M1028: Consensus Mini-Mafia

[sweetandcool]

For whoever ends up being the GM, please remember I am here to help as Co-GM.

[dargorygel]

For whoever ends up being the GM, please remember I am here to help as Co-GM.

Thanks, sweet

[foodcoats]

For whoever ends up being the GM, please remember I am here to help as Co-GM.

Thanks, sweet

With such a fine co-GM, how could I say no? Put me in, coach. Do I need any qualifications other than being a doctor?

We'd have to start this Wednesday or next Monday, as I won't be around at EOD this Thursday. I'd also need some help from the august members of this society to set up and use the various tools.

Is the kosher thing to use Chaqa's setup to keep it rolling, or to pick a new one and save his setup for when he can GM? I am game for either.

[Chaqa]

For whoever ends up being the GM, please remember I am here to help as Co-GM.

Thanks, sweet

With such a fine co-GM, how could I say no? Put me in, coach. Do I need any qualifications other than being a doctor?

We'd have to start this Wednesday or next Monday, as I won't be around at EOD this Thursday. I'd also need some help from the august members of this society to set up and use the various tools.

Is the kosher thing to use Chaqa's setup to keep it rolling, or to pick a new one and save his setup for when he can GM? I am game for either.

I wouldn’t mind if you use my setup

[foodcoats]

Thanks, sweet

With such a fine co-GM, how could I say no? Put me in, coach. Do I need any qualifications other than being a doctor?

We'd have to start this Wednesday or next Monday, as I won't be around at EOD this Thursday. I'd also need some help from the august members of this society to set up and use the various tools.

Is the kosher thing to use Chaqa's setup to keep it rolling, or to pick a new one and save his setup for when he can GM? I am game for either.

I wouldn’t mind if you use my setup

Cool, I think that makes this a bit easier.

I don’t really know what step comes next, but I’ll message darg and sweet.

[JustAGuyNamedWill]

For whoever ends up being the GM, please remember I am here to help as Co-GM.

Thanks, sweet

With such a fine co-GM, how could I say no? Put me in, coach. Do I need any qualifications other than being a doctor?

We'd have to start this Wednesday or next Monday, as I won't be around at EOD this Thursday. I'd also need some help from the august members of this society to set up and use the various tools.

Is the kosher thing to use Chaqa's setup to keep it rolling, or to pick a new one and save his setup for when he can GM? I am game for either.

Thanks food.

[DemonRHK]

food saved y'all from getting me.

Some of you would have LOVED that.

[JustAGuyNamedWill]

Hi Demon. Long time no see

[foodcoats]

food saved y'all from getting me.

Some of you would have LOVED that.

Join as a player, save no one!

[foodcoats]

Alright, we’ll start this Wednesday, May 6th, at 6 p.m. EST.

I’ll leave sign ups open until Wednesday morning.

[brainbomb]

But…

i dont know what to do with those tossed salads and scrambled eggs

[dargorygel]

They're calling again

[foodcoats]

Scrambled eggs all over my face…

[dargorygel]

I'm about to build the bot... any more joiners can still do so, I will wait to push 'start' till tomorrow. But the bot MIGHT NOT start just when the game does. Busy day tomorrow!

[foodcoats]

I'm about to build the bot... any more joiners can still do so, I will wait to push 'start' till tomorrow. But the bot MIGHT NOT start just when the game does. Busy day tomorrow!

Thanks darg.

A note for everyone, we will be using the standard 48/24 day/night cycles.

For the sake of rules clarity, here is my interpretation and extension of Chaqa’s rules for Consensus Mafia. This will be in the game thread but I wanted to post it in advance in case there are questions or if Chaqa wants to weigh in.

-Every night, any member of town MAY submit a “PR Action Vote” designating “PR should target PLAYER” (e.g. "Cop should target foodcoats"). (This vote is optional.)

-PRs can “self-vote” for their own action.

-The PRs will target the player with the majority of the votes.

-If there are no votes for one of the PR’s actions, that PR will NOT act.

-If there is a tie for the PR’s action target, the tie will be broken by 1) the PR’s self-vote or 2) randomly among the tied targets.

-The Cop will receive a result of “You investigated PLAYER. They are ALIGNMENT.”

-The Doctor will receive a result of “You visited PLAYER. You SUCCEEDED/FAILED to save them.”

-A player who was saved by the doctor will receive the message “You were saved by the Doctor.”

-Each night, the Mafia team MAY choose to change the TARGET of ONE town player's PR Action Vote, but NOT the choice of cop vs. doc (e.g., "change sweetandcool's target to foodcoats”).

-Each night, the Mafia team MAY guess the target of the cop scan OR the target of the doc save. If the Mafia team guesses correctly, the result of the cop scan will be inverted (e.g., if foodcoats is town and is scanned by the cop, the cop would receive a result of "You investigated foodcoats. They are MAFIA."), or the doctor protection would be canceled (e.g. the doctor would receive a "You visited sweetandcool. You FAILED to save them" and sweetandcool would not be protected from the nightkill).

-The mafia will NOT learn from the GM if they guessed the PR target correctly.

[ghug]

I think scum should get a vote too.

[ghug]

I think scum should get a vote too.

As in, instead of the redirect, to complicate solving the alignment indication of the vote, just make it not alignment-indicative at all. Town still has a lot of PRs, so I don't think it makes anything too mafia-sided, and it removes the part of the game where people try to solve mechanically.

Note that there is no formal review for minis, so I'm speaking as a player, not a member of the Kouncil.

[JustAGuyNamedWill]

I think scum should get a vote too.

I agree. If not, every townie could not submit a vote, the cop will, basically making whoever the cop wants the choice. Even if the mafia manipulate one vote, the cop’s vote wins.

[foodcoats]

I think scum should get a vote too.

As in, instead of the redirect, to complicate solving the alignment indication of the vote, just make it not alignment-indicative at all. Town still has a lot of PRs, so I don't think it makes anything too mafia-sided, and it removes the part of the game where people try to solve mechanically.

Note that there is no formal review for minis, so I'm speaking as a player, not a member of the Kouncil.

I'm not sure how there's a town mechanical solve in the current setup. Can you give an example?

[Chaqa]

I'm about to build the bot... any more joiners can still do so, I will wait to push 'start' till tomorrow. But the bot MIGHT NOT start just when the game does. Busy day tomorrow!

Thanks darg.

A note for everyone, we will be using the standard 48/24 day/night cycles.

For the sake of rules clarity, here is my interpretation and extension of Chaqa’s rules for Consensus Mafia. This will be in the game thread but I wanted to post it in advance in case there are questions or if Chaqa wants to weigh in.

-Every night, any member of town MAY submit a “PR Action Vote” designating “PR should target PLAYER” (e.g. "Cop should target foodcoats"). (This vote is optional.)

- These were absolutely intended to be required, not optional.

-PRs can “self-vote” for their own action.

-The PRs will target the player with the majority of the votes.

-If there are no votes for one of the PR’s actions, that PR will NOT act.

-If there is a tie for the PR’s action target, the tie will be broken by 1) the PR’s self-vote or 2) randomly among the tied targets.

- This is fine.

-The Cop will receive a result of “You investigated PLAYER. They are ALIGNMENT.”

-The Doctor will receive a result of “You visited PLAYER. You SUCCEEDED/FAILED to save them.”

- I think I would say "They did not require your attention" or "They did require your attention" with the latter being only if a kill is prevented

-A player who was saved by the doctor will receive the message “You were saved by the Doctor.”

-Each night, the Mafia team MAY choose to change the TARGET of ONE town player's PR Action Vote, but NOT the choice of cop vs. doc (e.g., "change sweetandcool's target to foodcoats”).

-Each night, the Mafia team MAY guess the target of the cop scan OR the target of the doc save. If the Mafia team guesses correctly, the result of the cop scan will be inverted (e.g., if foodcoats is town and is scanned by the cop, the cop would receive a result of "You investigated foodcoats. They are MAFIA."), or the doctor protection would be canceled (e.g. the doctor would receive a "You visited sweetandcool. You FAILED to save them" and sweetandcool would not be protected from the nightkill).

-The mafia will NOT learn from the GM if they guessed the PR target correctly.

I left a few notes.