Mafia 87: Madness in Mega-City One - GAME THREAD

[sweetandcool]

http://mafia.peterlund.se/e/web/msgs?word=vanilla+townie&g=87

Let me help you out: http://mafia.peterlund.se/e/web/msgs?word=vanilla+town&g=87

Also, there is an interaction where it is explained to Pirate what VT means.

If you are Mafia (which I think is true), then you are probably not teammates with Pirate.

[snowy801]

http://mafia.peterlund.se/e/web/msgs?word=vanilla+townie&g=87

Let me help you out: http://mafia.peterlund.se/e/web/msgs?word=vanilla+town&g=87

Also, there is an interaction where it is explained to Pirate what VT means.

If you are Mafia (which I think is true), then you are probably not teammates with Pirate.

I think you've entirely missed the point sweet

[ghug]

I’m at an event rn, so can’t really talk much. Is it around this time that we will be doing the “If I were a cop…” thing? Are we saying if we got true/false now, or only announcing our hypothetical targets?

Oops

[sweetandcool]

http://mafia.peterlund.se/e/web/msgs?word=vanilla+townie&g=87

Let me help you out: http://mafia.peterlund.se/e/web/msgs?word=vanilla+town&g=87

Also, there is an interaction where it is explained to Pirate what VT means.

If you are Mafia (which I think is true), then you are probably not teammates with Pirate.

I think you've entirely missed the point sweet

I have? I don't think it is very shocking that someone would jump from the phrase "Vanilla Town" to "Vanilla Townie", all on their own.

[snowy801]

Damn that was a perfect opportunity to say sweetie and I missed it

[ghug]

Quick question: what is VT?

As for damo vs sweet, I feel like damo is motivated more by lack of participation than actual evidence. I lean towards the sweet wagon because of this, also since sweet is the one who began the accusations against first posters. While I can see the logic, I feel the argument is pretty flimsy overall; there are any number of reasons one could be posting early, such as checking at just the right time (by chance), or noticing the incorrect time. Granted, being in early chat ready to snipe could be a reason, but is certainly not the only one.

Just my thoughts, please discuss.

VT = Vanilla Town

[brainbomb]

sweet is buddying or pocketing anyone I even have a conversation with at this point. even people im just asking a couple questions too.

[brainbomb]

its needling to the point of that it fulfils two things.

A. it dismisses my reads and casts me back to what he can just keep saying is all scum motivated no matter if its actually catching a scum or not

B. white knights the person being targeted so they can see him as a townie willing to be their guardian.

[Vecna]

Reread Focus (Venca)
Nils Holgerson

is the bot bugged or does this game indeed feature balki, snowy and ND?

Did i just enter a timemachine?

Shows up late in day, has done this before as town and as scum. His arrival time is whenever he wants to, and it isnt alignment indicative.

will, will you allow me to pocket you this time around?

you evil bastard

Reference to some history of pocketing will. Not familiar with that past occurrence.

okay, cool

##vote sweetandcool

Doesnt ask much, doesnt do any of his usual catchup and rereads of the events of the day. Looks at the two wagons and chooses sweet here over damo without much concern.

Page 51 he proceeds to argue with the GM about reading his role pm, and refers to some private convo that maybe happened where Jamie threatened to modkill him if he didnt cooperate.

brainbomb is scum

Then asks me to blink if I am on his team.

Now he thinks damo is also scum

damo also feels like happy cockyscum

oh yeah, in case youre town, gimme some scumreads so i can start pretending to form my towncore

This is open wolfing by vecna at this point. Openly admitting hes going to form a fake towncore.

unrealistick my ass. lets kill this whale called slickback

##Vote Balki Bababouschka

Joins the Balki wagon which helps lower the sweet wagon, despite supposedly scumreading both damo and sweet, vecna also wants to make another wagon here.

votes will on P55, then notes will has abnormalities in his reads lists.

claims sweet is chainsawwing me which implies sweet is mafia and I am not.

and then suddenly he stops and acts lucid for a moment

I dont really know who I want to vote for actually.

I could see Damo, but I always suck at reading damo.

I could be persuaded to either kill sweet or let him get a shot in to play more. I like the kid.

Brainbomb feels ok.

Ill try to get in more before eod

damo then tries to kill damo at end of day as counter to hamilton.

basically it looks like Vecna showed up to the game thread drunk on scum crack, and went deep into his mega wolf meta, then suddenly became concerned for Hamiltons life in the last moment.

this is fucking scum

I think the only thing that really pinged me about Vecna is the possibility of him fabricating his PM discussion with Jamiet.

Every game I've played with Vecna they have arrived very late D1. If Vecna truly was just joining the game at that point, then they would be very behind and it's not unnatural they would go through a bit of a abbreviated "joke phase", so there behavior certainly didn't subvert my expectations.

I took their comment about sweet chainsawing brainbomb is pretty clear in meaning. They meant that I was very consistently laying into you because I thought you were scum. It had just been said by Balki I think that I was very unconvicted with my reads and all over the place. Vecna was agreeing with that sentiment.

For something that was apparently pretty clear, youre pretty wrong

[brainbomb]

example I did a case on vecna where I mentioned vecna showing up super late to the game was NAI, and then proceeded to analyze what vecna did once he was here.

And sweet shows up with a vecna defense that says "Ive seen plenty of town vecna games where he just shows up late, he does it every time"+

[ghug]

https://mafia.peterlund.se/e/web/msgs?word=townie&g=87

Language is productive.

[Kakarroto]

What do you mean by the underlined statement?

I guess I made a mistake. Thinking about it again after you pointed it out, mafia only knows their group, not who town is. That was a mental fart. Welp, sorry. Can scratch the whole thought progress.

No problem. Can you try to recreate the thought process. I don't really follow it. Why were you suggesting that your vote on food, and the aftermath, suggested that food was a bit more likely to be town than had that not happened?

well the whole thought is flawed, was just thinking that mafia didn't want to vote food whowas seen as pretty townie. Was thinking since no one else voted for food, mafia just didn't want to get held responsible if food flips town. But yeah, as you pointed out, mafia wouldn't fully know if food is really town or not.

[sweetandcool]

sweet is buddying or pocketing anyone I even have a conversation with at this point. even people im just asking a couple questions too.

I'm just respecting your abilities really.

I think it's really slick you were able to catch that real quick. And I think pointing that out would very quickly cause town to be paranoid of Pirate.

[brainbomb]

sweet is buddying or pocketing anyone I even have a conversation with at this point. even people im just asking a couple questions too.

I'm just respecting your abilities really.

I think it's really slick you were able to catch that real quick. And I think pointing that out would very quickly cause town to be paranoid of Pirate.

What are you implying was the motive for seeing that?

[Vecna]

I guess brainbomb scumreading me must mean everyone will ignore me and ill solo the game for my team

[brainbomb]

https://mafia.peterlund.se/e/web/msgs?word=townie&g=87

Language is productive.

thats good. it makes sense

[sweetandcool]

example I did a case on vecna where I mentioned vecna showing up super late to the game was NAI, and then proceeded to analyze what vecna did once he was here.

And sweet shows up with a vecna defense that says "Ive seen plenty of town vecna games where he just shows up late, he does it every time"+

I don't know why you keep continuously distorting the truth. Of course my point is that it is NAI. I even agreed with one of the points that you implied, that it was possible Vecna was fabricating the GM PM exchange.

I've disagreed with most of what you've said, but I highly doubt my replies have made anyone feel warm and fuzzy inside.

[sweetandcool]

sweet is buddying or pocketing anyone I even have a conversation with at this point. even people im just asking a couple questions too.

I'm just respecting your abilities really.

I think it's really slick you were able to catch that real quick. And I think pointing that out would very quickly cause town to be paranoid of Pirate.

What are you implying was the motive for seeing that?

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[foodcoats]

If I’m cop I’m scanning vecna

[Balki Bartokomous]

I guess I made a mistake. Thinking about it again after you pointed it out, mafia only knows their group, not who town is. That was a mental fart. Welp, sorry. Can scratch the whole thought progress.

No problem. Can you try to recreate the thought process. I don't really follow it. Why were you suggesting that your vote on food, and the aftermath, suggested that food was a bit more likely to be town than had that not happened?

well the whole thought is flawed, was just thinking that mafia didn't want to vote food whowas seen as pretty townie. Was thinking since no one else voted for food, mafia just didn't want to get held responsible if food flips town. But yeah, as you pointed out, mafia wouldn't fully know if food is really town or not.

Still sstrange. Your point was that because nobody jumped on the wagon, food was more likely to be town? Wouldn't mafia have a good reason not to vote for food if food were mafia?