on his role, even knowing my own.

[ghug]

ghug who are the two new guys, by the way?

I imagine Dip is one

King Pirate and Dr. F

Dip is fairly new, but he's played a few times.

[sweetandcool]

Whoever said foodcoats was apparently a high poster on day 1 but didn't leave a mark left an impression on me

I did, that was me.

[worcej]

True

[brainbomb]

True

[DiplomacyandWarfare]

snip

I scumread you. Hypoclaims are irrelevant.

Hypo scans are not irrelevant
##VOTE GHUG

They are irrelevant to our current decision making. Some of them will later become relevant.

Take Will's:
He could be town faking a scan who picked "FALSE" at random.
He could be scum faking a scan who picked "FALSE" at random.
He could be scum faking a scan with the intent to shade me.
He could be a parity cop faking a scan on me because he doesn't have a result yet.
He could be a cop who legitimately scanned me. Of the seven cops he can be with the result he has (i.e. not naïve or parity), three would return false on a VT, and a fourth might.

That Will has announced a false scan on me gives me no meaningful information on his role, even knowing my own.

This is why I suggested a corollary where a false result could mean:
Will is a town faking a scan
Will is scum
Will is a cop who read you as guilty/dark/parity to a known scum
Will is a cop who read you as either Not Vanilla or Cop Including Dark Judges

The second is an unavoidable risk. The first, third, and fourth (less likely) would equal out to a vague scumread on you. Not a good reason to vote you out, but if you have a lot of False hypo scans on you it would be a pretty good indication of a scum. If you are getting wagoned for a bunch of False hypo scans of the fourth variety, you can just reveal you are a cop anyways. I said this was a better option, and SOMEONE dissed my plan.
(ghug and balki. Sweet and damo also indicated they preferred ghug's plan)

It should be noted that this was a hypothetical example. I am not scumreading ghug. Please snip this post if you quote it.

[Jamiet99uk]

++VOTE COUNT 2.0++
rdrivera2005 (3) - brainbomb, kingofthepirates, JustAGuyNamedWill
foodcoats (1) - snowy801
JustAGuyNamedWill (1) - ghug
Diplomacy&Warfare (1) - sweetandcool
sweetandcool (1) - Balki Bartokomous
Vecna (1) - Kakarroto
brainbomb (1) - Vecna
ghug (1) - Diplomacy&Warfare

Currently Rdrivera is set for a one-way trip to Resyk.

47 hours remain in Day Two.

++ DATA ++ STATUS YELLOW ++

+item+
WANTED
Be on the look-out for the Amoeban Vroil, an escapee from the Alien Zoo. The Vroil is a formless semi-intelligent mass of transparent protoplasm. It is believed to be hiding in a warm, dry spot, most likely a ventilation duct, somewhere in this sector.

[JustAGuyNamedWill]

Some people call me Just

I'm not convinced that's all that much better...

Maybe call me A

I prefer Will, although whatever is fine

[kingofthepirates]

Something I was thinking about when you mentioned scanning: it’s possible that some result(s) could be mixed up for whatever reason. Role blocking a cop. I don’t think this has been previously addressed? If so then if someone could link that over it would be great. If not, please discuss. Perhaps another coin flip? Or assuming true/false?