Mafia 86: Accidents Happen... - Game Thread

[Chaqa]

I'm pretty much in the same boat Food is. I think it's Bozo. If it isn't Bozo, I need to re-evaluate a lot of things, so I want to go ahead and resolve that before worrying about anything else that's going on here.

If I had to pick a second candidate, it would be Dargo.

That is not what foodcoats said. foodcoats basically town read me but wants to DK me anyway.

That's why I said "pretty much"

[bozotheclown]

@bozo I read all your stuff about why I’m scum,
But I’m not scum, so all I can say is you’re wrong.

I don't know why you think I am mafia, but I am not, so if you are town, then you are also wrong.

[bozotheclown]

I'm pretty much in the same boat Food is. I think it's Bozo. If it isn't Bozo, I need to re-evaluate a lot of things, so I want to go ahead and resolve that before worrying about anything else that's going on here.

If I had to pick a second candidate, it would be Dargo.

That is not what foodcoats said. foodcoats basically town read me but wants to DK me anyway.

That's why I said "pretty much"

What foodcoats said is more suspicious, because I thought you were his top scum read so he should be willing to vote for you.

[Chaqa]

@bozo I read all your stuff about why I’m scum,
But I’m not scum, so all I can say is you’re wrong.

I don't know why you think I am mafia, but I am not, so if you are town, then you are also wrong.

If we are both town, then who becomes the most likely mafia?

[bozotheclown]

@bozo I read all your stuff about why I’m scum,
But I’m not scum, so all I can say is you’re wrong.

I don't know why you think I am mafia, but I am not, so if you are town, then you are also wrong.

If we are both town, then who becomes the most likely mafia?

I still think you are the most likely to be mafia because you started scum reading me right after I made that comment about you and foodcoats D1. foodcoats might be back to my second scum candidate now.

[bozotheclown]

If foodcoats did fake claim the RB, he might have roleblocked the non-NK to make himself look better.

[foodcoats]

I'm pretty much in the same boat Food is. I think it's Bozo. If it isn't Bozo, I need to re-evaluate a lot of things, so I want to go ahead and resolve that before worrying about anything else that's going on here.

If I had to pick a second candidate, it would be Dargo.

That is not what foodcoats said. foodcoats basically town read me but wants to DK me anyway.

I do have bozo as my most likely 3rd scum. I merely wanted to indicate, because I am pushing hard to DK bozo, that I already feel bad if I am wrong, and I recognize I am not the greatest scum hunter.

I think second most likely for me is indeed Chaqa at this time, but there are some other things going on. I feel like brain is trying to hard-distance from the bozo wagon for example, and if bozo flips town I'd actually be very suspicious of brain. Darg has also been interested in distancing from the wagon but there is something to the way darg has done it that pings me less. There are also ways I can see ghug or Bunny being scum, too.

But, at the moment, there are a lot of reasons why I don't think Bunny, brain, darg, or ghug is most likely to be scum, and bozo is just a few notches ahead of Chaqa in terms of my own reads, and also the impassioned way that Vecna indicted bozo has stuck with me.

damo, Frog, and Will are all very unlikely to be scum in my books.

I think that is where my head is at.

[brainbomb]

My top scum are
Will
chaqa
Frog

[bozotheclown]

I'm pretty much in the same boat Food is. I think it's Bozo. If it isn't Bozo, I need to re-evaluate a lot of things, so I want to go ahead and resolve that before worrying about anything else that's going on here.

If I had to pick a second candidate, it would be Dargo.

That is not what foodcoats said. foodcoats basically town read me but wants to DK me anyway.

I do have bozo as my most likely 3rd scum. I merely wanted to indicate, because I am pushing hard to DK bozo, that I already feel bad if I am wrong, and I recognize I am not the greatest scum hunter.

I think second most likely for me is indeed Chaqa at this time, but there are some other things going on. I feel like brain is trying to hard-distance from the bozo wagon for example, and if bozo flips town I'd actually be very suspicious of brain. Darg has also been interested in distancing from the wagon but there is something to the way darg has done it that pings me less. There are also ways I can see ghug or Bunny being scum, too.

But, at the moment, there are a lot of reasons why I don't think Bunny, brain, darg, or ghug is most likely to be scum, and bozo is just a few notches ahead of Chaqa in terms of my own reads, and also the impassioned way that Vecna indicted bozo has stuck with me.

damo, Frog, and Will are all very unlikely to be scum in my books.

I think that is where my head is at.

If you think Chaqa is more likely than me to be mafia, you should vote for him.

Otherwise, this post reads like mafia trying to set up the next 2 mis-kills.

[BunnyGo]

That is not what foodcoats said. foodcoats basically town read me but wants to DK me anyway.

I do have bozo as my most likely 3rd scum. I merely wanted to indicate, because I am pushing hard to DK bozo, that I already feel bad if I am wrong, and I recognize I am not the greatest scum hunter.

I think second most likely for me is indeed Chaqa at this time, but there are some other things going on. I feel like brain is trying to hard-distance from the bozo wagon for example, and if bozo flips town I'd actually be very suspicious of brain. Darg has also been interested in distancing from the wagon but there is something to the way darg has done it that pings me less. There are also ways I can see ghug or Bunny being scum, too.

But, at the moment, there are a lot of reasons why I don't think Bunny, brain, darg, or ghug is most likely to be scum, and bozo is just a few notches ahead of Chaqa in terms of my own reads, and also the impassioned way that Vecna indicted bozo has stuck with me.

damo, Frog, and Will are all very unlikely to be scum in my books.

I think that is where my head is at.

If you think Chaqa is more likely than me to be mafia, you should vote for him.

Otherwise, this post reads like mafia trying to set up the next 2 mis-kills.

Considering he says “I think bozo is the most likely scum” as his opening line…

[bozotheclown]

I do have bozo as my most likely 3rd scum. I merely wanted to indicate, because I am pushing hard to DK bozo, that I already feel bad if I am wrong, and I recognize I am not the greatest scum hunter.

I think second most likely for me is indeed Chaqa at this time, but there are some other things going on. I feel like brain is trying to hard-distance from the bozo wagon for example, and if bozo flips town I'd actually be very suspicious of brain. Darg has also been interested in distancing from the wagon but there is something to the way darg has done it that pings me less. There are also ways I can see ghug or Bunny being scum, too.

But, at the moment, there are a lot of reasons why I don't think Bunny, brain, darg, or ghug is most likely to be scum, and bozo is just a few notches ahead of Chaqa in terms of my own reads, and also the impassioned way that Vecna indicted bozo has stuck with me.

damo, Frog, and Will are all very unlikely to be scum in my books.

I think that is where my head is at.

If you think Chaqa is more likely than me to be mafia, you should vote for him.

Otherwise, this post reads like mafia trying to set up the next 2 mis-kills.

Considering he says “I think bozo is the most likely scum” as his opening line…

I mis-read that, I thought he said third most likely scum. His previous post made it sound like he was town reading me.

[bozotheclown]

sweetandcool, foodcoats, and Hamilton all ending on BunnyGo D1 as mafia would be interesting, going against the assumption about spreading out votes. I remember doing this in the same game I mentioned earlier when I was mafia with Hamilton.

[ghug]

Can you please explain how this clears you, in your mind?

The vote shows utter disregard for Hamilton's slot. It was about feeling out damo, and I didn't hide that I had little desire to actually follow through on it. Scum doesn't make that weird of a vote on a teammate that close to the deadline.

I don't buy that you would not do that as mafia, because you did something similar to Bonatogether in M78.

That was much more like my treatment of sweet D1: on him early and then ended up elsewhere. I totally get finding that suspicious. The Hamilton vote was much more out of nowhere.

[ghug]

Where did this Chaqa wagon come from?

Is there a reason you do not suspect Chaqa as the last mafia?

Chaqa as mafia would have had to make the same sort of disingenuous appeals to emotion D1 that he still holds against Flum over a year later. I don't think he'd do that.

[bozotheclown]

The vote shows utter disregard for Hamilton's slot. It was about feeling out damo, and I didn't hide that I had little desire to actually follow through on it. Scum doesn't make that weird of a vote on a teammate that close to the deadline.

I don't buy that you would not do that as mafia, because you did something similar to Bonatogether in M78.

That was much more like my treatment of sweet D1: on him early and then ended up elsewhere. I totally get finding that suspicious. The Hamilton vote was much more out of nowhere.

I think it was more like a combination of both, you returned to voting for Bonatogether briefly at D1 EOD in M78.

[bozotheclown]

Where did this Chaqa wagon come from?

Is there a reason you do not suspect Chaqa as the last mafia?

Chaqa as mafia would have had to make the same sort of disingenuous appeals to emotion D1 that he still holds against Flum over a year later. I don't think he'd do that.

OK, assuming you are correct, what about foodcoats? Why do you think he wouldn't handle the fake claims D2 the same as mafia as he would as town? It seemed likely to me that the cop scan claims were a reaction test, I think foodcoats as mafia would recognize that possibility and react the way he did.

[foodcoats]

Bozo who are your current town reads?

[bozotheclown]

Based on the voting I'd probably completely wanna shelve my earlier suspicion of Dargo as well.

Havent really read much of him in the last 24h, but the voting looks pretty solid.

I assume that the 3rd scum would not have been absent at EOD because Ham was already under suspicion from D1 so darg and brain cannot be scum in my mind.

This is an odd assumption to make in the first place because mafia missing EOD is not usually a game related choice, and foodcoats now having brainbomb and Chaqa in his scum reads means he is throwing out this assumption.

[damo666]

With the current count at 9-1 and the cop and doc still alive scum is very unlikely to win.

Clearly either Bozo has not yet been scanned or has been scanned inno and the cop has chosen to not yet reveal. The same be said of Chaqa (or anybody else).

I don't think it matters very much who we kill as long as people just vote their most likely scum candidate and assuming the lead wagon will claim if PR (scum doing that would be suicidal due to cc) wit sufficient time for people to change their votes.

The cop (which may or may not be me) should scan the highest voted surviving player they have not scanned and should probably reveal what they know at EON3.

We have this is the bag.

[bozotheclown]

Bozo who are your current town reads?

I think brainbomb, damo, dargorygel, Frogsterking, and Just are town.

BunnyGo and ghug would be playing very well to be mafia, and I think they are both capable of it, but I would be somewhat surprised if either is mafia at this point.

I think you and Chaqa would be playing well as mafia also, but I know you are both capable of it, and I can see where either of you could be playing in a scum motivate way.