Mafia 87: Madness in Mega-City One - GAME THREAD

[brainbomb]

I may be free today to announce my scan, so Ill wait.

[ghug]

Anyways updated reads list

Town

King
Food
Kak
DrFid
ND
Worcej
Ghug
Chaqa
Snowy
Sweet
Vecna
Dip & War
Rdr
Brainbomb
Damo
Darg
Balki

Scum

I can elaborate on any

ND, darg, damo please.

Anyways ND is null because his posts could come from town or scum, I can’t tell which

Darg is scummy because he doesn’t act like himself, hasn’t commented on my repeated brain comments and just vibes

Damo is slightly scummy but I genuinely cannot fathom why he reached 8 (7?) votes during the day. But something tells me damo was not a popular choice with mafia, or at least one team

So everyone from ND to brain is null?

[ND]

learn 2 read

[JustAGuyNamedWill]

ND, darg, damo please.

Anyways ND is null because his posts could come from town or scum, I can’t tell which

Darg is scummy because he doesn’t act like himself, hasn’t commented on my repeated brain comments and just vibes

Damo is slightly scummy but I genuinely cannot fathom why he reached 8 (7?) votes during the day. But something tells me damo was not a popular choice with mafia, or at least one team

So everyone from ND to brain is null?

Where’d you get that from?

More like ND-Dip

[brainbomb]

Reread Focus (Venca)
Nils Holgerson

is the bot bugged or does this game indeed feature balki, snowy and ND?

Did i just enter a timemachine?

Shows up late in day, has done this before as town and as scum. His arrival time is whenever he wants to, and it isnt alignment indicative.

will, will you allow me to pocket you this time around?

you evil bastard

Reference to some history of pocketing will. Not familiar with that past occurrence.

Hi Vecna,

Solve before EOD please.

Hint: I'm town, sweet is scum.

okay, cool

##vote sweetandcool

Doesnt ask much, doesnt do any of his usual catchup and rereads of the events of the day. Looks at the two wagons and chooses sweet here over damo without much concern.

Page 51 he proceeds to argue with the GM about reading his role pm, and refers to some private convo that maybe happened where Jamie threatened to modkill him if he didnt cooperate.

brainbomb is scum

Then asks me to blink if I am on his team.

Now he thinks damo is also scum

damo also feels like happy cockyscum

Vecna I was waiting up most of the night hoping you would show up and do your rereads and do the usual cherry pick of random posts and give one liners about them all. Its a thing I look forward too every game, hoping youll read me and find gems of greatness. and instead its usually a few lines hard defending all my scumreads and saying I seem totally wack

oh yeah, in case youre town, gimme some scumreads so i can start pretending to form my towncore

This is open wolfing by vecna at this point. Openly admitting hes going to form a fake towncore.

unrealistick my ass. lets kill this whale called slickback

##Vote Balki Bababouschka

Joins the Balki wagon which helps lower the sweet wagon, despite supposedly scumreading both damo and sweet, vecna also wants to make another wagon here.

votes will on P55, then notes will has abnormalities in his reads lists.

claims sweet is chainsawwing me which implies sweet is mafia and I am not.

and then suddenly he stops and acts lucid for a moment

I dont really know who I want to vote for actually.

I could see Damo, but I always suck at reading damo.

I could be persuaded to either kill sweet or let him get a shot in to play more. I like the kid.

Brainbomb feels ok.

Ill try to get in more before eod

damo then tries to kill damo at end of day as counter to hamilton.

basically it looks like Vecna showed up to the game thread drunk on scum crack, and went deep into his mega wolf meta, then suddenly became concerned for Hamiltons life in the last moment.

this is fucking scum

[JustAGuyNamedWill]

A little theory I have is that when Vecna entered the game they didn’t read their PM, then read their PM and dipped because they were mafia

[JustAGuyNamedWill]

Maybe I should say all my rambling theories instead of just looking like I sheep people incredibly hard

[sweetandcool]

@ghug or anyone else

Suppose Chaqa was Mafia. How likely would the rest of the Mafia team be to follow his lead?

Define his lead? Like jumping on his flashwagon? I think that has more to do with who they are than who he is. People are generally disinclined to vote with their teammates. Chaqa himself is somewhat of an exception to that because he likes to subvert expectations, but that doesn't make his teammates more likely to follow necessarily.

Yeah, that's what I had in mind. Thanks.

[Chaqa]

@ghug or anyone else

Suppose Chaqa was Mafia. How likely would the rest of the Mafia team be to follow his lead?

Define his lead? Like jumping on his flashwagon? I think that has more to do with who they are than who he is. People are generally disinclined to vote with their teammates. Chaqa himself is somewhat of an exception to that because he likes to subvert expectations, but that doesn't make his teammates more likely to follow necessarily.

The Game of Thrones writers hired me as a consultant.

[brainbomb]

@ghug or anyone else

Suppose Chaqa was Mafia. How likely would the rest of the Mafia team be to follow his lead?

Define his lead? Like jumping on his flashwagon? I think that has more to do with who they are than who he is. People are generally disinclined to vote with their teammates. Chaqa himself is somewhat of an exception to that because he likes to subvert expectations, but that doesn't make his teammates more likely to follow necessarily.

The Game of Thrones writers hired me as a consultant.

so its gonna be a great story with a really shitty ending

[snowy801]

Define his lead? Like jumping on his flashwagon? I think that has more to do with who they are than who he is. People are generally disinclined to vote with their teammates. Chaqa himself is somewhat of an exception to that because he likes to subvert expectations, but that doesn't make his teammates more likely to follow necessarily.

The Game of Thrones writers hired me as a consultant.

so its gonna be a great story with a really shitty ending

So... Game of Thrones?

[sweetandcool]

Reread Focus (Venca)
Nils Holgerson

is the bot bugged or does this game indeed feature balki, snowy and ND?

Did i just enter a timemachine?

Shows up late in day, has done this before as town and as scum. His arrival time is whenever he wants to, and it isnt alignment indicative.

will, will you allow me to pocket you this time around?

you evil bastard

Reference to some history of pocketing will. Not familiar with that past occurrence.

Hi Vecna,

Solve before EOD please.

Hint: I'm town, sweet is scum.

okay, cool

##vote sweetandcool

Doesnt ask much, doesnt do any of his usual catchup and rereads of the events of the day. Looks at the two wagons and chooses sweet here over damo without much concern.

Page 51 he proceeds to argue with the GM about reading his role pm, and refers to some private convo that maybe happened where Jamie threatened to modkill him if he didnt cooperate.

brainbomb is scum

Then asks me to blink if I am on his team.

Now he thinks damo is also scum

damo also feels like happy cockyscum

Vecna I was waiting up most of the night hoping you would show up and do your rereads and do the usual cherry pick of random posts and give one liners about them all. Its a thing I look forward too every game, hoping youll read me and find gems of greatness. and instead its usually a few lines hard defending all my scumreads and saying I seem totally wack

oh yeah, in case youre town, gimme some scumreads so i can start pretending to form my towncore

This is open wolfing by vecna at this point. Openly admitting hes going to form a fake towncore.

unrealistick my ass. lets kill this whale called slickback

##Vote Balki Bababouschka

Joins the Balki wagon which helps lower the sweet wagon, despite supposedly scumreading both damo and sweet, vecna also wants to make another wagon here.

votes will on P55, then notes will has abnormalities in his reads lists.

claims sweet is chainsawwing me which implies sweet is mafia and I am not.

and then suddenly he stops and acts lucid for a moment

I dont really know who I want to vote for actually.

I could see Damo, but I always suck at reading damo.

I could be persuaded to either kill sweet or let him get a shot in to play more. I like the kid.

Brainbomb feels ok.

Ill try to get in more before eod

damo then tries to kill damo at end of day as counter to hamilton.

basically it looks like Vecna showed up to the game thread drunk on scum crack, and went deep into his mega wolf meta, then suddenly became concerned for Hamiltons life in the last moment.

this is fucking scum

I think the only thing that really pinged me about Vecna is the possibility of him fabricating his PM discussion with Jamiet.

Every game I've played with Vecna they have arrived very late D1. If Vecna truly was just joining the game at that point, then they would be very behind and it's not unnatural they would go through a bit of a abbreviated "joke phase", so there behavior certainly didn't subvert my expectations.

I took their comment about sweet chainsawing brainbomb is pretty clear in meaning. They meant that I was very consistently laying into you because I thought you were scum. It had just been said by Balki I think that I was very unconvicted with my reads and all over the place. Vecna was agreeing with that sentiment.

[ghug]

Anyways ND is null because his posts could come from town or scum, I can’t tell which

Darg is scummy because he doesn’t act like himself, hasn’t commented on my repeated brain comments and just vibes

Damo is slightly scummy but I genuinely cannot fathom why he reached 8 (7?) votes during the day. But something tells me damo was not a popular choice with mafia, or at least one team

So everyone from ND to brain is null?

Where’d you get that from?

More like ND-Dip

Damo was slight scum.

Are people within that group ordered?

If you're going to give reads without explanations, could you put them into buckets so it's easier to understand where the dividing lines?

[sweetandcool]

Anyways ND is null because his posts could come from town or scum, I can’t tell which

Darg is scummy because he doesn’t act like himself, hasn’t commented on my repeated brain comments and just vibes

Damo is slightly scummy but I genuinely cannot fathom why he reached 8 (7?) votes during the day. But something tells me damo was not a popular choice with mafia, or at least one team

I believe either:

1. damo is Mafia and his teammates wanted to save him by voting sweetandcool. The other Mafia team of course was happy to have damo and sweetandcool as wagons and were also happy to flash Town Ham.

2. damo is Town and both Mafia teams were happy as pigs in a blanket, just spoiled for choices for the MK.

Any inklings on who this hypothetical saving teammates could be?

Well, I really subscribe to theory number two. I'll have to think of the implications of the wagons if damo is Mafia.

[ghug]

The Game of Thrones writers hired me as a consultant.

so its gonna be a great story with a really shitty ending

So... Game of Thrones?

thatsthejoke

[snowy801]

so its gonna be a great story with a really shitty ending

So... Game of Thrones?

thatsthejoke

Story's not over yet son

[Chaqa]

So... Game of Thrones?

thatsthejoke

Story's not over yet son

More directly, the writers of GoT would often talk about how they made decisions in order to "subvert expectations"

Classic example of their boneheaded writing:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IIRweNWHC_8

[Balki Bartokomous]

@JustAGuyNamedWill,

It's so hard for me to see myself so consistently at the bottom of a list and not ask questions about it. So here I go.

The things that you've said about me in the thread are very opaque. Stuff like this:

Honestly Balki is pinging me HARD

Balki is suspicious

At this point I should’ve lost my scumread on Balki but it’s sticking.

Dunno why. Somethings off.

Balki is either the best town this game or pretty good scum.

I just think that Balki is scum trying to solve.

You really haven't said much about me except that I am trying to solve the game and that I am likely Scum.

A few questions for you:

1. You seem to be more confident that I am not Town than you are about anything else in the game. What gives you that confidence?

2. You suggested that you think I am "pretty good scum." What does that mean? Do you expect to be able to sort out "pretty good scum" with such confidence on page 4 or 5?

3. I sent you three games to read after you asked me to send you my MU games. Did you read any of them? Did you learn anything that would be useful for this game?

4. You expressed that, if I am Town, I would be quite useful Town. If you believe that, why wouldn't you want to wait a night or two to see if I am killed by the bad guys? If I am possibly an effective Towny, then waiting allows me to help, gives you a chance to have your suspicions confirmed or not by way of a NK, and tells you more about me if I am NOT NKed.
5. Can you explain what about my play has "pinged you HARD"?

6. Do you have any questions for me about my motivations for making any particular post or doing anything in particular?

[Balki Bartokomous]

The Game of Thrones writers hired me as a consultant.

so its gonna be a great story with a really shitty ending

So... Game of Thrones?

Hehehe, meaning a good story in the beginning, but then a weak ending.

[rdrivera2005]

Now I checked the game one hour earlier. Bect at EON hopefully.