Cultafia Game Thread

[Squigs44]

Are you both accusing him of omnipotence?

No, we're accusing him of pursuing a strategy that has no benefit as town, but may be beneficial as scum.

I would argue that this strategy has no negative impact if I'm VT, since I'm playing as if I'm VT. And it's a risk if I'm scum. It would help me look more natural at the cost of scumhunting a whole day without knowing my partner. This could put me in a real bad place if I find out in scum with Bozo.

[brainbomb]

Are you both accusing him of omnipotence?

No, we're accusing him of pursuing a strategy that has no benefit as town, but may be beneficial as scum.

Yea but the strategy itself doesnt help him know if hes town either. It may benefit him if hes scum but how would he be aware of it.

[brainbomb]

Are you both accusing him of omnipotence?

No, we're accusing him of pursuing a strategy that has no benefit as town, but may be beneficial as scum.

I would argue that this strategy has no negative impact if I'm VT, since I'm playing as if I'm VT. And it's a risk if I'm scum. It would help me look more natural at the cost of scumhunting a whole day without knowing my partner. This could put me in a real bad place if I find out in scum with Bozo.

Or mason with bozo..m

[brainbomb]

The fact squiggs has no read on me tells me hes scum. So I dont really buy him saying he didnt read it.

[Jamiet99uk]

So you are voting me on strategy, not alignment. Lol.

You admit you could be scum, right? You can't rule it out, can you?

I've read me role PM and I know I'm not scum.

You can't say the same about yourself.

I have the same chance of being scum as anyone else.

That is incorrect. There are a bunch of other players who have read their Role PM and know they are town. Those people know there is 0% chance that they are scum. Most of them will currently be trying, with varying degrees of skill, to work out who the scum are.

You, Squigs, on the other hand, cannot honestly and sincerely scumhunt, because as far as you know, you might be hunting for yourself. You literally cannot scumhunt properly if you don't know you're not scum yourself.

[Squigs44]

Nephthys is giving me better vibes now, he is one of the few people providing actual reasons for what he is saying.

ChippeRock OMGUSd me, so there's that.

Damo is still not doing anything.

Worcej is distrusting of me as usual.

Yav continues to make no sense at all.



Scum:
Bozo
ChippeRock
Yav

Town:
DrCJG
Nephthys

Holy shit im not even listed?
##Vote squiggs

Ya fuck that

I listed people I have stronger reads on. I don't know where to put you, since you play irregularly. I think you are valuable enough to keep around past D1. I need to see your scum meta. I'll go read one of your scum games and get back to you.

[brainbomb]

Jamie is right- chaqa did this several games back and got blasted up the ass for it

[Squigs44]

You admit you could be scum, right? You can't rule it out, can you?

I've read me role PM and I know I'm not scum.

You can't say the same about yourself.

I have the same chance of being scum as anyone else.

That is incorrect. There are a bunch of other players who have read their Role PM and know they are town. Those people know there is 0% chance that they are scum. Most of them will currently be trying, with varying degrees of skill, to work out who the scum are.

You, Squigs, on the other hand, cannot honestly and sincerely scumhunt, because as far as you know, you might be hunting for yourself. You literally cannot scumhunt properly if you don't know you're not scum yourself.

I'm assuming I'm town. If I'm right, I can scumhunt just as effectively as if I read my PM and knew I was town. If I'm wrong and I'm scum... well at that point I wouldn't care. Yes, I very well could be scum. But your quick vote on me is interesting, since you both buy my claim and vote for me based on strategy rather than alignment.

[Squigs44]

Well, the game is a little less dull... You're welcome.

[Jamiet99uk]

I have the same chance of being scum as anyone else.

That is incorrect. There are a bunch of other players who have read their Role PM and know they are town. Those people know there is 0% chance that they are scum. Most of them will currently be trying, with varying degrees of skill, to work out who the scum are.

You, Squigs, on the other hand, cannot honestly and sincerely scumhunt, because as far as you know, you might be hunting for yourself. You literally cannot scumhunt properly if you don't know you're not scum yourself.

I'm assuming I'm town. If I'm right, I can scumhunt just as effectively as if I read my PM and knew I was town. If I'm wrong and I'm scum... well at that point I wouldn't care. Yes, I very well could be scum. But your quick vote on me is interesting, since you both buy my claim and vote for me based on strategy rather than alignment.

Why guess? Why deprive yourself of information? If you are town, then what is the benefit, to you or to town, of your strategy? Please tell me.

[brainbomb]

##Vote chaqa

[Squigs44]

That is incorrect. There are a bunch of other players who have read their Role PM and know they are town. Those people know there is 0% chance that they are scum. Most of them will currently be trying, with varying degrees of skill, to work out who the scum are.

You, Squigs, on the other hand, cannot honestly and sincerely scumhunt, because as far as you know, you might be hunting for yourself. You literally cannot scumhunt properly if you don't know you're not scum yourself.

I'm assuming I'm town. If I'm right, I can scumhunt just as effectively as if I read my PM and knew I was town. If I'm wrong and I'm scum... well at that point I wouldn't care. Yes, I very well could be scum. But your quick vote on me is interesting, since you both buy my claim and vote for me based on strategy rather than alignment.

Why guess? Why deprive yourself of information? If you are town, then what is the benefit, to you or to town, of your strategy? Please tell me.

I've admitted already that this strategy wouldn't benefit me as town. I've also argued that it wouldn't hurt me as town.

But I think revealing this strategy has been beneficial. Your reaction looks very townie. Scum Jamie wouldn't act how you have been acting. Bozo on the other hand... He made one vote post mirroring Jamie's, and then left. I think he wanted my wagon to take off without pushing it himself, since he knew the logic behind his vote was bad.

[Jamiet99uk]

Oh, the old "everything dumb is a reaction test" trope. Okay. Tired.

[Squigs44]

Oh, the old "everything dumb is a reaction test" trope. Okay. Tired.

I didn't do it as a reaction test. I really haven't read my role PM. But the reactions that came from it are helpful.

[brainbomb]

Okay ##Vote yavuz

[brainbomb]

Squiggs I feel you should be required to read your pm. Its a requirement on most sites. What youre doing is illegal on mu its called angleshooting. Its banned because it allows the player to game outside the parameters of a clearly defined ruleset.

I dont think what youre doing is appropriate and ive pusjed for that kinda stuff to be banned in our current rulebook. Angleshooting makes it impossible to play to wincon or for others to play with you fairly.

[brainbomb]

Before you can even play in a game on mu you have to click a link certifying youve read youre role pm.

[brainbomb]

##call GM please inform squiggs that he must read his role or he will be banmed from M40

[Jamiet99uk]

I actually agree with Brainbomb about this.

[brainbomb]

See if I were being serious.. threatening to ban you from the next game -I do have that right- id be using unclear undefimed rules to manipulate you.

Do you understand angleshooting now?

If you can play without reading role pms- i can ban you from a future game. Ect.

Read yer pm and stfu