Mafia 86: Accidents Happen... - Game Thread

[damo666]

yeah, we have to assume food is town (which I already was), obviously it would be great to get a cc but doubt we will!

RB of limited use to scum now isn't it?

RB nerfs any known PR. Hence why cop may not want to claim a result.

What if the roleblocker died tho? Then should cop claim?

It's a factional RB.

Fake townslip?

[BunnyGo]

Yes given the GF is dead a cop with a guilty scan should obviously claim. The fact neither ghug (nor brain) explicitly claimed cop with a specific guilty target indicated they were messing about (either as scum or mischievous town but let's just leave it as nai). Now it is possible ghug is cop with an inno scan so asking him to confirm he is not cop is not helpful to town but is helpful to scum. So obviously ghug won't answer regardless of alignment.

At this point there is nothing more to be made of it. I have resolved to listen to my town reads closely going forward to avoid tilt towards brain and ghug. My strongest towns are BunnyGo and Frogster. I think you are town, too.

Ok... so help me out. I have hinted that i would like an explanation about the case on you, (and on will, and on Ham). I see LOUD votes but not LOUD cases. Would you summarize for me?

My case on Ham:


His early posts were good.

But his EOD1 and N1 posts regularly changed history of what actually happened. He would describe his voting reasons on me one way when they were objectively not that way. He’d describe sweet one way when they were objectively not.


Now…is this possibly town Ham? Sure. Just did the exact same thing last game.

But it’s not a good look. Especially as it happened more than once.

[JustAGuyNamedWill]

oh, and
##VOTE FOOD

I can't see a reason to wait to announce RB. The Chaqa school of RB claims (legit or fake) has taught me that it is an immediate claim thing.

This makes me think darg was RBed. +town point for darg

By his own reasoning he'd counter if RB'd.

I’m dumb lol

[damo666]

I dunno how it is where you play elsewhere, but VTs and PRs both get told they’re RBd.

But common current meta here is to RB and kill same player to not give a VT the claim.

Then scum can fake claim the RB if they want.

Well…I’m sure you see. Just wasn’t sure if you were used to VTs getting told RB.

We haven't had an answer to the can doc selfsave question yet

If doc can’t self save, then it is unlikely scum would have RBed their kill target, which gives food much town cred.

Exactly

[BunnyGo]

RB nerfs any known PR. Hence why cop may not want to claim a result.

What if the roleblocker died tho? Then should cop claim?

It's a factional RB.

Fake townslip?

No. Probably not fake.

[damo666]

What if the roleblocker died tho? Then should cop claim?

It's a factional RB.

Fake townslip?

No. Probably not fake.

Yeah.

[BunnyGo]

You are all getting worked up because of bad communication.

It's like teenage dating in this thread right now.

That should be a theme. We’re doing Love Island UK at work now…

[JustAGuyNamedWill]

It's a factional RB.

Fake townslip?

No. Probably not fake.

Yeah.

Didn’t worcej say that “Mafia also have a killer and a roleblocker.” And said he forgot to put it in the setup?

[BunnyGo]

No, just stop.

think about this logically.

scum usually roleblocks the target they kill. if they thought there was a chance jamie was a PR they wouldve probably roleblocked him. Why on earth would they roleblock food, like ever?

food tried to soft doc. anyone with a fucking brain can see it, plain as day. he wasnt softing hes frasier goddamn crane. use some common sense!

and when he sees now he has to retract that softing doc, he needs some other fallback to try to be cleared.

oh great, a roleblock. unprovable, something mafia can claim under scrutiny.

the main reason he retracted his doc claim and has spin zoned it, is because his best line of attack on ghug and myself is that we were anti town. an argument that resonates well with people like damo and chaqa who think anything fake at all is just bad, bad no matter what it did.

again, reread what happened. I beg and implore you on my knees to just go REREAD it. even if you dont reach that same conclusion I did, REREAD it. it doesnt look clean at all, it looks clunky, and it looks like he was searching for a way out of it all along

I’m on mobile at work. Can you tell me roughly when this was? Which phase or pages?

[JustAGuyNamedWill]

I just noticed jamie’s pfp.

But I checked the setup, and damo and Bunny are right. Sorry.

[JustAGuyNamedWill]

You are all getting worked up because of bad communication.

It's like teenage dating in this thread right now.

That should be a theme. We’re doing Love Island UK at work now…

Next up we have Derek from HR! He’s a little on the crazy side, and has some questionable opinions on political topics, but he’s got a good heart!

[JustAGuyNamedWill]

What if the roleblocker died tho? Then should cop claim?

It's a factional RB.

Fake townslip?

No. Probably not fake.

Remember when Bunny did a townslip? If it was fake, I don’t think Bunny would have said this. Bunny is most likely, LOCKTOWN.

[damo666]

I've just read sweet's opening post in the sign up thread

"What does the Godfather do?"

Well, get killed D1 I guess.

[JustAGuyNamedWill]

I've just read sweet's opening post in the sign up thread

"What does the Godfather do?"

Well, get killed D1 I guess.

Poor sweet’s never made it past D1 as mafia.

[BunnyGo]

oh, and
##VOTE FOOD

I can't see a reason to wait to announce RB. The Chaqa school of RB claims (legit or fake) has taught me that it is an immediate claim thing.

Also a good point. Hmm.

The other thing this whole discussion has triggered is brains last post Day1 really looks like PR hunting in retrospect. I didn’t notice at the time, but now he seems to have it on the .


Then the food post just above: “are you (brain) claiming we’re scum together?” Is weird.

Hmm.

##vote brain

[BunnyGo]

It's a factional RB.

Fake townslip?

No. Probably not fake.

Remember when Bunny did a townslip? If it was fake, I don’t think Bunny would have said this. Bunny is most likely, LOCKTOWN.

Huh? How does my sense of whether you’d fake something tell you about whether I would?

[JustAGuyNamedWill]

No. Probably not fake.

Remember when Bunny did a townslip? If it was fake, I don’t think Bunny would have said this. Bunny is most likely, LOCKTOWN.

Huh? How does my sense of whether you’d fake something tell you about whether I would?

If you could fake a townslip, you’d be more likely to believe I did too

[JustAGuyNamedWill]

But thats just a theory… a MAAAAAFIA theory.

[BunnyGo]

No, this was me making a joke based on the similarities between my username and the titular protagonist of the popular 90s sitcom Fraser, to needle you and ghug by suggesting you need psychiatric help.

However, it’s important you brought this up, because I had thought you were doc-reading me for another reason. And since Chaqa asked…

I was roleblocked.

I thought that scum!brain had hypothesized in the scum chat that I was doctor, as the more logical inference seemed to be to think I was going to claim cop, and I found the focus on doc bizarre… unless brain had convinced himself I was doc and therefore RBd me.

This makes brain ever so slightly less scummy.

Scum team roleblocked one person and killed another?!

If true, food is cleared.

If false, food is scum.

Awesome.

And at the moment, this whole progression feels massively authentic. Welcome to my towncore food.

Wha? And if its fake?

Could be. But my sense of this whole day isn’t “trapped panicking scum” it’s “pissed off confused town”

Don’t worry there’s room in my core for you and damo too!

[JustAGuyNamedWill]

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Wha? And if its fake?

Could be. But my sense of this whole day isn’t “trapped panicking scum” it’s “pissed off confused town”

Don’t worry there’s room in my core for you and damo too!

Ok, I understand this logic and why you think this. For me tho, food has to do more than claim to be RBed to become towncore.