Mafia 86: Accidents Happen... - Game Thread

[foodcoats]

@foodcoats
@ghug

#1 what haven't you shared yet about your D1 relationship to any of the Sweet wagoners?
#2 how did the formation of the sweet wagon affect your reads EoD1?
#3 Is there anything I should ask you that I'm missing?

Answer my questions first ye knave.

[JustAGuyNamedWill]

I think most sensible people have accepted that if theres two bussers on sweet, brainbomb is the best person to nightkill here

If you get Nighkilled tonight I will honestly eat my hat.

[brainbomb]

I think most sensible people have accepted that if theres two bussers on sweet, brainbomb is the best person to nightkill here

If you get Nighkilled tonight I will honestly eat my hat.

you probably dont even own a hat

[Vecna]

Darg, did you have to replace into a scumslot?

[Vecna]

you know right?

You know that I know?

right?

[worcej]

GM Note:
Consider this a formal announcement that the following things are not to be done during the game:

1. Editing the names in a post quote
2. Editing the contents of a post after it is made

I won't use any names, but you know who you are. Stop doing these things.

[JustAGuyNamedWill]

I think most sensible people have accepted that if theres two bussers on sweet, brainbomb is the best person to nightkill here

If you get Nighkilled tonight I will honestly eat my hat.

you probably dont even own a hat

+town point just cuz

[ghug]

@ghug
@darg

#1

How did the sweet (godfather) elimination affect your plans for this game?

#2

Is there any possibility ghug was distancing from sweet d1 and didn't actually want to kill sweet?

#3

What have you noticed about each other that you haven't shared?

#1 I'm emotionally preparing myself for a bunch of miskills and eventual town apathy?
#2 No, but I wouldn't fault anyone for considering the possibility given how things went down.
#3 Darg always says I'm talking a lot without saying anything and it really hurts my feelings.

Why lump darg and me together?

[dargorygel]

After some more consideration im sad to note that I did not really like that Darg post.

Me too... why didn’t you?
For me, i crammed resding in the time I had, and ended up with a bunch of noted. I wanted, perhaps foolishly, to post SOMETHING... so I rambled.

[JustAGuyNamedWill]

@ghug
@darg

#1

How did the sweet (godfather) elimination affect your plans for this game?

#2

Is there any possibility ghug was distancing from sweet d1 and didn't actually want to kill sweet?

#3

What have you noticed about each other that you haven't shared?

#1 I'm emotionally preparing myself for a bunch of miskills and eventual town apathy?
#2 No, but I wouldn't fault anyone for considering the possibility given how things went down.
#3 Darg always says I'm talking a lot without saying anything and it really hurts my feelings.

Why lump darg and me together?

If I am alive at that point I will make sure town doesn’t become apathetic

[JustAGuyNamedWill]

you know right?

You know that I know?

right?

What? Did heart scumslip? Or darg? Explain por favor

[Vecna]

I hope im wrong and its just because you got put in a rough replacement slot, and felt obliged to try to participate.

Im sure itll all be better tomorrow.

[dargorygel]

@ghug
@darg

#1

How did the sweet (godfather) elimination affect your plans for this game?

#2

Is there any possibility ghug was distancing from sweet d1 and didn't actually want to kill sweet?

#3

What have you noticed about each other that you haven't shared?

#1 I'm emotionally preparing myself for a bunch of miskills and eventual town apathy?
#2 No, but I wouldn't fault anyone for considering the possibility given how things went down.
#3 Darg always says I'm talking a lot without saying anything and it really hurts my feelings.

Why lump darg and me together?

Yeah, I do, ghug. I think it's because I expect you to be end-of-gsme-ish. At the beginning-of-game.

[ghug]

I meant to say townreading. How is brain town??!?

He's just the right amount of crazy.

So you townread brain? Why?

He's just the right amount of crazy. I see a strong desire to solve without any total breakdown under pressure.

[JustAGuyNamedWill]

I hope im wrong and its just because you got put in a rough replacement slot, and felt obliged to try to participate.

Im sure itll all be better tomorrow.

Explain, please? Pretty please with sweetandcool on top?

[foodcoats]

Nowhere, in any of this, does Frogster give a reason for scumreading Sweetandcool. He just magically does. Apparently Sweet is so easy for Frogster to read that he suspects him from Page 1 without ever giving a reason why.

That's a town tell; I'm on the good side of reads vs reasons, I'm thinking about my reads and verbalizing what I want to happen rather than the other way around. If you don't look for that then you should start doing so, you will find more scum and have more fun.

I like explanations. I like people to justify their scumreads, especially if they claim to hold them as strongly as you were doing here.

Plus can you address the apparent inconsistency in saying he was different and saying he was the same?

To add to this frog, now is your chance to explain those thoughts you didn’t write before so we can understand.

[damo666]

I still suspect everyone to some degree, because I am not very confident on anyone being town.

scumslip

Could you Explain? I dont see how.

anyone includes himself

[foodcoats]

Its easy to come up with reasons why people could have acted the way they did.

Its about figuring out which is the actual thing that happened.

I know we generally clash every game (and its sort of a big ass distraction to me right now) - but I think it would benefit us both if you accept my answers at face value for now and believe me.

It only benefits us both if you are town.

Can you put the 6 of us who did not vote for sweetandcool in the order you think we are likely to be mafia?

im not considering Ghug and Chaqas vote a serious vote on Sleep, so ill even include those.

Also, my opinions of people are currently changing rather rapidly.

Least likely scum:
Brainbomb

foodcoats (not based on personal reads - I still hold on to my earlier gut theyre town)
jamiet

Darg
Ghug/Chaqa

HB
most likely scum ^


Im still waffling on where id put you (bozo) in that list.

Yeah I think HB is very likely scum

[Frogsterking]

Damo, will and I are obvious town by pretty much any standard of measurement.

Vecna is probably town because of their position on the d1 wagons.

Hamilton brian and foodcoat are probably town who scum want to use as cannon fodder. Town lean both.

Brain and jamie are town on play. I'm a little more skeptical of brain because I don't know how strong their scum range is, I have brain as town lean though.

Bozo and bunny are town based on play, I'm not super confident on either but I'm at least confident enough to keep out of my kill list. I think they are just fancy play style townies so kind of hard to read but still +town.

-kill below here-

Chaqa
Garg
Ghug

I have chaqa at null. I'm skeptical enough to be worth limming them. The thing with chaqa is that their wagon position is pretty good, so to believe chaqa is scum then you need to believe chaqa!scum is willing to throw sweet under the bus in cold blood. I think it's a possibility so I think they are worth eliminating.

Garg and ghug I think are scum. Heart was scummy D1 based on play and ghug was incredibly suspicious and opportunistic the way they played around sweet and bunny with not only their words but most importantly, their votes. I think heart missed the deadline so scum didn't have the numbers to prevent the flashwagon on sweet. I think ghug was trying to distance from sweet D1 and didn't actually want to kill them. At the last possible second ghug threw their vote onto sweet because ghug didn't want to let the godfather be eliminated without milking town cred from the flip.

[foodcoats]

I am really struggling to townread people this game. I'm not that interested in pursuing Will or Frog anytime soon even if there are little doubts, and my townreads on Chaqa and brain persist, but that's about it.

Why are so many people townreading brain? Am I missing something??

I meant to say townreading. How is brain town??!?

Is the main reason you scum read brain because he advanced the possibility that you might be scum?