Mafia 87: Madness in Mega-City One - GAME THREAD

[Chaqa]

What if we pick a "mayor" who chooses who we kill?

I vote for ghug to be mayor

I don't endorse this strategy because we'll never actually do it and it would be bad even if we did and even if it were me but I do if it's me because I like power.

Parse that, assholes.

I second ghug for mayor

[snowy801]

@snowy how do you typically solve a game? What’s your strategy

Typically I figure out who's scum by end of day 1, but nobody listens to me because I'm an asshole, then I get nk'd and don't have to worry about the rest of the game

[JustAGuyNamedWill]

@snowy how do you typically solve a game? What’s your strategy

Typically I figure out who's scum by end of day 1, but nobody listens to me because I'm an asshole, then I get nk'd and don't have to worry about the rest of the game

Okay so far you’ve voted kotp and DrFidelis. I assume you think both are scum? And do you think they’re paired or what

[Chaqa]

@Chaqa

Haai Darling, it's so lovely to read your profoundly exquisite words again darling! I truly hope that you have a wonnnnderful baby!!!

Thaaaank yoooou sooooo much for telling us alllll about this woooonderful moment now we cann all be a part of this special day just for you baby

Yeah I’m leaving my vote where it is.

[brainbomb]

I think the main drawbacks is not helping scum to identify copa but help Angel gang to identify not cops. They are the only one's that can mess with results so they know if result is true or false or twisted. So they can identify who are not cops.
But considering the Judges will be also in this group not sure if it's enough of a reason to not going with this plan.

I was reminded of this post. and the underlined part made me wonder if this post was made from an angel perspective. Or am I not reading this right?

my interpretation of this post is that rdrivera thinks the angel faction will help town to identify the non cops for town.

[ND]

Meow

I'll ##vote DrFidelis

Him following that wagon seemed sus

[ND]

@Chaqa

Haai Darling, it's so lovely to read your profoundly exquisite words again darling! I truly hope that you have a wonnnnderful baby!!!

Thaaaank yoooou sooooo much for telling us alllll about this woooonderful moment now we cann all be a part of this special day just for you baby

Yeah I’m leaving my vote where it is.

Kk babe

[DiplomacyandWarfare]

In other news Chaqa is scum.

my role PM said I'm the nacho cop

MACHO COP
The Macho Cop may each night investigate a player to learn their alignment (returning INNOCENT or GUILTY. All non-Town return "GUILTY"). The Macho Cop cannot be protected from nightkills in any way. They receive a generic Cop PM.

*Note that the Addictive Cop, Macho Cop, and Naïve Cop all receive a generic Cop PM, which gives their role info as:

COP
The Cop may each night investigate a player to learn their alignment (returning INNOCENT or GUILTY. All non-Town return "GUILTY").

The macho cop does not know that they are the macho cop at the start of D1.
##VOTE CHAQA

[Chaqa]

Is this normal ND behavior or is the uwu exaggerated speak new?

He's normally belligerent and moderately incoherent. Last time he played, he got really mad at everyone for sharing details of their personal lives, so what you're seeing here is a tongue and cheek continuation of that crusade.

How does one kill that which has no life?

[JustAGuyNamedWill]

I think the main drawbacks is not helping scum to identify copa but help Angel gang to identify not cops. They are the only one's that can mess with results so they know if result is true or false or twisted. So they can identify who are not cops.
But considering the Judges will be also in this group not sure if it's enough of a reason to not going with this plan.

I was reminded of this post. and the underlined part made me wonder if this post was made from an angel perspective. Or am I not reading this right?

my interpretation of this post is that rdrivera thinks the angel faction will help town to identify the non cops for town.

I don’t think rdr’s comment comes from an angel perspective.

[ghug]

okay, so can we talk about what everyone really wants to talk about?

I say we shoot in the barrel of lurkers

I say we shoot in the barrel of posters who were active at game start. There weren't very many,candy Mafia would be more likely to be around to post at the beginning. I think a high proportion of them are likely scum.

Are you dropping this or not?

[JustAGuyNamedWill]

In other news Chaqa is scum.

my role PM said I'm the nacho cop

MACHO COP
The Macho Cop may each night investigate a player to learn their alignment (returning INNOCENT or GUILTY. All non-Town return "GUILTY"). The Macho Cop cannot be protected from nightkills in any way. They receive a generic Cop PM.

*Note that the Addictive Cop, Macho Cop, and Naïve Cop all receive a generic Cop PM, which gives their role info as:

COP
The Cop may each night investigate a player to learn their alignment (returning INNOCENT or GUILTY. All non-Town return "GUILTY").

The macho cop does not know that they are the macho cop at the start of D1.
##VOTE CHAQA

He was joking

[DiplomacyandWarfare]

In other news Chaqa is scum.

my role PM said I'm the nacho cop

MACHO COP
The Macho Cop may each night investigate a player to learn their alignment (returning INNOCENT or GUILTY. All non-Town return "GUILTY"). The Macho Cop cannot be protected from nightkills in any way. They receive a generic Cop PM.

*Note that the Addictive Cop, Macho Cop, and Naïve Cop all receive a generic Cop PM, which gives their role info as:

COP
The Cop may each night investigate a player to learn their alignment (returning INNOCENT or GUILTY. All non-Town return "GUILTY").

The macho cop does not know that they are the macho cop at the start of D1.
##VOTE CHAQA

I'm going to bump this. I have direct evidence of Chaqa lying. They are clearly scum.

[snowy801]

@snowy how do you typically solve a game? What’s your strategy

Typically I figure out who's scum by end of day 1, but nobody listens to me because I'm an asshole, then I get nk'd and don't have to worry about the rest of the game

Okay so far you’ve voted kotp and DrFidelis. I assume you think both are scum? And do you think they’re paired or what

I wouldn't say I figured out any scum yet. Besides, it's poor judgment to try to "solve" a game early. It's best to look at all the evidence with an open mind and then come to a solution only after having considered the problem as best as possible
I don't believe in pairings

I suppose to answer more in spirit of your question at some point I determine an individual is scum, and as though writing a high school essay I go over the text and start making post-hoc chain of reasons why this person's actions come from scum

If it doesn't seem ridiculous I'm almost always right

How do I determine that? I don't know it just comes to me. I'm a "throw a lot of dust and it'll reveal the transparent" philosophy believer

[Chaqa]

okay, so can we talk about what everyone really wants to talk about?

Sure!

You start

[Chaqa]

okay, so can we talk about what everyone really wants to talk about?

How Kak hasn't posted yet? It's a crying shame.

He’s been typing his intro post this whole time

[brainbomb]

okay, so can we talk about what everyone really wants to talk about?

Sure!

You start

what kind of nachoz do you liek?

[brainbomb]

waiting for the usual chaqa post where he threatens to sub out and claims hes tired of the same shit being thrown at him every game.

[Chaqa]

I am just going to point out that the ghugcorollary is bad because scanning someone as innocent (ie normal cop) and sharing the "true" result looks the same as, for example, being the psychic cop and reading a Dark Judge.
For reference the ghugcorollary is:
Addictive Cop - INNOCENT=TRUE, GUILTY=FALSE
Macho Cop - INNOCENT=TRUE, GUILTY=FALSE
Naive Cop - INNOCENT=TRUE, GUILTY=FALSE
Methodical Cop - INNOCENT=TRUE, GUILTY=FALSE
Parity Cop - Same=TRUE, different=FALSE, no result=FALSE
Vanilla Cop - Vanilla=TRUE, Not vanilla=FALSE
SJS Cop - Cop=TRUE, Not cop=FALSE
Psychic Cop - Dark=TRUE, not dark=FALSE

Presumably after EoN everyone shares what they hypothetically scanned, with vanilla town... actually we don't know. Maybe they flip a coin, maybe they always report True or always report False.


Here is my version of Balki's plan, with modifications:
Everyone says, before EoN, "If I hypothetically were a cop, I would scan X".
Cops say who they are going to scan. This includes Methodical Cop, unless they know their target can't be Judge Fear (see below), in which case they claim to be scanning someone they would scan if they were a generic cop.
IF docs know their target can't be Judge Fear (ie, we have identified the target as a different role with confirmation, we know who Judge Fear is for certain and it is not the target, Judge Fear is dead, we have confirmed that Judge Fear is not in the game), then the docs say they are targeting the person that they would if they were a cop.
If the target might possibly be Judge Fear, which currently applies to everyone, the docs say they are scanning whoever they are saving.
Town claim they are scanning whoever they would scan if they were a cop
Then, after EoN, everyone reports their results as follows:
"normal" cop, addictive cop, macho cop, naive cop, methodical cop: Whatever (innocent/guilty) you received
SJS: Dark = Guilty, Not Dark = Innocent
Parity Cop: Use your discretion. Lean towards "INNOCENT" unless you are certain of the previous night-target's team. Imply your findings in normal posts.
Vanilla Cop: Use your discretion. Lean towards "Innocent" for Vanilla. If the target claims to be a cop and your scan returned "not vanilla", claim "Guilty".
Doctor: Use your discretion. Lean towards Innocent.
Vanilla Town: Use your discretion. Lean towards Innocent.


It's a lot, but the point is that instead of ambiguous "True/False", we have "Innocent", which indicates the target is probably town, and "Guilty" which indicates the target is probably scum. We would need someone to keep track of the hypothetical scans as well as the hypothetical results.

First really solid post I’ve seen.

He’s probably scum

[Chaqa]

In other news Chaqa is scum.

my role PM said I'm the nacho cop

MACHO COP
The Macho Cop may each night investigate a player to learn their alignment (returning INNOCENT or GUILTY. All non-Town return "GUILTY"). The Macho Cop cannot be protected from nightkills in any way. They receive a generic Cop PM.

*Note that the Addictive Cop, Macho Cop, and Naïve Cop all receive a generic Cop PM, which gives their role info as:

COP
The Cop may each night investigate a player to learn their alignment (returning INNOCENT or GUILTY. All non-Town return "GUILTY").

The macho cop does not know that they are the macho cop at the start of D1.
##VOTE CHAQA

Damn you really dipped my nachos there