Mafia 86: Accidents Happen... - Game Thread

[ghug]

Which ones?

The non- game related ones

Yeah I can get behind that

I know we've clashed and I'm sorry your team totally shit the bed, but you should stick around.

[damo666]

If it's not ghug Chaqa or Food I think town probably lose.

[JustAGuyNamedWill]

If it's not ghug Chaqa or Food I think town probably lose.

I guess. At that point we have to start back at square one.

But I think its in that group.

Buuuuuut I thought it was brain.

So Idk

[ghug]

If it's not ghug Chaqa or Food I think town probably lose.

You're weaponizing your bias to ignore yourself and frog

[JustAGuyNamedWill]

If it's not ghug Chaqa or Food I think town probably lose.

You're weaponizing your bias to ignore yourself and frog

Could it be scum damo trying to create apathy to win once those three die?

[damo666]

If it's not ghug Chaqa or Food I think town probably lose.

You're weaponizing your bias to ignore yourself and frog

What about Will and Bunny?

[damo666]

If it's not ghug Chaqa or Food I think town probably lose.

You're weaponizing your bias to ignore yourself and frog

Could it be scum damo trying to create apathy to win once those three die?

Look at D1 voting. I'm the least likely busser.

[foodcoats]

If it's not ghug Chaqa or Food I think town probably lose.

We will always have a chance at the final 2v1. But we should certainly be considering the arguments made against Frog, Will and Bunny. There is probably strategic value to looking at them more closely before we get down to the finale.

[foodcoats]

I’m trying to remind myself that scum will do crazy bananas stuff but it is hard not to get biased because I am a conservative scummer.

[Chaqa]

I’m trying to remind myself that scum will do crazy bananas stuff but it is hard not to get biased because I am a conservative scummer.

Bigly

[foodcoats]

Reading frog’s D2 just makes me townread him more and I think he is on to something with ghug.

[Chaqa]

Yeah I do not think Frog should be in the PoE either.

This is roughly where I'm at (Town to Scum):
dargorygel
bozotheclown
Chaqa
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BunnyGo
JustAGuyNamedWill
Frogsterking
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damo666
foodcoats
ghug

[Chaqa]

I think a reasonable game plan to win the game is (assuming no saves or scans):

Day 4: kill ghug/food/Chaqa
Night 4: lose Dargo or Bozo
Day 5: kill ghug/food/Chaqa
Night 5: lose Dargo or Bozo
Day 6: ghug/food/Chaqa

That puts is going into Night 7 with the group:
Bunny
Will
Frog
Damo

Mafia will have to kill one of these, and then it comes down to a 2v1.

A doctor reveal from the "out-group" or a doc save make this pretty solid too

[foodcoats]

I think a reasonable game plan to win the game is (assuming no saves or scans):

Day 4: kill ghug/food/Chaqa
Night 4: lose Dargo or Bozo
Day 5: kill ghug/food/Chaqa
Night 5: lose Dargo or Bozo
Day 6: ghug/food/Chaqa

That puts is going into Night 7 with the group:
Bunny
Will
Frog
Damo

Mafia will have to kill one of these, and then it comes down to a 2v1.

A doctor reveal from the "out-group" or a doc save make this pretty solid too

You have damo as one of your top scumreads so why doesn’t he factor in here?

[bozotheclown]

I'm pretty much in the same boat Food is. I think it's Bozo. If it isn't Bozo, I need to re-evaluate a lot of things, so I want to go ahead and resolve that before worrying about anything else that's going on here.

If I had to pick a second candidate, it would be Dargo.

That is not what foodcoats said. foodcoats basically town read me but wants to DK me anyway.

I do have bozo as my most likely 3rd scum. I merely wanted to indicate, because I am pushing hard to DK bozo, that I already feel bad if I am wrong, and I recognize I am not the greatest scum hunter.

I think second most likely for me is indeed Chaqa at this time, but there are some other things going on. I feel like brain is trying to hard-distance from the bozo wagon for example, and if bozo flips town I'd actually be very suspicious of brain. Darg has also been interested in distancing from the wagon but there is something to the way darg has done it that pings me less. There are also ways I can see ghug or Bunny being scum, too.

But, at the moment, there are a lot of reasons why I don't think Bunny, brain, darg, or ghug is most likely to be scum, and bozo is just a few notches ahead of Chaqa in terms of my own reads, and also the impassioned way that Vecna indicted bozo has stuck with me.

damo, Frog, and Will are all very unlikely to be scum in my books.

I think that is where my head is at.

From this I thought foodcoats suspected dargorygel was the cop and had scanned me, and was trying to set up brainbomb for a mis-kill, but I am not sure why he would point out dargorygel defending me if he had RBed dargorygel. Then foodcoats contradicted this post by voting for Frogsterking, and voting for brainbomb over Chaqa at EOD, but foodcoats might have been more likely to stick to his plan as mafia.

[bozotheclown]

I think a reasonable game plan to win the game is (assuming no saves or scans):

Day 4: kill ghug/food/Chaqa
Night 4: lose Dargo or Bozo
Day 5: kill ghug/food/Chaqa
Night 5: lose Dargo or Bozo
Day 6: ghug/food/Chaqa

That puts is going into Night 7 with the group:
Bunny
Will
Frog
Damo

Mafia will have to kill one of these, and then it comes down to a 2v1.

A doctor reveal from the "out-group" or a doc save make this pretty solid too

This does not account for the D3 NK, so we only have 2 mis-kills and 1 no-kill left unless there is a doctor save.

[bozotheclown]

I think ghug's D3 looks scum indicative the way he continued to push for a Frogsterking DK and do nothing else except town read everyone else, essentially pocketing everyone.

[bozotheclown]

I think a reasonable game plan to win the game is (assuming no saves or scans):

Day 4: kill ghug/food/Chaqa
Night 4: lose Dargo or Bozo
Day 5: kill ghug/food/Chaqa
Night 5: lose Dargo or Bozo
Day 6: ghug/food/Chaqa

That puts is going into Night 7 with the group:
Bunny
Will
Frog
Damo

Mafia will have to kill one of these, and then it comes down to a 2v1.

A doctor reveal from the "out-group" or a doc save make this pretty solid too

This does not account for the D3 NK, so we only have 2 mis-kills and 1 no-kill left unless there is a doctor save.

This would be a reasonably good fake town slip, though.

[bozotheclown]

I also don't like the way ghug waited for the wagons to be decided D3 before finally moving his vote to me. ghug never even gave any reason for suspecting I was mafia, just like he did not give any reason for voting for me D2.

[bozotheclown]

##VOTE bozo

It seems to me that ghug was fake fake-claiming. Does that make a difference to you? Innuendo is not fake claiming. I also still don't see that he was faking a claim on YOU, until you responded to him. He implied (maybe) your guilt because you pushed back on him. That is how I read the sequence of events.

Ghug said he had a guilty scan and then voted for me. Bozo also jumped on that wagon. Since I know my alignment and ghug cannot possibly have a guilty scan on me, I fought back.

I am curious to hear from bozo.

ghug started my wagon for unexplained reasons D2 during a time when I was away, which resulted in me returning to a 5 vote wagon, which ghug did not give up on until I was down to only 2 votes, despite never explaining why I might be mafia. My vote for foodcoats was a poor excuse to vote for me since
ghug had voted for foodcoats first.

It looks like ghug was looking to start alternate wagons to Hamilton D2.