Mafia 86: Accidents Happen... - Game Thread

[brainbomb]

i think foods roleblock claim could be real

It would make sense if some players did this who arent established veterans

[brainbomb]

Like this guy

##vote will

[bozotheclown]

##vote Hamb

I am fairly confident Hamilton is town.

sigh...

why? What'd you think of his complete retcon of why he voted me vs sweet?

I looked at it and I would not characterize what he said that way, but what he said does not seem scum motivated.

[ghug]

Frog fails to even adress my claim that I'm not actually vying for cred beyond saying I am again. That's fine, we all get stuck in stupid tunnels, and as I've acknowledged the whole time, it's reasonable to suspect me for the way I pulled back on sweet.

The thing that gets me, beyond bring annoyed at the rhetoric, is how lazy it is. A good chunk of the quotes come from posts where I was directly responding to him asking for answers. Combine that with the slow responses in and the missing things, and I'm left trying to figure out whether he can't be fucked to read the thread because of scum or because of towny overconfidence.

It doesn't matter if you are claiming credit or not, the vote speaks for itself from Frogsterking's point of view. I don't think the fact that you do that as town matters to him, and I am not sure it should. If you are mafia, I would assume you voted for sweetandcool at EOD because it is what you would do as town.

As for your opinion of how Frogsterking is playing, I don't see what you are talking about, and what looks like undermining him comes across as possibly scum motivated.

It matters if I'm claiming credit if his argument is that I'm claiming credit, no?

[ghug]

Do you think Frog is fully engaged with the game, bozo?

[bozotheclown]

##VOTE damo

Someone should hop on damo to tie it. I don't like the heart voters.

The timing of the damo vote went unexplained for a significant amount of time, and calling for damo votes was questionable. BunnyGo was the only other heart voter, and he was the lead wagon.

[bozotheclown]

Frog fails to even adress my claim that I'm not actually vying for cred beyond saying I am again. That's fine, we all get stuck in stupid tunnels, and as I've acknowledged the whole time, it's reasonable to suspect me for the way I pulled back on sweet.

The thing that gets me, beyond bring annoyed at the rhetoric, is how lazy it is. A good chunk of the quotes come from posts where I was directly responding to him asking for answers. Combine that with the slow responses in and the missing things, and I'm left trying to figure out whether he can't be fucked to read the thread because of scum or because of towny overconfidence.

It doesn't matter if you are claiming credit or not, the vote speaks for itself from Frogsterking's point of view. I don't think the fact that you do that as town matters to him, and I am not sure it should. If you are mafia, I would assume you voted for sweetandcool at EOD because it is what you would do as town.

As for your opinion of how Frogsterking is playing, I don't see what you are talking about, and what looks like undermining him comes across as possibly scum motivated.

It matters if I'm claiming credit if his argument is that I'm claiming credit, no?

I believe he was saying you were taking credit by pointing out you suspected sweetandcool earlier and still had suspicion of him, not that you were taking credit for the final vote.

[bozotheclown]

Do you think Frog is fully engaged with the game, bozo?

I think he is spending a reasonable amount of time with it, probably more than I have had time for. He was impressive in M85, and although I am not sure what he is capable of as mafia, I seriously doubt he would think it would be a good idea to show up D1 EOD to push through a mafia DK.

[bozotheclown]

If foodcoats is town, there is likely one mafia voting for me and one voting for Hamilton, because I suspect myself vs. Hamilton is what the mafia want to see. I think damo and dargorygel are probably town, so that leaves one of Vecna/BunnyGo and one of ghug/Chaqa. I think I am back to BunnyGo/ghug as the most likely remaining mafia.

##VOTE BunnyGo

[Vecna]

If foodcoats is town, there is likely one mafia voting for me and one voting for Hamilton, because I suspect myself vs. Hamilton is what the mafia want to see. I think damo and dargorygel are probably town, so that leaves one of Vecna/BunnyGo and one of ghug/Chaqa. I think I am back to BunnyGo/ghug as the most likely remaining mafia.

##VOTE BunnyGo

This really reads so damn mechanical. Not like an actual thought at all.

What makes you state that darg is likely town for example?

[Frogsterking]

Ghug, I lumped you and darg and you and foodcoats together because I was in a time crunch writing the post (I was at work.) I had plans to ask a lot more questions but whatever.

This is a shitty answer that doesn't actually get at the question at all. Why those pairings? Were the questions targeted at one person but extended to another?

I'll eagerly await your answer in two weeks after you've acknowledged the questions and needled others for insufficiently prompt answers sufficiently.

Lol they were my top 2 suspects and 2 slots I thought were red herrings mixed around as they popped into my head. The questions were written in pseudo stream-of-consciousness after the pair was chosen. It seems like they struck a chord with you.

[Frogsterking]

Ghug is still in their scum range or no?

[Frogsterking]

If foodcoats is town, there is likely one mafia voting for me and one voting for Hamilton, because I suspect myself vs. Hamilton is what the mafia want to see. I think damo and dargorygel are probably town, so that leaves one of Vecna/BunnyGo and one of ghug/Chaqa. I think I am back to BunnyGo/ghug as the most likely remaining mafia.

##VOTE BunnyGo

This really reads so damn mechanical. Not like an actual thought at all.

What makes you state that darg is likely town for example?

It might be worth going over bozo again

[Frogsterking]

For the record, I think sweet is probably the most likely to be scum. Every time I voted him in my past 4 games, he was scum, so I think I have an idea about what he does.

I believe this vote from M83 is the only time in your last 4 games that you voted for sweetandcool when he was mafia and you were town:

##VOTE Sweetandcool

I could have vote for any of darg, sweet, or hamilton. I have very light opinions on each of them, and honestly my vote could swing on a dime.

What specifically do you think sweetandcool does as mafia that you have identified?

Goon rushing to the aid of their godfather?

@bozo

Did you manipulate ghug?

[Frogsterking]

For the record, I think sweet is probably the most likely to be scum. Every time I voted him in my past 4 games, he was scum, so I think I have an idea about what he does.

This is basically where I'm at.

What is the criteria for suspecting sweetandcool? As far as I know, you have each only had the opportunity to correctly scum read him once.

This one too, from bozo.

[Frogsterking]

Can anyone give me some info on ghug's personality?

[BunnyGo]

I'm the cop. I crumbed my scan result and soon brainbomb will announce it.

Wow what did brainbomb get from your one post?

Its bunny and food.

Thank you friends. This was my greatest moment

Its bunny and food.

Thank you friends. This was my greatest moment

What makes you think it is Bunny and I?

This is Dr. Foosier Croats… I’m listening.

This sequence demonstrates that foodcoats knew exactly what was going on and was not fooled by ghug, and it looks like he was preparing to CC brainbomb's cop claim with a doctor claim.

##VOTE food

Are you claiming you have a guilty scan on me?

foodcoats thinking ghug was the one making a cop scan claim does not make much sense here. So much so that I would not be surprised if ghug is mafia with foodcoats. That would also explain why ghug seemd to think brainbomb might have had a real scan on foodcoats.

How did bozo go from this to his final post?

[Frogsterking]

Do you think Frog is fully engaged with the game, bozo?

I think he is spending a reasonable amount of time with it, probably more than I have had time for. He was impressive in M85, and although I am not sure what he is capable of as mafia, I seriously doubt he would think it would be a good idea to show up D1 EOD to push through a mafia DK.

Wait. You're suggesting that ghug tried to bus the other goon?

[foodcoats]

To the GT:

##VOTE BunnyGo

Did you think what BunnyGo was doing made him more likely to be mafia, or was this just a joke?

Also, when you placed that vote, did you know sweetandcool was already voting for him?

This was a joke vote.

[foodcoats]

This is basically where I'm at.

What is the criteria for suspecting sweetandcool? As far as I know, you have each only had the opportunity to correctly scum read him once.

This one too, from bozo.

Although it has been proven in hindsight to have been correct, I thought the soul-reading of sweet was pretty ridiculous at the time and I don’t see anything wrong with the way bozo challenged it.