Mafia 86: Accidents Happen... - Game Thread

[dargorygel]

This is Dr. Foosier Croats… I’m listening.

Youre gonna claim now that you didnt try to out the doctor here? And that this wasnt prompted by your concern maybe me or
Ghug really had a scan on you.

How is this pro town?

Isnt that your main argument is that our play was anti town?

This is what a caught wolf does in desperation to flush the doc out for their last teammate

No, this was me making a joke based on the similarities between my username and the titular protagonist of the popular 90s sitcom Fraser, to needle you and ghug by suggesting you need psychiatric help.

However, it’s important you brought this up, because I had thought you were doc-reading me for another reason. And since Chaqa asked…

I was roleblocked.

I thought that scum!brain had hypothesized in the scum chat that I was doctor, as the more logical inference seemed to be to think I was going to claim cop, and I found the focus on doc bizarre… unless brain had convinced himself I was doc and therefore RBd me.

This makes brain ever so slightly less scummy.

Why? You wouldn't have been RBed for a particular PR, right?

[foodcoats]

I mean, you've outed yourself as town in response to our tomfoolery, so I consider it good for town.

Brain doesn't agree, but alas.

Can you confirm you are saying you are NOT the cop?

Why do you think the way I responded was scummy and not townie?

Why are you PR hunting? ghug obviously won't answer

Well, review the math I posted above. If the cop actually had a guilty scan there would be no reason to withhold it. I wasn’t PR hunting, I was testing to see if ghug was fakeclaiming scum, because a real town cop with a guilty scan can greatly simplify things for town and there is no benefit to holding the scan to EON2.

[foodcoats]

Youre gonna claim now that you didnt try to out the doctor here? And that this wasnt prompted by your concern maybe me or
Ghug really had a scan on you.

How is this pro town?

Isnt that your main argument is that our play was anti town?

This is what a caught wolf does in desperation to flush the doc out for their last teammate

No, this was me making a joke based on the similarities between my username and the titular protagonist of the popular 90s sitcom Fraser, to needle you and ghug by suggesting you need psychiatric help.

However, it’s important you brought this up, because I had thought you were doc-reading me for another reason. And since Chaqa asked…

I was roleblocked.

I thought that scum!brain had hypothesized in the scum chat that I was doctor, as the more logical inference seemed to be to think I was going to claim cop, and I found the focus on doc bizarre… unless brain had convinced himself I was doc and therefore RBd me.

This makes brain ever so slightly less scummy.

Why? You wouldn't have been RBed for a particular PR, right?

I would’ve been RBd because scum think I have a PR, and brain is the sort of person who will go in circles convincing himself of something. No reason he wouldn’t do that as scum and try to sort PRs, and have it accidentally bleed over into his posts.

[dargorygel]

No, this was me making a joke based on the similarities between my username and the titular protagonist of the popular 90s sitcom Fraser, to needle you and ghug by suggesting you need psychiatric help.

However, it’s important you brought this up, because I had thought you were doc-reading me for another reason. And since Chaqa asked…

I was roleblocked.

I thought that scum!brain had hypothesized in the scum chat that I was doctor, as the more logical inference seemed to be to think I was going to claim cop, and I found the focus on doc bizarre… unless brain had convinced himself I was doc and therefore RBd me.

This makes brain ever so slightly less scummy.

Why? You wouldn't have been RBed for a particular PR, right?

I would’ve been RBd because scum think I have a PR, and brain is the sort of person who will go in circles convincing himself of something. No reason he wouldn’t do that as scum and try to sort PRs, and have it accidentally bleed over into his posts.

Were you RBed?

[dargorygel]

Can you confirm you are saying you are NOT the cop?

Why do you think the way I responded was scummy and not townie?

Why are you PR hunting? ghug obviously won't answer

Well, review the math I posted above. If the cop actually had a guilty scan there would be no reason to withhold it. I wasn’t PR hunting, I was testing to see if ghug was fakeclaiming scum, because a real town cop with a guilty scan can greatly simplify things for town and there is no benefit to holding the scan to EON2.

It seems to me that ghug was fake fake-claiming. Does that make a difference to you? Innuendo is not fake claiming. I also still don't see that he was faking a claim on YOU, until you responded to him. He implied (maybe) your guilt because you pushed back on him. That is how I read the sequence of events.

[brainbomb]

Okay, so my severely harmful behavior prompted you to claim to be doctor fraiser crane from a show that hasnt been on tv in 23 years. and then to reveal you were roleblocked also, and you werent softing doc, you just wanted to play the role of doctor frasier crane and act as our therapist for our problems.

got it.

sounds like totally normal behavior to me.

##vote will

[foodcoats]

Why? You wouldn't have been RBed for a particular PR, right?

I would’ve been RBd because scum think I have a PR, and brain is the sort of person who will go in circles convincing himself of something. No reason he wouldn’t do that as scum and try to sort PRs, and have it accidentally bleed over into his posts.

Were you RBed?

Yes, as I said above in the post you quoted.

[Frogsterking]

Anyone role blocked will be sent a "You were Roleblocked!" message,

Yes, non-PR targets will receive that message.

A saved person will be notified they woke up with a bunch of bandages on them (something like that - don't quote me yet)

A cop will be told the alignment of the scanned individual. Reminder - the Godfather role scans as town.

We have an uncc roleblocked claim lol, that's kind of cool.

[foodcoats]

Why are you PR hunting? ghug obviously won't answer

Well, review the math I posted above. If the cop actually had a guilty scan there would be no reason to withhold it. I wasn’t PR hunting, I was testing to see if ghug was fakeclaiming scum, because a real town cop with a guilty scan can greatly simplify things for town and there is no benefit to holding the scan to EON2.

It seems to me that ghug was fake fake-claiming. Does that make a difference to you? Innuendo is not fake claiming. I also still don't see that he was faking a claim on YOU, until you responded to him. He implied (maybe) your guilt because you pushed back on him. That is how I read the sequence of events.

Ghug said he had a guilty scan and then voted for me. Bozo also jumped on that wagon. Since I know my alignment and ghug cannot possibly have a guilty scan on me, I fought back.

[foodcoats]

Okay, so my severely harmful behavior prompted you to claim to be doctor fraiser crane from a show that hasnt been on tv in 23 years. and then to reveal you were roleblocked also, and you werent softing doc, you just wanted to play the role of doctor frasier crane and act as our therapist for our problems.

got it.

sounds like totally normal behavior to me.

##vote will

Are you saying I’m scummy? If so, why are you voting for Will? Or are you suggesting I am a morally bad person?

[damo666]

Can you confirm you are saying you are NOT the cop?

Why do you think the way I responded was scummy and not townie?

Why are you PR hunting? ghug obviously won't answer

Well, review the math I posted above. If the cop actually had a guilty scan there would be no reason to withhold it. I wasn’t PR hunting, I was testing to see if ghug was fakeclaiming scum, because a real town cop with a guilty scan can greatly simplify things for town and there is no benefit to holding the scan to EON2.

Yes given the GF is dead a cop with a guilty scan should obviously claim. The fact neither ghug (nor brain) explicitly claimed cop with a specific guilty target indicated they were messing about (either as scum or mischievous town but let's just leave it as nai). Now it is possible ghug is cop with an inno scan so asking him to confirm he is not cop is not helpful to town but is helpful to scum. So obviously ghug won't answer regardless of alignment.

[dargorygel]

I would’ve been RBd because scum think I have a PR, and brain is the sort of person who will go in circles convincing himself of something. No reason he wouldn’t do that as scum and try to sort PRs, and have it accidentally bleed over into his posts.

Were you RBed?

Yes, as I said above in the post you quoted.

I was referring this last post where you say, " I would've been RBed..." In my ears suddenly that sounded like you had moved back from what DID happen to what MIGHT have happened. You probably were simply using the verb tense I used. But it sounded odd to me.

[brainbomb]

No, this was me making a joke based on the similarities between my username and the titular protagonist of the popular 90s sitcom Fraser, to needle you and ghug by suggesting you need psychiatric help.

However, it’s important you brought this up, because I had thought you were doc-reading me for another reason. And since Chaqa asked…

I was roleblocked.

I thought that scum!brain had hypothesized in the scum chat that I was doctor, as the more logical inference seemed to be to think I was going to claim cop, and I found the focus on doc bizarre… unless brain had convinced himself I was doc and therefore RBd me.

This makes brain ever so slightly less scummy.

[brainbomb]

Okay, so my severely harmful behavior prompted you to claim to be doctor fraiser crane from a show that hasnt been on tv in 23 years. and then to reveal you were roleblocked also, and you werent softing doc, you just wanted to play the role of doctor frasier crane and act as our therapist for our problems.

got it.

sounds like totally normal behavior to me.

##vote will

Are you saying I’m scummy? If so, why are you voting for Will? Or are you suggesting I am a morally bad person?

Im just over it at this point. you could be holding a machine gun standing over 11 bodies riddled with bullets, and this town gallery would look at that and think, well yea, but, look at Hamilton over there, hes so quiet and stuff

[Frogsterking]

No, this was me making a joke based on the similarities between my username and the titular protagonist of the popular 90s sitcom Fraser, to needle you and ghug by suggesting you need psychiatric help.

However, it’s important you brought this up, because I had thought you were doc-reading me for another reason. And since Chaqa asked…

I was roleblocked.

I thought that scum!brain had hypothesized in the scum chat that I was doctor, as the more logical inference seemed to be to think I was going to claim cop, and I found the focus on doc bizarre… unless brain had convinced himself I was doc and therefore RBd me.

This makes brain ever so slightly less scummy.

LOL

[damo666]

Anyone role blocked will be sent a "You were Roleblocked!" message,

Yes, non-PR targets will receive that message.

A saved person will be notified they woke up with a bunch of bandages on them (something like that - don't quote me yet)

A cop will be told the alignment of the scanned individual. Reminder - the Godfather role scans as town.

We have an uncc roleblocked claim lol, that's kind of cool.

yeah, we have to assume food is town (which I already was), obviously it would be great to get a cc but doubt we will!

RB of limited use to scum now isn't it?

[dargorygel]

Well, review the math I posted above. If the cop actually had a guilty scan there would be no reason to withhold it. I wasn’t PR hunting, I was testing to see if ghug was fakeclaiming scum, because a real town cop with a guilty scan can greatly simplify things for town and there is no benefit to holding the scan to EON2.

It seems to me that ghug was fake fake-claiming. Does that make a difference to you? Innuendo is not fake claiming. I also still don't see that he was faking a claim on YOU, until you responded to him. He implied (maybe) your guilt because you pushed back on him. That is how I read the sequence of events.

Ghug said he had a guilty scan and then voted for me. Bozo also jumped on that wagon. Since I know my alignment and ghug cannot possibly have a guilty scan on me, I fought back.

See. the word 'then' is the problem for me. Because I don't see him as claiming, really... i see that he voted you for other reasons. And bozo's jumping on, because I don't expect Bozo to have thought the claim was sincere, would be for other reasons.

Reasons that they have stated elsewhere?
And therefore (with respect) it feeeeeeels to me that you are avoiding their real reasons for voting for you. I do not expect you to agree, having read your arguments. I just think you are barking (or defending) the wrong tree.

[foodcoats]

Why are you PR hunting? ghug obviously won't answer

Well, review the math I posted above. If the cop actually had a guilty scan there would be no reason to withhold it. I wasn’t PR hunting, I was testing to see if ghug was fakeclaiming scum, because a real town cop with a guilty scan can greatly simplify things for town and there is no benefit to holding the scan to EON2.

Yes given the GF is dead a cop with a guilty scan should obviously claim. The fact neither ghug (nor brain) explicitly claimed cop with a specific guilty target indicated they were messing about (either as scum or mischievous town but let's just leave it as nai). Now it is possible ghug is cop with an inno scan so asking him to confirm he is not cop is not helpful to town but is helpful to scum. So obviously ghug won't answer regardless of alignment.

At this point there is nothing more to be made of it. I have resolved to listen to my town reads closely going forward to avoid tilt towards brain and ghug. My strongest towns are BunnyGo and Frogster. I think you are town, too.

[dargorygel]

Anyone role blocked will be sent a "You were Roleblocked!" message,

Yes, non-PR targets will receive that message.

A saved person will be notified they woke up with a bunch of bandages on them (something like that - don't quote me yet)

A cop will be told the alignment of the scanned individual. Reminder - the Godfather role scans as town.

We have an uncc roleblocked claim lol, that's kind of cool.

yeah, we have to assume food is town (which I already was), obviously it would be great to get a cc but doubt we will!

RB of limited use to scum now isn't it?

Amid the growing discontent with the food at our table, damo... why do you townread him? (my gut does, too...) Have you understood the statements against his townveracity?

[foodcoats]

No, this was me making a joke based on the similarities between my username and the titular protagonist of the popular 90s sitcom Fraser, to needle you and ghug by suggesting you need psychiatric help.

However, it’s important you brought this up, because I had thought you were doc-reading me for another reason. And since Chaqa asked…

I was roleblocked.

I thought that scum!brain had hypothesized in the scum chat that I was doctor, as the more logical inference seemed to be to think I was going to claim cop, and I found the focus on doc bizarre… unless brain had convinced himself I was doc and therefore RBd me.

This makes brain ever so slightly less scummy.

Stepping out of the game for a minute, a good friend in highschool always called me Niles. I should change my avatar.