Mafia 86: Accidents Happen... - Game Thread

[bozotheclown]

Where did this Chaqa wagon come from?

I assume the voters agree with me that Chaqa is a good scum candidate.

[bozotheclown]

Where did this Chaqa wagon come from?

This post should really be enough to inform your decision on who is more likely to be mafia between me and Chaqa:

I am leaning this way currently:

I would definitely flip today: Bunny Will Chaqa Damo

I could flip today: Brain Ghug Frogster Darg

I would NOT flip today: bozo food

[dargorygel]

I lowkey think that vote clears me but ok.

Can you please explain how this clears you, in your mind?

The vote shows utter disregard for Hamilton's slot. It was about feeling out damo, and I didn't hide that I had little desire to actually follow through on it. Scum doesn't make that weird of a vote on a teammate that close to the deadline.

Thsnks

[bozotheclown]

I think this is the only other time

AS I get back in to this for a short time this morning, I'm wondering what made Bunny, damo, ghug, vecna, and chaqa make that shift at the EOD.

Bunny self-preserving kind of makes sense if I am reading it correctly and it was to make it 3-3 at that point.

So why the rest?

I am leaning this way currently:

I would definitely flip today: Bunny Will Chaqa Damo

I could flip today: Brain Ghug Frogster Darg

I would NOT flip today: bozo food

I think these are the only times Hamilton mentions Chaqa this game.

[bozotheclown]

I lowkey think that vote clears me but ok.

Can you please explain how this clears you, in your mind?

The vote shows utter disregard for Hamilton's slot. It was about feeling out damo, and I didn't hide that I had little desire to actually follow through on it. Scum doesn't make that weird of a vote on a teammate that close to the deadline.

I don't buy that you would not do that as mafia, because you did something similar to Bonatogether in M78.

[bozotheclown]

Where did this Chaqa wagon come from?

Is there a reason you do not suspect Chaqa as the last mafia?

[bozotheclown]

Okay the outline for bozotheclown scum case is set, ETA is 4:45 PM EST

This is kind of late in D3, is there any chance you can finish this earlier?

[foodcoats]

Just my two cents…

If it’s not bozo the game is a lot more complicated. I think there are a number of other people who feel the same way - including our two dead townies. So if we don’t flip bozo today then bozo is still going to be a wagon tomorrow, barring a guilty scan.

I really like what bozo is doing right now and I’m obviously not 100% but I think there are enough ideas around bozo that if we don’t flip bozo we’re going to be playing less productive days because we will always be comparing bozo to someone else.

[foodcoats]

Like if bozo is town better find out now and then tomorrow can be Chaqa vs ghug or whatever which will actually advance our game. If chaqa v bozo flips town chaqa we are stuck back at some position more or less.

[foodcoats]

Bozo if you’re town I’m sorry for tunneling you.

[bozotheclown]

Just my two cents…

If it’s not bozo the game is a lot more complicated. I think there are a number of other people who feel the same way - including our two dead townies. So if we don’t flip bozo today then bozo is still going to be a wagon tomorrow, barring a guilty scan.

I really like what bozo is doing right now and I’m obviously not 100% but I think there are enough ideas around bozo that if we don’t flip bozo we’re going to be playing less productive days because we will always be comparing bozo to someone else.

You can still DK D4 if Chaqa is town.

I think Chaqa is just waiting for me to get mis-killed before doing anything else, so in that regard mis-killing me at least forces Chaqa to look like he is doing something besides assuming I am the last mafia, but I would much prefer just DKing Chaqa.

[BunnyGo]

What do you think of this...
I am simply not sure of anyone but myself. And all of you are the same. Pretty sure... but sure enough to knock off a PR?

I am going to vote chaqa. A tie wouldn't be bad at this moment, would it?

One scum... can't be protecting anyone but himself.

##vote chaqa

Why do you think bozo is a PR? He claimed NOT PR

[bozotheclown]

Bozo if you’re town I’m sorry for tunneling you.

This actually make me concerned that it is still possible you are mafia and you were fake crumbing doctor, but assuming you are town, being wrong is part of the game.

[BunnyGo]

Just my two cents…

If it’s not bozo the game is a lot more complicated. I think there are a number of other people who feel the same way - including our two dead townies. So if we don’t flip bozo today then bozo is still going to be a wagon tomorrow, barring a guilty scan.

I really like what bozo is doing right now and I’m obviously not 100% but I think there are enough ideas around bozo that if we don’t flip bozo we’re going to be playing less productive days because we will always be comparing bozo to someone else.

Get out of my brain

[bozotheclown]

What do you think of this...
I am simply not sure of anyone but myself. And all of you are the same. Pretty sure... but sure enough to knock off a PR?

I am going to vote chaqa. A tie wouldn't be bad at this moment, would it?

One scum... can't be protecting anyone but himself.

##vote chaqa

Why do you think bozo is a PR? He claimed NOT PR

I never claimed one way or the other.

[BunnyGo]

2-3 clears and 3 mis-kills is better than 2 clears and 2 mis-kills.

2 clears is a larger proportion of the total remaining players in the latter case.

If I am not a PR and therefore do not claim doctor, the cop would know it would be 3 clears and 3 mis-kills with 10 players left or 2 clears and 2 mis-kills with 9 players left. In the first case, 30% of players are cleared, in the second case 22% of players are cleared. The first case is obviously better, so the cop would be taking a chance that he would get 2 more town scans in, or 1 mafia scan, to make the trade-off beneficial for town.

Ah. My mind misremembered this post.

[Chaqa]

@bozo I read all your stuff about why I’m scum,
But I’m not scum, so all I can say is you’re wrong.

[Chaqa]

I'm pretty much in the same boat Food is. I think it's Bozo. If it isn't Bozo, I need to re-evaluate a lot of things, so I want to go ahead and resolve that before worrying about anything else that's going on here.

If I had to pick a second candidate, it would be Dargo.

[bozotheclown]

Their play fits exactly in the narrative.

Bozo refusing to vote his teammate HB to save his life (its an autoloss vs 9 town including a cop/doc)

HB refusing to vote his teammate Bozo to save his life

Bozo spinning this whole narrative to only focus on the bussers. He had to. Everyone killing the GF was TOWN.

I am not sure what Frogsterking is going to come up with, but I assume that what Vecna concluded here is why at least 4 town players suspect me. It makes sense, although I don't think I have ever seen mafia do what Vecna concluded was going on D2, and Vecna did not seem to take into account Hamilton voting to get himself DKed at EOD while I was actively trying to get someone else DKed.

[bozotheclown]

I'm pretty much in the same boat Food is. I think it's Bozo. If it isn't Bozo, I need to re-evaluate a lot of things, so I want to go ahead and resolve that before worrying about anything else that's going on here.

If I had to pick a second candidate, it would be Dargo.

That is not what foodcoats said. foodcoats basically town read me but wants to DK me anyway.