Mafia 87: Madness in Mega-City One - GAME THREAD

[brainbomb]

So you think I am scum, and that my gameplay as scum has been to do 100% inauthentic scumreads, and 100% inauthentic townreads, because I want to just do everything I can to wipe town out of existence.

[brainbomb]

to hold that incredibly moronic and rigid position would make you a detriment to every single team in this game. where you would just buddy or turn on anyone who you decide isnt town, and twist anything and everything they do into them just being evil, and therefore should be disregarded at all moments

[brainbomb]

and may I say, ive been super patient, and super tolerant of it so far. but it feels like you exploiting how I play to your scumteams own benefit. and im not gonna get angry over someone mis repping me relentlessly because youll die. and the game will be better when you arent in it

[brainbomb]

anyway, if you really are town its actually terrible play. like levels beyond terrible in fact

[Kakarroto]

Thank you Kaka.

You mentioned earlier that you think it is less likely now that food is the MMA. Did you mean less than you previously believed, or less than the default state (random)?

Also, having seen Brian's flip, you earlier questioned how brain on Brian garnered so many votes if damo is town and and sweet null. How do you feel about those two individuals yourself?

with how nobody voted food after I went on him, I'm not sure if it's because everyone else townreads him or food is mafia and his team didn't want to vote for him ... although, if he is town, all mafia would know that. Hmm. I guess that is a point for food is town? At least a small point? And no mafia wanted to vote him there?

But back to the original question, I think food has a lower chance of being the machine right now, since we know all who voted for him were town, compared to all other wagons at EoD. Well beside Brian of course.

I would've said food is back to the default state, but maybe, with no one following to vote for food at the time, it's even less since it looks like he was town that no mafia wanted to dirty themselves on by voting him. Thoughts?

I read food as town independent of EoD, and do not see a particular reason to change that. Regardless, it did not appear that your vote on food would gain any particular traction (at least in my interpretation) so I do not particularly subscribe to the idea that nobody jumping on him makes him more towny

Further I am unsure what you mean by all mafia knowing that food is town. Could you clarify?

I think it was Will earlier who voiced what I think is a very reasonable opinion that the angels probably don't even want MMA empowered right now. What do you think about that?

And also I repeat my request for opinions on damo and sweet

well I don't see where you all can be so sure that food is town. Feel pretty null about him.

just a stupid mistake since I don't really see the difference between the two mafia teams, and usually mafia knows who is town because they know who is mafia, but I failed to realize that's not true in this game.

hm, if I were maifa, I would think getting an extra nk sure sounds nice. Maybe it makes it harder to hide, but there are a few different ways to die this game, so I guess it's not as big of an issue as will pointed out. Especially when there are some prominent players who mafia might want to get rid of

did you ask about that? Guess I missed it. Well, sweet feels strange this game. With the behaviour he had when I was talking to him and stuff, he feels ... different. Maybe with him co gming that influenced him? Not sure. And damo, he doesn't feel too off to me. He could be mafia, but I'm not getting the vibe of it. Some of the things could be interpreted as both ways, I guess, but I'm not worried about damo, surprisingly, in this game.

I wanted to have a closer look at the last hour, how the votes progessed and stuff, but I feel pretty tired and groggy, and EoN is close. Should do it tomorrow, or hopefully someone else picks it up if I die tonight. But yeah, definitely looking at the last hour to see, who voted for whom, might give a better picture of who might be on the same team.

[Balki Bartokomous]

In other news, I'm going to Costa Rica tomorrow!

(ND asked me about my personal life, so I figured I'd share)

If I survive, I may be a bit less active, so y'all have nothing to fear.

[sweetandcool]

So you think I am scum, and that my gameplay as scum has been to do 100% inauthentic scumreads, and 100% inauthentic townreads, because I want to just do everything I can to wipe town out of existence.

I've been reading everything you write and thinking about it. I agree that it is remarkable that I've found your analysis to be almost completely backwards from what I think.

It is that remarkability that strengthens my scumread on you. I do not think you are purposefully making "bad" analysis, because it doesn't really make sense to as any alignment, particularly in a 3 faction game where it should be a lot easier to authentically hunt as Mafia.

I'm sorry if I am upsetting you, and I thought I previously made clear that I was not purposefully picking on you, rather I happen to disagree with most of what you have said and done.

And this latest thing with Pirate does feel scum motivated, particularly because I respect your ability to be able to do the same rebuttal that ghug and I almost instantly provided. I think you were pouncing on an opportunity to spread chaos and I think it was clever.

[Kakarroto]

What do you mean by the underlined statement?

I guess I made a mistake. Thinking about it again after you pointed it out, mafia only knows their group, not who town is. That was a mental fart. Welp, sorry. Can scratch the whole thought progress.

This almost screams "please someone say i townslipped"

to be fair, I kinda asked myself 'did I genuinely townslip here' when reading balki pointing it out. Maybe that's the vibe you're picking up here.

[brainbomb]

you arent upsetting me. youre trying to beat me. me exclusively.

[sweetandcool]

anyway, if you really are town its actually terrible play. like levels beyond terrible in fact

[Vecna]

If I’m cop I’m scanning vecna

I appreciate that, less need to tryhard this game

[Kakarroto]

Nah, that townslip is fake

The fact that this game is 3P is literally the most important thing and the thing we’ve talked about the most

If anything, it makes me think that Kak is scum because town would be more observant to what people are doing to try and solve the game

it doesn't matter which of the mafia teams it it, for town, both are bad. And it's not a 3rd party which is solo. That would be quite different. But it being two different mafia groups, it's not as important as you make it point out. Just find all those who are connected to each other, shouldn't be too different.

[Vecna]

you arent upsetting me. youre trying to beat me. me exclusively.

you do seem mad

[ghug]

In other news, I'm going to Costa Rica tomorrow!

(ND asked me about my personal life, so I figured I'd share)

If I survive, I may be a bit less active, so y'all have nothing to fear.

Ooh, have fun!

I'm going to Oregon tomorrow. We will both be relaxing on rainy beaches.

[Vecna]

also, the role pm stuff was indeed fabricated

[Kakarroto]

do you think maf-damo would be that openly jumping on that opportunity that early? Especially since damo should be aware that most high wagons that early would go away?

hmm, there is a possibility though that maf-damo jumped on maf-balki with that knowledge, so he could get an easy bus/unconnection without the risk of dooming his teammate. I think if either of them flips mafia, the other should be highly scrutinized. If damo flips town, balki still has chances to be mafia though. But I don't think that maf-damo would do this to town-balki, at least I wouldn't expect that. So if balki flips town, damo would be most likely town in my opinion.

Kak not considering three teams. Locktown.

@Kakarroto, did you see this earlier post from ghug? Can you speak a bit to how it impacted your understanding of the game, if at all?

I was thinking "hopefully ghug doesn't try to pocket me" and "but he seems to be picking out the right things" so I think it made me lean more on town for ghug

[sweetandcool]

In other news, I'm going to Costa Rica tomorrow!

(ND asked me about my personal life, so I figured I'd share)

If I survive, I may be a bit less active, so y'all have nothing to fear.

Ooh, have fun!

I'm going to Oregon tomorrow. We will both be relaxing on rainy beaches.

Oooo, where in Oregon? Fingers crossed it is somewhere nice like Bandon or Yachats.

[ghug]

In other news, I'm going to Costa Rica tomorrow!

(ND asked me about my personal life, so I figured I'd share)

If I survive, I may be a bit less active, so y'all have nothing to fear.

Ooh, have fun!

I'm going to Oregon tomorrow. We will both be relaxing on rainy beaches.

Oooo, where in Oregon? Fingers crossed it is somewhere nice like Bandon or Yachats.

Manzanita

[Kakarroto]

Mm well food has dropped a spot or two in my rankings

Kak has plummeted because TWO townslips on the SAME thing??

you might be surprised how my brain works

[Vecna]

you do seem scum-fluffy this game kakarot.

And I say that having read like 4 of your posts in total