Mafia 86: Accidents Happen... - Game Thread

[Chaqa]

##Vote Bozo

naked vote b/c its scummy

##vote bozo

BuddyGo

[ghug]

Town:
ghug, brain, Chaqa, Will, food

Not necessarily town but I don't feel like voting for them:
Frog
Darg
Vecna

Not necessarily town and I'd consider voting:
Bozo
Bunny
Damo
Ham

I hope someone is offended by my comma/newline inconsistency.

[damo666]

Town:
ghug, brain, Chaqa, Will, food

Not necessarily town but I don't feel like voting for them:
Frog
Darg
Vecna

Not necessarily town and I'd consider voting:
Bozo
Bunny
Damo
Ham

I hope someone is offended by my comma/newline inconsistency.

I'm disgusted.

[Chaqa]

I say we kill him

[dargorygel]

@foodcoats
My vote on you is based on this progression.
When I first read through the game, sweet was already dead. And it seemed to me that you sang his praises a lot.

That, of course, is not AI... but the fact that sweet was (potentially YOUR) Godfather might make you feel the need to almost buddy him... if he was scanned, it could make you look good. NOT enough to vote you, but it planted the seed.

Then the ghug storm hit. Your reaction (and missreading, imo) seemed a bit panicky. I think you SAW an accusation against you bigger than it really was. I explained this, already. It was, in my mind, the guilty seeing accusers where they weren't. Then you continued to post about it with angst. Ghug wrote that he actually liked that, but I wondered if it was scum trying to not make any sudden moves while you felt the headlights were on you.

So I was thinking you were scum. Panicked a bit. And wanting to answer things right away so it didn't seem like you were receiving advice.

But when it hit me that you delayed so long to claim a roleblock you were nudged over the edge.

Your explanation didn't help. Yes, it was wild during the ghug battle. But it still took you a long long time. I suspect you received advice from yer pardner to look for an opportunity to claim... throwing some dust in the room, and making you appear a little inno.

So I voted.

[brainbomb]

This is basically where I'm at.

What is the criteria for suspecting sweetandcool? As far as I know, you have each only had the opportunity to correctly scum read him once.

I could see there being 2 scum talking, here.

How many do you see now?

[dargorygel]

Gotta ban someone... sigh.

I would also vote for ham, and maybe bunny.

Not bozo or brain.

[JustAGuyNamedWill]

Gotta ban someone... sigh.

I would also vote for ham, and maybe bunny.

Not bozo or brain.

I encourage to not do Bunny, if you have only two options.

[dargorygel]

Town:
ghug, brain, Chaqa, Will, food

Not necessarily town but I don't feel like voting for them:
Frog
Darg
Vecna

Not necessarily town and I'd consider voting:
Bozo
Bunny
Damo
Ham

I hope someone is offended by my comma/newline inconsistency.

Is it fair to say that you have a 'scum leaning' list here? More scum than town? Any comment as to why you think that might be?

[ghug]

Gotta ban someone... sigh.

I would also vote for ham, and maybe bunny.

Not bozo or brain.

Is it Sargmacher?

[brainbomb]

I can't help but imagine heartthrob as a tub of vanilla ice cream in front of his computer.

This is not an insult, just a reflection on the fact that I've yet to glean anything from him and it has been like three games now.

Heart, maybe you should emulate Bunny here?

This is a safe thing for scum sweet to say to town heart. it is the perfect player to do this toward because it is unlikely to accidentally cause heart to transform into an elite tier town voice, and its also someone unlikely to feel like this is scum talking to them.

the advice also makes me think that scum sweet would not tell scum heart to play more like scum bunny. The mere suggestion would create too many people looking too alike, and this sort of team dynamic would make little sense. It seems more likely that mafia sweet would suggest to Heart, that he should behave like bunny, because at the time bunnys gimmick was drawing negative reactions and attention.

So this would appear to be bunny and heart are probably not sweets teammates. Given how darg has played since arrival I find it even less likely that heart was ever mafia.

If heart was town, and bunny was mafia I cant see why sweet would encourage this as it draws more attention to bunny who is already getting more than enough attention.

[ghug]

Town:
ghug, brain, Chaqa, Will, food

Not necessarily town but I don't feel like voting for them:
Frog
Darg
Vecna

Not necessarily town and I'd consider voting:
Bozo
Bunny
Damo
Ham

I hope someone is offended by my comma/newline inconsistency.

Is it fair to say that you have a 'scum leaning' list here? More scum than town? Any comment as to why you think that might be?

Process of elimination.

[Frogsterking]

What is the criteria for suspecting sweetandcool? As far as I know, you have each only had the opportunity to correctly scum read him once.

I could see there being 2 scum talking, here.

How many do you see now?

Just 1, ghug

[Frogsterking]

I can't help but imagine heartthrob as a tub of vanilla ice cream in front of his computer.

This is not an insult, just a reflection on the fact that I've yet to glean anything from him and it has been like three games now.

Heart, maybe you should emulate Bunny here?

This is a safe thing for scum sweet to say to town heart. it is the perfect player to do this toward because it is unlikely to accidentally cause heart to transform into an elite tier town voice, and its also someone unlikely to feel like this is scum talking to them.

the advice also makes me think that scum sweet would not tell scum heart to play more like scum bunny. The mere suggestion would create too many people looking too alike, and this sort of team dynamic would make little sense. It seems more likely that mafia sweet would suggest to Heart, that he should behave like bunny, because at the time bunnys gimmick was drawing negative reactions and attention.

So this would appear to be bunny and heart are probably not sweets teammates. Given how darg has played since arrival I find it even less likely that heart was ever mafia.

If heart was town, and bunny was mafia I cant see why sweet would encourage this as it draws more attention to bunny who is already getting more than enough attention.

What about ghug-chaqa?

[Frogsterking]

Three things:

1. Frog, answer my questions and actually respond to Jamie's case. Given that you've acknowledged me at this point, it can no longer be attributed to laziness.
2. Anyone who has played with brain extensively and is currently voting for him is highly suspect. He is oozing town.
3. ##CALLGM I think you accidentally the doctor PM. Can you clarify the correct role text?

Doctor: You're the Town Doctor! For such a small town, you'd think they would employ more doctors... but nope, you're it! Each night, you can ##save a person from death if they are the target of the Mafia NK by submitting a ##scan order to the GMs via PM on Webdiplo or Discord. Good luck guessing those targets! You win when the scum team is eliminated.

Jamie's post already got the response it deserves. I'll answer your questions after I get off work. I can already warn you that won't like my answers considering how easy it is to quote examples of you milking cred from your sweet vote.

[foodcoats]

@foodcoats
My vote on you is based on this progression.
When I first read through the game, sweet was already dead. And it seemed to me that you sang his praises a lot.

That, of course, is not AI... but the fact that sweet was (potentially YOUR) Godfather might make you feel the need to almost buddy him... if he was scanned, it could make you look good. NOT enough to vote you, but it planted the seed.

Then the ghug storm hit. Your reaction (and missreading, imo) seemed a bit panicky. I think you SAW an accusation against you bigger than it really was. I explained this, already. It was, in my mind, the guilty seeing accusers where they weren't. Then you continued to post about it with angst. Ghug wrote that he actually liked that, but I wondered if it was scum trying to not make any sudden moves while you felt the headlights were on you.

So I was thinking you were scum. Panicked a bit. And wanting to answer things right away so it didn't seem like you were receiving advice.

But when it hit me that you delayed so long to claim a roleblock you were nudged over the edge.

Your explanation didn't help. Yes, it was wild during the ghug battle. But it still took you a long long time. I suspect you received advice from yer pardner to look for an opportunity to claim... throwing some dust in the room, and making you appear a little inno.

So I voted.

Alright, this is pretty good. Townleaning on darg now.

[brainbomb]

I'm sure you're joking, but IRL has got me grumpy. My goal nonetheless this game is to try to be as reasonably civil as in last game.

Thank you for being open. How is being on tilt affecting your ability to make up reads?

I don't think my abilities will be impacted, just want to yell at someone

Frog checking in with sweet to have a tender moment of "hey take it easy man, you seem tilted, is this fight with bunny impacting your play?"

or is this

Frog is sus of sweet, makes this post, vanishes for 23 hours, doesnt vote til mega late in the day, and was apparently stewing over sweet but not outwardly.

Frog, what took you so long to fully articulate your official read on sweet here?

[brainbomb]

damo-frog

[JustAGuyNamedWill]

everyone, and everyone else is 1000% town to me. to be very clear. I do not even have the slightest or remotest scumread on a single player outside those three

This is either mafia, really bad play, or he’s just not paying attention

damo-frog

Wow.

[brainbomb]

##VOTE Frog

:O

I forgot ghug is in the game, yay!

I'm going to have to accept he's a nudist voter, I guess :/

Sweet is not happy ghug voted frog without reasoning.

ghug is not scum with sweet.