Mafia 87: Madness in Mega-City One - GAME THREAD

[DrFidelis]

Balki kinda sus ngl... perhaps he is imposter? Once we eject him, perhaps we may find out? Unless Balki wishes to perform a Visual Task like med scan before the time runs out, I'm afraid I will have to

##VOTE BALKI

What is a “visual task like med scan?”

It's a reference to the 2018 video game that was popularized in 2020, Among Us by Innersloth Games, notable for also being the creators of hit Flash game series The Henry Stickmin Collection

[foodcoats]

Hmmmmm...I forgot that we can talk at night.

Thinking...yes, I think that is a good addition to this plan.

Why are you opposed?

I'm not overly fond of chopping a game into a mechanical grind
I feel like game types like item madness or something like this is best played in chaos, even understanding that one may well argue that it is "unoptimal" to do so

Okay, I can grok that as a general tendency, but can you give some more specific thought to the plan I proposed in this format? My feeling is that the multi-cop set-up here is uniquely suited for this particular plan because we're not really going to be able to use cop reveals very well until the cop flips. So cops are likely going to want to breadcrumb their results so that we have their info to use after they flip. By forcing everyone to provide hypo results, we allow our Cops to put that info in the thread without risk of laying breadcrumbs that can lead back to them. Also, because of all the Cop distortions, the bad guys are not going to be able to use all of the hypo posts to figure out who is a real cop and who is not a real cop.

So, I just think this plan requires more thought than "I don't like doing stuff with mechanics." I am not proposing that we use the hypo scan plan as the sole way of playing the game. We need to talk to each other and sort wolves from town. Adding a hypo scan is not a substitute for playing the game, it's just a useful way of ensuring the cop information is here in the thread for us when it becomes more useful.

I’m pretty sure the plan Balki describes is town-optimal and therefore I shall subscribe to it.

[foodcoats]

I'll tell you all a fun story.

I thought the game started an hour later than it actually did. I was confused, I could have sworn it started 3 PST. So I go back and see that when the startime was listed, it correctly gave the time if you are British. But the time for the East Coast and West coast incorrectly indicated the start time (due to daylight savings, I assume).

I assume most people would look at it and if they were in the western hemisphere they would use the incorrect time and be late to the game. However, people in prechat would definitely be ready to post at game start.

Consequently, any players from the West hemisphere who were posting at game start are incredibly suspicious.

Particularly, brainbomb.

##VOTE brainbomb

Interesting theory. I also thought it began at “6 my time” and had to look up “BST” after I saw Jamie’s preliminary posts claiming the game started sooner than I expected.

[DiplomacyandWarfare]

*hops on wD about 3-4 hours of game time have passed*
*sees 11 pages of stuff*
*facepalms*

[foodcoats]

Out of game conversation...

@Balki, how do you like MU? I've only played mafia here at webdip so I am interested in the differences you've noticed.

I haven't played there much beyond Champs. Maybe one other game?

I really enjoyed playing in Champs and I think there are some strong players on MU. I think it is worthwhile for someone who wants a bit more variety in the players to go over there and give it a whirl.

Okay but who is your waifu avatar?

[foodcoats]

The criteria for not appearing to be either mafia team in my mind are

Sound logic
Active engagement
Sincere desire to catch mafia and to catch teams
The desire to find association

Based on that will is alot like last game, and sweet is town being willing to explore an oddity he thinks would catch scum

I think scum can fake all those things. How do you propose to pierce the veil?

[foodcoats]

Interesting that your townread of darg is that strong youd think he would be giving a realistic read.

i knew I had darg as town, why do you?

Oh na I just think how he responds if he truly knows your tell gives a lot of info

If he says yes, and you flip town, hes 100% mafia
If he’s right and says yes, many things could be going on
If he says no and you flip mafia, he’s either wrong (which we assume is not true), or he’s mafia and doesn’t want to risk saying yes/your teammate
If he says no and he’s right, then many things could happen

Mmyes, mmyes, quite.

[foodcoats]

Hi food

Greetings Will!

[foodcoats]

Balki kinda sus ngl... perhaps he is imposter? Once we eject him, perhaps we may find out? Unless Balki wishes to perform a Visual Task like med scan before the time runs out, I'm afraid I will have to

##VOTE BALKI

What is a “visual task like med scan?”

It's a reference to the 2018 video game that was popularized in 2020, Among Us by Innersloth Games, notable for also being the creators of hit Flash game series The Henry Stickmin Collection

Ahhhh thank you!

[foodcoats]

*hops on wD about 3-4 hours of game time have passed*
*sees 11 pages of stuff*
*facepalms*

Lol get rekt

[JustAGuyNamedWill]

Balki kinda sus ngl... perhaps he is imposter? Once we eject him, perhaps we may find out? Unless Balki wishes to perform a Visual Task like med scan before the time runs out, I'm afraid I will have to

##VOTE BALKI

What is a “visual task like med scan?”

Gatekeep this one lmao

[JustAGuyNamedWill]

Okay anyways Balki can you give me a quick rundown of how you solve

I think you owe him an answer to his question first.

Even if the answer is very obvious, he wouldn't know until you tell him.

Kotp and drfidelis are new, they have never played before this game in any capacity

[foodcoats]

I think sweet and brain are town.

… that’s all I got.

[JustAGuyNamedWill]

Mm food can be town for now

[sweetandcool]

Balki kinda sus ngl... perhaps he is imposter? Once we eject him, perhaps we may find out? Unless Balki wishes to perform a Visual Task like med scan before the time runs out, I'm afraid I will have to

##VOTE BALKI

What is a “visual task like med scan?”

It's a reference to the 2018 video game that was popularized in 2020, Among Us by Innersloth Games, notable for also being the creators of hit Flash game series The Henry Stickmin Collection

Are you claiming Doctor role, "Dr"Fidelis? Very suspicious.

[JustAGuyNamedWill]

I guess we need a CopFidelis to figure this out

[JustAGuyNamedWill]

So DrFidelis

Which players do you feel are mafia-like at the moment

[brainbomb]

His vote on me was on page 1 and was clearly just for funsies. Why do you have to wrestle with that?

I just explained what happened last game. He voted someone last game and I didnt like the vote and I asked him why he did it and he told
Me he votes his first vote for someone he respects. And I felt that was an easy way to just make scummy anchor votes.

Now having seen he was town engaging in that behavior I can choose to accept this is just what he does or I have to wonder if its NAI. And if its just an NAI thing its still something he could do out of nefarious motives

Ah, okay.

Well, let me help you: it's totally and completely NAI. Spend no time thinking about that particular thing. Plenty of other stuff to think about.

How can you know with such certainty that scum ghug would not start off voting you to be playful?

[brainbomb]

@brainbomb, are you saying here that you believe Darg is Town? Can you elaborate on that please?

Strong gutread based on how I know him. How he participates in dialogue as town - the manner in which he engages is different as mafia and tends to be less about working through any progression of thought - more geared at just posts to make posts

What are the things Darg has said that make you feel most confident in this read?

How has your accuracy been in the past in reading Darg based on the first few pages of a game?

I think I have a pretty good history of accurately reading darg. He and I are friends in real life. We have actually gone to breakfast together; we play other games together as well. Hes a good dude and when hes mafia I usually can find him. When im mafia he usually finds me

[foodcoats]

On further thought I also think d&w might be townie and Kennit is a bit suspicious.