Mafia 86: Accidents Happen... - Game Thread

[BunnyGo]

You think it is normal for Bozo to post a long reads list in which he scumreads everybody?

id say it barely registers as peculiar on the bozo scale of things.

And I hadnt even considered darg's take that it might just be jokes.

It was odd for sure, but Bozo often is. Whether he is scum or town is sorta besides the point im making here.

When bozo responds that far our of character? "It barely registers" doesn't give me confidence that you're reading as closely as you'd like us to think you are.

I sure hope the cop didn't scan bozo. I don't want them claiming to save him, unless they have both him and someone else living and scanned.

I hope the cop was clever enough to scan people who weren't likely to get voted anyways.

[JustAGuyNamedWill]

id say it barely registers as peculiar on the bozo scale of things.

And I hadnt even considered darg's take that it might just be jokes.

It was odd for sure, but Bozo often is. Whether he is scum or town is sorta besides the point im making here.

When bozo responds that far our of character? "It barely registers" doesn't give me confidence that you're reading as closely as you'd like us to think you are.

I sure hope the cop didn't scan bozo. I don't want them claiming to save him, unless they have both him and someone else living and scanned.

I hope the cop was clever enough to scan people who weren't likely to get voted anyways.

I think the cop would be smart enough

[BunnyGo]

Ah right sorry I was only looking at his D1.

Here it was:



@Bozo: This read list is silly. Why did you create it? Who are your actual scumreads, please?

I still suspect everyone to some degree, because I am not very confident on anyone being town.

I don't recall bozo being this "unsure" during a game. Or at least verbalizing it.

hmm...HamBone had addressed this earlier:

Here are the players I suspect:

And then promptly lists off the remaining players. That's funny. I don't think bozo is ever funny though, so this is a little off-brand.

That's weird.

Did they meet in scum chat and decide to distance?

did he forget?

is he trying to shade town!bozo? Deciding that it's a good push?

[bozotheclown]

Somehow I still suspect Vecna is mafia.

[bozotheclown]

We're not quite at ability for cop to just claim. Even if both their scans are still alive, AND they were not roleblock, AND none of their scans were the doctor.

Best case situation, we have:

cop
2 VT scanned and still alive
doctor is not scanned.

IF we don't get scum today and the above is that situation, then the cop needs to decide if they should claim at EON and post their information then.

If we get to tomorrow and it is:

cop
2-3 VT scanned and living
doctor unscanned (or scanned if all three scanned are living)

Then I think it's auto from there.

Might be off by one though...not counting it out too closely. Need damo for that. Or brain. I'm lazy.

3 town scans D4 is not enough if one is the doctor, it could still come down to 3-1 D6 with 2 non-clears.

[bozotheclown]

id say it barely registers as peculiar on the bozo scale of things.

And I hadnt even considered darg's take that it might just be jokes.

It was odd for sure, but Bozo often is. Whether he is scum or town is sorta besides the point im making here.

When bozo responds that far our of character? "It barely registers" doesn't give me confidence that you're reading as closely as you'd like us to think you are.

I sure hope the cop didn't scan bozo. I don't want them claiming to save him, unless they have both him and someone else living and scanned.

I hope the cop was clever enough to scan people who weren't likely to get voted anyways.

That is questionable since letting a town clear get mis-killed would mean that the cop would need to clear 2 more players for it to be beneficial, which may not happen. Of course the cop could scan the remaining mafia, so that would be a potential benefit of staying hidden.

[bozotheclown]

Here are the players I now think are probably town: brainbomb, BunnyGo, damo, foodcoats, Frogsterking, ghug, dargorygel, Just.

[bozotheclown]

##VOTE Chaqa

[bozotheclown]

Wow, I thought Will's play last game was good and I'm liking it this game too.

Just a Will Named Town.

I agree with that. He's the new Jeff Kuta.

here's where I'm at

Town Gang
brainbomb
BunnyGo
Jamie

Scum Gang
Bozo
Damo
Will

Sneaky Null Gang
foodcoats
Frogsterking
ghug
Hamilton Brian
heartthrob24909
sweetandcool
Vecna

I think I've explained the non-null reads in my postings, but I can elaborate if needed.

I don't understand why the wagons are how they are. Bunny and Will seem like extremely good candidates. Why are people being hung up on others? Like I understand some of the paranoia, but it seems pretty clear who we should be voting for here.

We know why sweetandcool changed his opinion on Just (assuming Just is town), but why did Chaqa?

According to Chaqa it was because of this:

Chaqa, do you think scum!Will is deliberately making big but repetitive posts in order to appear townie?

It's on my radar

However, I suspect it was because of this:

For the record, I think sweet is probably the most likely to be scum. Every time I voted him in my past 4 games, he was scum, so I think I have an idea about what he does.

[bozotheclown]

Here are the players I now think are probably town: brainbomb, BunnyGo, damo, foodcoats, Frogsterking, ghug, dargorygel, Just.

BunnyGo's questionable advice for the cop and his trying to hammer me have made me reconsider him as a scum possibility, so the players I now think are probably town are: brainbomb, damo, foodcoats, Frogsterking, ghug, dargorygel, Just.

[bozotheclown]

##vote bozo ##end

This is questionable because you have been talking about town clears, yet you do not seem to be accounting for the possibility that I am a PR.

[bozotheclown]

I need to o for a run so I need to vote now. I kind of sheep brain to the point that I'd vote along one of his lines even if he didn't stick with it.

##Vote Bunny

Plus sweet is on that wagon and I kind of vibe sweet too.

I had thought this meant BunnyGo was probably town, but there was a game recently where Hamilton bussed his partner in a similar way at EOD, and in that game there were only 2 mafia, so I don't think this should clear BunnyGo.

[bozotheclown]

BunnyGo's D2 vote timing looks like he was serious about getting brainbomb DKed over Hamilton despite voting for Hamilton for significant portions of D2 (and Hamilton voting for him all of D2).

[bozotheclown]

BunnyGo could have told Hamilton to keep bussing him D2 since Hamilton would be likely to get flipped first. Hamilton was definitely not a threat to make it deep into the game after D1.

[bozotheclown]

D2 EOD Hamilton volunteered to get flipped first. This could have been an attempt to sound like town, but in the last minute of D2, he changed his vote from BunnyGo to Frogsterking, and it was only 3 seconds after foodcoats voted for Hamilton to break the tie between Hamilton and BunnyGo, and only 9 seconds after BunnyGo voted for Hamilton:

##vote ham

Bleh

##VOTE Hamilton Brian

##Vote Frog

Hamilton likely did not know what the exact vote was, but he would have know changing his vote from BunnyGo to Frogsterking would make it more likely he would get DKed over BunnyGo, which does not make any sense unless BunnyGo is mafia.

Also, the mafia had to be concerned about the PRs, and Hamilton not only let himself get DKed but voted to make it happen without making a PR claim to try to force a CC. sweetandcool also missed an opportunity to claim a PR D1 when BunnyGo was his counter wagon.

##VOTE BunnyGo

[bozotheclown]

I think we get much more info out of the Bunny slot but I’ll go to Frog if it picks up steam and Bunny doesn’t.

##Vote Frog

Hamilton set up a move to Frogsterking at 50 minute until EOD, but still expressed a preference for BunnyGo. When Hamilton returned at 4 minutes, he may not have been able to follow the bot, but he asked what the vote was so he knew BunnyGo and himself were both lead wagons and that Frogsterking was not a viable option.

I think after D1 BunnyGo and Hamilton knew BunnyGo was better positioned than Hamilton going forward, so the plan was for Hamilton to bus BunnyGo to give BunnyGo additional town credit when Hamilton flipped, then when Hamilton returned at D2 EOD to find himself and BunnyGo up for the DK, he was motivated to get DKed over BunnyGo.

[bozotheclown]

id say it barely registers as peculiar on the bozo scale of things.

And I hadnt even considered darg's take that it might just be jokes.

It was odd for sure, but Bozo often is. Whether he is scum or town is sorta besides the point im making here.

When bozo responds that far our of character? "It barely registers" doesn't give me confidence that you're reading as closely as you'd like us to think you are.

I sure hope the cop didn't scan bozo. I don't want them claiming to save him, unless they have both him and someone else living and scanned.

I hope the cop was clever enough to scan people who weren't likely to get voted anyways.

The more I think about it, the cop letting town clears get DKed is something the mafia would like to see at this point in the game.

[damo666]

##unvote

Would Bozo Ham kill Jamie N1 - maybe

Would Bozo kill Vecna N2 following J N1. Doubtful it just points to Bozo too strongly. Could be a double bluff?

I'm going back to where I started ##vote darg.

I'm not confident though.

[damo666]

@Bunny please note EOD2 I joined the Ham wagon but I missed the Hold post so it wasn't counted.

[bozotheclown]

##unvote

Would Bozo Ham kill Jamie N1 - maybe

Would Bozo kill Vecna N2 following J N1. Doubtful it just points to Bozo too strongly. Could be a double bluff?

I'm going back to where I started ##vote darg.

I'm not confident though.

Why do you think Hamilton was OK getting himself DKed over BunnyGo?