Mafia 86: Accidents Happen... - Game Thread

[brainbomb]

when I kept saying guilty, I had been watching alot of 90s sitcoms about courtrooms. I just wanted to use the word guilty alot because matlock is really special to me. it was never a cop soft. I just really wish matlock would be a mainstay in the american household.

matlock really matters to me alot. Im sorry if my repeatedly loving matlock confused you into thinking I was cop

This is so disingenuous. I made a joke and when you pointed it out I very quickly clarified my position. You and ghug made hard claims and sat on them for hours before retracting them. You were very actively anti-town whereas I made a joke that was misunderstood and that I immediately, unambiguously clarified when it was brought up.

we both know what you really did there. and what you really intended.

[foodcoats]

Hey foid... i just thought of something. When did you claim RB? And more to the point, why did you not claim immediately?

I did not claim it immediately because ghug and brain went whole hog right at end of night and I was trying to figure out what the relationship was between what I know was ghug lying and my roleblock. I wanted to be careful not to give too much information that might help scum PR hunt as I suspected they were claim baiting.

[Chaqa]

game needs to breathe, and brain needs to shut up for people to have room to express their own ideas and thoughts. however, I am quite certain food is scum, ive always been certain of this to be the case. I am failing at nailing this down somehow, and there is just some immense wall of pushback. Even when the guy tried to save sweet, and was in sync with the scum godfather all day long.

Ive expressed the why, ive pointed to every data point I can find and it just isnt being accepted as reality.

So, maybe I just need to walk away and do nothing for a while, let you guys miskill some people and get some stuff wrong for a few days, and when youre ready to live in this simple reality, with a very very simple answer, go ahead and call me up, ill be onboard for the death scene.

I've never known you to be one for a simple answer

[foodcoats]

when I kept saying guilty, I had been watching alot of 90s sitcoms about courtrooms. I just wanted to use the word guilty alot because matlock is really special to me. it was never a cop soft. I just really wish matlock would be a mainstay in the american household.

matlock really matters to me alot. Im sorry if my repeatedly loving matlock confused you into thinking I was cop

This is so disingenuous. I made a joke and when you pointed it out I very quickly clarified my position. You and ghug made hard claims and sat on them for hours before retracting them. You were very actively anti-town whereas I made a joke that was misunderstood and that I immediately, unambiguously clarified when it was brought up.

we both know what you really did there. and what you really intended.

Are you saying we’re scum together?

[damo666]

More like cop-hiding, dicking around to confuse scum.

Brain, ghug and food all come out looking town.

It is reasonable to assume cop got an innocent and therefore remains hidden.

The scum pool is so narrow I am willing to hammer.

##end

There is really no reason to end.

On that I agree with you. There's usually a motivation to end when there's a clear obvious result we'll get. To end with damo's vote on me doesn't look good on them. To then rationalize it with...scummy enough to be the flip...when there's not enough information out there? Bad look damo.

See my reply to food. I think there has to be at least one scum in {you, Bozo, darg} and I think of those you are most likely to be waggoned hence I think my hammer vote is reasonable. I am not pushing it but it's there if wanted. Obviously I know you don't like it.

[dargorygel]

Hey foid... i just thought of something. When did you claim RB? And more to the point, why did you not claim immediately?

I did not claim it immediately because ghug and brain went whole hog right at end of night and I was trying to figure out what the relationship was between what I know was ghug lying and my roleblock. I wanted to be careful not to give too much information that might help scum PR hunt as I suspected they were claim baiting.

but... but... but... THEY RBed you. They know. Town could have found that useful. I sort of get the ghug/brain attack flustering you. But I would think a RB claim would be an early thing to add to the mix.

[dargorygel]

There is really no reason to end.

On that I agree with you. There's usually a motivation to end when there's a clear obvious result we'll get. To end with damo's vote on me doesn't look good on them. To then rationalize it with...scummy enough to be the flip...when there's not enough information out there? Bad look damo.

See my reply to food. I think there has to be at least one scum in {you, Bozo, darg} and I think of those you are most likely to be waggoned hence I think my hammer vote is reasonable. I am not pushing it but it's there if wanted. Obviously I know you don't like it.

TBC... I am on your list because my predecessor didn't vote for Sweet?

[dargorygel]

oh, and
##VOTE FOOD

I can't see a reason to wait to announce RB. The Chaqa school of RB claims (legit or fake) has taught me that it is an immediate claim thing.

[JustAGuyNamedWill]

God, this whole brain situation is so scummy, holy shit.

I don't see it. You think he was fishing for a CC? Do you think he thought the cop WOULD CC immediately with him goofing around?

I have no idea. I think so, given that investigator sacrificing himself to get one more scum killed is definitely an option.

God, it’s just so bad! And everyone townreads him for it!

[JustAGuyNamedWill]

I dont have the interest to get angry over a game. this really isnt personal so if we can go ahead and not do this whole thing thatd be great.

I just wanna have fun and whatever ghug is-was doing is not a coordinated scum move. Thats all I can really say because I dont have a clue why hes doing whatever he is doing.

I think you are scum w bunny and will isnt off my radar either

This is the most interesting thing brainbomb said over this whole row. Normally when brainbomb gets worked up he’ll say something to the effect of “I’m working so hard for town and you guys scumreading me is a personal attack.” Instead he said he just wants to have fun.

I thought brain behaved weird yesterday and this is just even more of it. It is not the usual brain antics because his usual antics do have underlying good efforts and reads. His tunneling me fake doc claiming is madness, his interaction with Chaqa yesterday was weird, and fakeclaiming cop is horrible for town.

##VOTE brainbomb

##VOTE BRAIN

If brainbomb is scum, his play was smart, but unfortunately I see through it.

[JustAGuyNamedWill]

God, this whole brain situation is so scummy, holy shit.

I don't see it. You think he was fishing for a CC? Do you think he thought the cop WOULD CC immediately with him goofing around?

I think Will is just being naive

I think you are being naive. You townread brain, thus making it a valid play as mafia.

[damo666]

On that I agree with you. There's usually a motivation to end when there's a clear obvious result we'll get. To end with damo's vote on me doesn't look good on them. To then rationalize it with...scummy enough to be the flip...when there's not enough information out there? Bad look damo.

See my reply to food. I think there has to be at least one scum in {you, Bozo, darg} and I think of those you are most likely to be waggoned hence I think my hammer vote is reasonable. I am not pushing it but it's there if wanted. Obviously I know you don't like it.

TBC... I am on your list because my predecessor didn't vote for Sweet?

sweet non voters minus townreads therein, heart certainly wasn't but you're getting there and is my weakest of the three

[JustAGuyNamedWill]

Okay, so my severely harmful behavior prompted you to claim to be doctor fraiser crane from a show that hasnt been on tv in 23 years. and then to reveal you were roleblocked also, and you werent softing doc, you just wanted to play the role of doctor frasier crane and act as our therapist for our problems.

got it.

sounds like totally normal behavior to me.

##vote will

Are you saying I’m scummy? If so, why are you voting for Will? Or are you suggesting I am a morally bad person?

You and I are the only ones that see the problems and errs in his GUILTY GUILTY GUILTY play. So he’s voting us.

[damo666]

I don't see it. You think he was fishing for a CC? Do you think he thought the cop WOULD CC immediately with him goofing around?

I think Will is just being naive

I think you are being naive. You townread brain, thus making it a valid play as mafia.

I think it was bad townplay. Bad townplay <> mafia play.

[foodcoats]

Hey foid... i just thought of something. When did you claim RB? And more to the point, why did you not claim immediately?

I did not claim it immediately because ghug and brain went whole hog right at end of night and I was trying to figure out what the relationship was between what I know was ghug lying and my roleblock. I wanted to be careful not to give too much information that might help scum PR hunt as I suspected they were claim baiting.

but... but... but... THEY RBed you. They know. Town could have found that useful. I sort of get the ghug/brain attack flustering you. But I would think a RB claim would be an early thing to add to the mix.

All I can say is I was thinking what the best thing to do was.

[JustAGuyNamedWill]

This is Dr. Foosier Croats… I’m listening.

So chaqa, he says this with two players making a guilty on him. you do not think there is even a 1% chance this is a mafia, going down, faking doc to out the doc on his way down the pipe?

that idea is just something impossible? you dont even wanna contemplate that scum would do this? that if he thinks someone has a guilty on him...

well you go ahead.
you suppose hes not mafia, really thinks one of me or ghug is anti town. and this is not an anti town thing to say, hes actually just casually talking about a sitcom which happens to have a doctor in it.

youre saying this is completely and categorically inadvertant. here? and you stand by that belief?

I have not seen a claim of a guilty scan on Food. I have seen lots of yelling "GUILTY GUILTY GUILTY" and then a conflicting claim.

I have played enough mafia with both you and ghug that I flat out don't believe these types of claims. You will claim it's a reaction test on Food and then say it's as good as a guilty.

If one of you explicitly says you have a guilty on Food, I will vote for him.

If you do not, I will not.

Same. But they don’t. Because they don’t, because they aren’t the cop.

[JustAGuyNamedWill]

how many more data points do you need
he hardsided with the scum godfather
voted alongside the scum godfather
tried desperately to SAVE the scum godfather
was scummy the entire day 1?!
made awkward defenses of sweets HEDGING on bunny??

now all this?

how many more data points do you need. like seriously.

And you vote me. Probably to scare me, or bait me, or something.

[foodcoats]

oh, and
##VOTE FOOD

I can't see a reason to wait to announce RB. The Chaqa school of RB claims (legit or fake) has taught me that it is an immediate claim thing.

Are there any other reasons you scumread me, or just the RB?

[JustAGuyNamedWill]

when I kept saying guilty, I had been watching alot of 90s sitcoms about courtrooms. I just wanted to use the word guilty alot because matlock is really special to me. it was never a cop soft. I just really wish matlock would be a mainstay in the american household.

matlock really matters to me alot. Im sorry if my repeatedly loving matlock confused you into thinking I was cop

Lol

[JustAGuyNamedWill]

Hey foid... i just thought of something. When did you claim RB? And more to the point, why did you not claim immediately?

Good point.