Mafia 86: Accidents Happen... - Game Thread

[Vecna]

I guess scum is preparing to kill me so they can all feign shocked pikachu faces after the flip

Theyre all coming out of the woodworks

[ghug]

There are some branches of Chipotle in the UK now.

There was one near my hotel in London last week. But I went for pasta instead.

Chipotle is good. Basically all US based fast food tastes good. Try it sometime! You’ll be happy.

I don't consider Chipotle to be fast food. I'd say the only fast food place that tastes any good on the east coast at least is Chick-fil-a.

Chipotle is "fast casual" which means "fast food that's trying a little harder to have nice vibes".

Y'all don't have Taco del Mar out there, which is a real crime.

[ghug]

There are some branches of Chipotle in the UK now.

There was one near my hotel in London last week. But I went for pasta instead.

I haven't actually been to Chipotle in awhile. I just checked my app, and I was last there on January 3, and that's the only time I've gone since Christmas. We've been trying to save money for when the baby comes, but I do have some gift cards, so I think I know where I'm going for lunch.

Chaqa: Visits Chipotle on 25th December, 3rd January, and 8th February.

Also Chaqa: "I don't go to Chipotle very often".

Lol. There isn't a single restaurant I've been to more than twice since Xmas. Going to the same place more than once a month, for me, is often.

What about the pub?

[Chaqa]

I haven't actually been to Chipotle in awhile. I just checked my app, and I was last there on January 3, and that's the only time I've gone since Christmas. We've been trying to save money for when the baby comes, but I do have some gift cards, so I think I know where I'm going for lunch.

Chaqa: Visits Chipotle on 25th December, 3rd January, and 8th February.

Also Chaqa: "I don't go to Chipotle very often".

Lol. There isn't a single restaurant I've been to more than twice since Xmas. Going to the same place more than once a month, for me, is often.

What about the pub?

I haven't actually been to Chipotle in awhile. I just checked my app, and I was last there on January 3, and that's the only time I've gone since Christmas. We've been trying to save money for when the baby comes, but I do have some gift cards, so I think I know where I'm going for lunch.

Chaqa: Visits Chipotle on 25th December, 3rd January, and 8th February.

Also Chaqa: "I don't go to Chipotle very often".

Lol. There isn't a single restaurant I've been to more than twice since Xmas. Going to the same place more than once a month, for me, is often.

Does that change if we include bars/taverns/pubs (idk if these are the same or different in the UK)?

I mean, shit, I go to Wawa like 2-3 times a week

Vecna might be on to something, ghug

[ghug]

I've not had Five Guys as I don't eat beef

For religion or just personal choice?

Beef has always tasted and smelled bad to me since I was a kid. Nowadays I basically don't eat any meat besides chicken and turkey, and even those I kinda feel conflicted on morally.

I like this urbanist, proto-vegetarian Chaqa.

[ghug]

Ghug, can you explain the different stances? This is you 1h before eod

But after the flip you said you shouldve followed your gut.

Did you really have a gut feeling of sweet being scum, but then you publically announce you dislike his wagon badly?

Yes, I announced the gut read of sweet and it was talked about a lot. I took my foot off the gas a little bit because nothing had corroborated that one moment and bozo pointed out that I'd only actually caught him that way once, but you can also see I still liked the wagon, just less than some others.

The quoted post implies you liked the Bunny wagon more than the Sweet wagon (because you didn't call out a dislike for the Bunny wagon, and your vote was on it for a time).

Why didn't you just stay on Bunny?

It's already been discussed a bit, but I always do this. I feel a little bit of joy having been on the wagon when we get it right, and there's some small expected value gain in tie prevention.

[ghug]

Wasn't there someone that used to duck out of games and get a sub when they drew scum?

Very sus that Chaqa hasn't demanded we swing the subs yet.

I've never had a particular anti-sub stance

You like to joke about it, though.

[ghug]

For religion or just personal choice?

Beef has always tasted and smelled bad to me since I was a kid. Nowadays I basically don't eat any meat besides chicken and turkey, and even those I kinda feel conflicted on morally.

I like this urbanist, proto-vegetarian Chaqa.

Chaqa: Visits Chipotle on 25th December, 3rd January, and 8th February.

Also Chaqa: "I don't go to Chipotle very often".

Lol. There isn't a single restaurant I've been to more than twice since Xmas. Going to the same place more than once a month, for me, is often.

What about the pub?

Chaqa: Visits Chipotle on 25th December, 3rd January, and 8th February.

Also Chaqa: "I don't go to Chipotle very often".

Lol. There isn't a single restaurant I've been to more than twice since Xmas. Going to the same place more than once a month, for me, is often.

Does that change if we include bars/taverns/pubs (idk if these are the same or different in the UK)?

I mean, shit, I go to Wawa like 2-3 times a week

Vecna might be on to something, ghug

Yeah I'm worried.

[Jamiet99uk]

Does that mean you're scum?

Bit late now eh Ghug?

[Jamiet99uk]

I haven't actually been to Chipotle in awhile. I just checked my app, and I was last there on January 3, and that's the only time I've gone since Christmas. We've been trying to save money for when the baby comes, but I do have some gift cards, so I think I know where I'm going for lunch.

Chaqa: Visits Chipotle on 25th December, 3rd January, and 8th February.

Also Chaqa: "I don't go to Chipotle very often".

Lol. There isn't a single restaurant I've been to more than twice since Xmas. Going to the same place more than once a month, for me, is often.

What about the pub?

The pubs I go to mostly don't serve food.

[Jamiet99uk]

I haven't actually been to Chipotle in awhile. I just checked my app, and I was last there on January 3, and that's the only time I've gone since Christmas. We've been trying to save money for when the baby comes, but I do have some gift cards, so I think I know where I'm going for lunch.

Chaqa: Visits Chipotle on 25th December, 3rd January, and 8th February.

Also Chaqa: "I don't go to Chipotle very often".

Lol. There isn't a single restaurant I've been to more than twice since Xmas. Going to the same place more than once a month, for me, is often.

Does that change if we include bars/taverns/pubs (idk if these are the same or different in the UK)?

I mean, shit, I go to Wawa like 2-3 times a week

I missed you asking me but noticed Ghug's question, sorry.

I go to the same 3-4 pubs two or three times a week, it's true.

[Jamiet99uk]

Yes, I announced the gut read of sweet and it was talked about a lot. I took my foot off the gas a little bit because nothing had corroborated that one moment and bozo pointed out that I'd only actually caught him that way once, but you can also see I still liked the wagon, just less than some others.

The quoted post implies you liked the Bunny wagon more than the Sweet wagon (because you didn't call out a dislike for the Bunny wagon, and your vote was on it for a time).

Why didn't you just stay on Bunny?

It's already been discussed a bit, but I always do this. I feel a little bit of joy having been on the wagon when we get it right, and there's some small expected value gain in tie prevention.

Did you believe the vote to be tied at the point you voted?

[ghug]

Chaqa: Visits Chipotle on 25th December, 3rd January, and 8th February.

Also Chaqa: "I don't go to Chipotle very often".

Lol. There isn't a single restaurant I've been to more than twice since Xmas. Going to the same place more than once a month, for me, is often.

What about the pub?

The pubs I go to mostly don't serve food.

Beer is calories.

[ghug]

The quoted post implies you liked the Bunny wagon more than the Sweet wagon (because you didn't call out a dislike for the Bunny wagon, and your vote was on it for a time).

Why didn't you just stay on Bunny?

It's already been discussed a bit, but I always do this. I feel a little bit of joy having been on the wagon when we get it right, and there's some small expected value gain in tie prevention.

Did you believe the vote to be tied at the point you voted?

No. I piled on once I believed the vote to be settled.

[damo666]

There are some branches of Chipotle in the UK now.

There was one near my hotel in London last week. But I went for pasta instead.

I haven't actually been to Chipotle in awhile. I just checked my app, and I was last there on January 3, and that's the only time I've gone since Christmas. We've been trying to save money for when the baby comes, but I do have some gift cards, so I think I know where I'm going for lunch.

Chaqa: Visits Chipotle on 25th December, 3rd January, and 8th February.

Also Chaqa: "I don't go to Chipotle very often".

Lol. There isn't a single restaurant I've been to more than twice since Xmas. Going to the same place more than once a month, for me, is often.

I bet there's a pub you go to more than once a month.

[damo666]

Chipotle is good. Basically all US based fast food tastes good. Try it sometime! You’ll be happy.

I don't consider Chipotle to be fast food. I'd say the only fast food place that tastes any good on the east coast at least is Chick-fil-a.

Ever tried five guys? Love it.

Or do you mean East Coast Britain? Idk if thats even a thing

Fish and chips

[JustAGuyNamedWill]

So fries=chips

Chips=crisps

[JustAGuyNamedWill]

Also @brain

My mood outside the game directly correlates to my mood inside the game. I guess there is no way to prove it, but that’s the truth.

[bozotheclown]

Also, im just going to pre-empt this with my reasoning for my vote on sweet there, since I think you should also not totally exclude me from the potential bussers.....

In my last readslist I did mention my 4 scum candidates, damo being one of them, and sweet as my hardest to read person in the game.

My reasons to still switch to sweetandcool there over damo:
1: wagon composition, bunny+will+frog (all my favorite townreads) were on it, and had made some compelling arguments.
2: I know ive been fooled by sweet and cool in the past before. While reading some of the sweetandcool posts I actually felt he was slightly more on the towny side, but I actively decided to ignore that feeling and not comment on it since it wasnt good enough of a reason since ive been fooled by that exact play in the past.
3: I know I always tend to wrongly scumread Damo D1. He hardly ever is scum when he appears pretty disinterested. Also, it was Chaqa and ghug voting that wagon.
4: I was never gonna vote bunny to begin with, but his wagon composition was filled with potential scum. (I dont feel foodcoats belongs to that group, but plenty of people scumread him and I need to consider I -could- be wrong in my townread).

Anyways, thisll probably sound completely unneeded to most of you. My vote came at the critical moment to swing the vote to sweetandcool anyway. But at least ive given my reasoning now, so that way if i do somehow survive till later days people wont swing back to re-evaluating my vote from a different light (because it can also be explained from some scum pov im sure).

When has sweetandcool had the opportunity to fool you in the past?

I dno when it was, but there was a game where I was townreading him all game and he turned out scum playing a very formidable game.

It stung particularly, because I have fond memories of Sweet's first game on this website, where everyone scumread him all game, but I knew he was town, and I protected him all game from getting killed.

People are clearly more zoned in on his current meta than I am, so I decided to sheep.

Its also a more personal choice on playstyle, as ive decided to be less ego-driven in my reads. My reads have not been as stellar in the last bunch of games ive played, so better to pay more attention to people I feel I can trust.

Maybe you are confusing him with someone else, unless you are talking about a different site, because you were not in sweetandcool's first game here or in either of the previous games where he was mafia.

[bozotheclown]

Where / when did he do this?

Can you quote the post?

Page 55

Ah right sorry I was only looking at his D1.

Here it was:

Here are the players I suspect:

brainbomb: Tried to protect sweetandcool, and moved off of foodcoats as soon as I put foodcoats in the lead, so possibly bussing foodcoats.

Bozotheclown: Everybody is scum, everybody is scum, everybody is scum, ##ERROR501 BAD READLIST ERROR##

BunnyGo: Willing to vote for any alternative to his own wagon, moved to sweetandcool at a time he would get credit for bussing, sweetandcool could have been bussing him all D1, and sweetandcool did not PR claim with BunnyGo as the counter wagon.

Chaqa: Tried to protect sweetandcool, said he would not vote for sweetandcool, then voted for sweetandcool while he could still get some bussing credit.

damo: Voting for BunnyGo for not changing his vote when sweetandcool also had not changed his vote and had been voting longer could indicate a fabricated reason for the BunnyGo vote, then when sweetandcool brought it up as possible distancing, damo voted for sweetandcool, then returned to vote for sweetandcool at a time that would maximize bussing credit.

foodcoats: Tried to protect sweetandcool, more obviously than scum would normally do to protect teammates, but that's what makes it a good scum play.

Frogsterking: Returned in time to possibly hard bus sweetandcool for vague reasons.

ghug: Possibly bussed sweetandcool early with the factually incorrect claim that he was 2 for 2 at identifying sweetandcool as mafia, moved his vote around to keep the wagons close to possibly copy his town play, then returned to sweetandcool when the vote was decided.

Hamilton: Low level defense of sweetandcool as EOD.

heart: He always votes as town.

Jamie: Hard to believe he did not understand my comment on Vecna.

Just: Possibly decided to bus sweetandcool early this time.

Vecna: Returned in time to vote for sweetandcool at a time that would maximize bussing credit.

@Bozo: This read list is silly. Why did you create it? Who are your actual scumreads, please?

I still suspect everyone to some degree, because I am not very confident on anyone being town.