Mafia 86: Accidents Happen... - Game Thread

[JustAGuyNamedWill]

@froggy

didn't you have a long post prepped of bozo's scum argument?

How'd you put and post chaqa so quickly? Where's the bozo post?

I couldn't make myself write it. I made an outline of the post and I found some images for the different sections but my heart wasn't in it.

Yeah, it got subbed out for darg.

[Frogsterking]

Instead of all this PR talk I demand all good-intentioned town give me your favourite opener for each country in classic gunboat. Extra townie points if you explain why.

England:
F Lon -> English Channel
F Edi -> North Sea
A Yor -> Yor

Reasoning: anti-France opening is statistically optimal

France:
F Bre -> English Channel
A Par -> Gascony
A Mar -> Burgundy

Reasoning: If Germany tries to move to Burgundy, it's miles better to have the Marseilles army bounce as it can help cover anti-French Italian moves. Also keeps the Paris army from being in a bad position in the Fall. Naval move helps prevent English aggression and maybe lets you nab London or Belgium

Germany:
F Kie-> Denmark (then bounce Sweden)
A Ber -> Kiel
A Munich -> Ruhr

Reasoning: It works

Austria:
F Tri->Albania
A Vie->Galicia
A Bud->Ser

Reasoning: I'm of the opinion that if Italy will attack you, there isn't any hope in a Gunboat game, so I may as well play to win and not play to lose.

Italy:
F Nap -> Ion
A Rom -> Apu
A Ven -> Pie

Reasoning: Go go Lepanto

Turkey:
F Ank -> Black Sea
A Con -> Bul
A Smy -> Arm

Reasoning: Juggernaut is a trap and the Black Sea is the key to everything

Russia:
A War->Gal
A Mos-> Ukr
F Sev -> Black Sea
F StP -> Gulf of Bothnia

Reasoning: sometimes it works but probably just doesn't

Pocketing foodcoats

[Frogsterking]

@froggy

didn't you have a long post prepped of bozo's scum argument?

How'd you put and post chaqa so quickly? Where's the bozo post?

I couldn't make myself write it. I made an outline of the post and I found some images for the different sections but my heart wasn't in it.

Yeah, it got subbed out for darg.

Darg made a great choice outting when they did IMO

[Frogsterking]

@chaqa

How do you feel about answering some questions?

[JustAGuyNamedWill]

@chaqa

How do you feel about answering some questions?

Detective Frog is on the case

[damo666]

@brain as Will sussed ICOP wouldn't he have killed darg instead of Vecna?

[Frogsterking]

##chaqa

[Frogsterking]

##vote chaqa

[JustAGuyNamedWill]

@brain as Will sussed ICOP wouldn't he have killed darg instead of Vecna?

I first suspected darg was cop N1. Heart not placing a vote on D1, whereas a VT with little time would just place a throwaway vote, was my first hint.

[Frogsterking]

It's been a long night. We were down at the ER for a bit. All is well with the baby - he was doing a dance on the ultrasound lol

I came home to a overtime Super Bowl. Exciting

Scum tell

[foodcoats]

Damn. I really wish I had more time to think this through, but good call darg.

##UNVOTE

I kind of want to vote for Will with brain because I’ve been reminded of my awful ability to detect scum.

[Frogsterking]

If only you had chipotle there.

There are some branches of Chipotle in the UK now.

There was one near my hotel in London last week. But I went for pasta instead.

I haven't actually been to Chipotle in awhile. I just checked my app, and I was last there on January 3, and that's the only time I've gone since Christmas. We've been trying to save money for when the baby comes, but I do have some gift cards, so I think I know where I'm going for lunch.

Scum tell

[Frogsterking]

To the GT:

I’m enjoying Just’s engagement. I’d need to go back and reread to see if he’s SAID anything of consequence besides prodding and enthusiasm. I think he has. But not one word has stuck.

In other thoughts:

Ghug is wrong that I try to neg and needle him as scum. I try that when I can’t tell his alignment too. The game that recently comes to mind is when he was scum and sadly my strongest townread until late. But late in the game I started nudging him.


Jamie seems very town here. Might be my strongest townlean for now. He’s not angry, but also not scared or fronting.


Food has been all over in my mind.

HamB has been absent. This is weird. I expect when he finally rolls town, he’ll be so excited to play. Might worry he gets miskilled early? Does he lurk to avoid that? I’d expect him to jump in head first.


Froggy…I dunno. Never had to read him much last game since I got got early. He certainly seems more cautious. Maybe he knew last game would become mechanics?

Chaqa seems towny to me. But that’s based on knowing he enjoys scum and honestly believing he’s not having fun.

Sweet…hmm…why the hell is he voting me? I really don’t get it. That’s not necessarily scummy, but I haven’t understood his ramblings about it either.

And heart. Wherefor heart? Him standing up to froggy seems towny? I don’t think he’s easy to push around, but I think he’d be more likely to acquiesce to a request for reads rather than say “no”. Hmmm. Unless they’re both scum? That’s interesting….


Froggy-heart-lurker-and ghug? That’s a reasonable team guess? Will have to go read with that in mind later.

Ghug- I can’t say whether or not Bunny is doing this, but personally I haven’t noticed it.

Jamie- I am null on Jamie. I don’t understand why Bunny thinks he is so town. He has markedly less participation than two games ago (I didn’t pay attention to last game cuz I got murked), but that may be because no one has argued with him

Food- I think food is town. He seems to be playing a similar way to his last (town) game, but not in a way that feels intentional, like Frog

Hamilton- I have seen Hamilton around, but he hasn’t given me much to go on. Idk what this means, but I want to remember it

Froggggg- Am not certain of his mafia-ness. Could be completely wrong. Heard it here first, I am probably going to switch my vote.

Chaqa- Chaqa is null. He has done town things and scum things that cancel each other out.

Sweet- as Bunny said, his scumtell: “If I want to throttle sweet through the screen, he’s town”

Heart- no opinion on heart. Barely even noticed he was here. Maybe lurking? (I think i’m using that term right)

LOL READS CUZ YEAH

Brainbomb: his read on me is just an assessment of my presonality, and assuming it is because of the game and not external circumstances. If I were sad, would it be because Bunny is my mafia partner and I am sad about them having two votes? No. His argument falls apart. NULL

Bozotheclown: he posts too much. It seems intentional NULL

BunnyGo: I like his GT joke from a joke perspective, but he can just talk. NULL-LEANING MAFIA

Chaqa: Chaqa has done some towny things, but has also said some scummy stuff. NULL leaning town

damo666: bro is gone. Poor damo NULL

foodcoats: food feels the most town to me. Call it a vibe but it seems like he is playing like he did last game, while not feeling intentional, like Froggy. TOWN LEAN

Frogsterking: was weird in the beginning, and is now starting to act normally. May be intentional. Still not too certain about this read. SLIGHT MAFIA LEAN

ghug: has a lot of posts, but it seems like only a third of them are of any note. Reminds me of me, which is a bad sign. NULL

Hamilton Brian: has no reasonable posts to point to for me to give him any read. NULL


heartthrob24909: Heart seems more absent then he is. I swear he did less than he has. Towny tho. TOWN LEAN

Jamiet99uk: no one argued with him yet, so that is prob why he is so quiet. NAI tho. NULL LEANING TOWN

JustAGuyNamedWill: seems off. Maybe this goof is mafia. CONFIRMED TOWN

sweetandcool: suspicious. His voting of bunny is suspicious, although if Bunny flips mafia then I am 99% sure sweet is town. My hardest mafia lean. I am confident in my ability to read sweet. MAFIA LEAN

Vecna: Way too accusatory. The post where she called out bona and Diplomacy and Warfare was uncalled for, especially yesterday. Very mean. (Its a joke guys) NULL

Scum tell

[dargorygel]

@brain as Will sussed ICOP wouldn't he have killed darg instead of Vecna?

I first suspected darg was cop N1. Heart not placing a vote on D1, whereas a VT with little time would just place a throwaway vote, was my first hint.

And yet you voted for me...

[foodcoats]

No you know what… brain was too certain that bozo was town.

##VOTE brainbomb

[brainbomb]

@brain as Will sussed ICOP wouldn't he have killed darg instead of Vecna?

This is jumping to conclusions. Assuming that he beleived the crumbs.
The scummy part is not whether he gave his opinion on if the nightkill should be darg because of crumbs.

The scummy part was bothering to be PR hunting in the first place

[JustAGuyNamedWill]

@brain as Will sussed ICOP wouldn't he have killed darg instead of Vecna?

I first suspected darg was cop N1. Heart not placing a vote on D1, whereas a VT with little time would just place a throwaway vote, was my first hint.

And yet you voted for me...

It was only a suspicion. And I thought there was a cop scan on you. So yes.

[JustAGuyNamedWill]

No you know what… brain was too certain that bozo was town.

##VOTE brainbomb

Not the first time I’ve done this.

##VOTE BRAIN

[BunnyGo]

@brain as Will sussed ICOP wouldn't he have killed darg instead of Vecna?

I first suspected darg was cop N1. Heart not placing a vote on D1, whereas a VT with little time would just place a throwaway vote, was my first hint.

And yet you voted for me...

!!??

[BunnyGo]

@brain as Will sussed ICOP wouldn't he have killed darg instead of Vecna?

This is jumping to conclusions. Assuming that he beleived the crumbs.
The scummy part is not whether he gave his opinion on if the nightkill should be darg because of crumbs.

The scummy part was bothering to be PR hunting in the first place

Or instead of Jamie!

He says he saw it N1...