Mafia 86: Accidents Happen... - Game Thread

[damo666]

Do you consider ghug a sweet voter?

Yes

Why?

Because he did.

I've already said I consider ghug and Chaqa the only plausible bussers but I doubt either of them are. I suppose it's vaguely possible Will and or Frog got trapped in a bus but would seem strange play. I'm confident both the other scum were off sweet.

[BunnyGo]

Yes

Why?

Because he did.

I've already said I consider ghug and Chaqa the only plausible bussers but I doubt either of them are. I suppose it's vaguely possible Will and or Frog got trapped in a bus but would seem strange play. I'm confident both the other scum were off sweet.

He voted the other viable wagon until literally the last second. That’s not bussing.

[damo666]

Why?

Because he did.

I've already said I consider ghug and Chaqa the only plausible bussers but I doubt either of them are. I suppose it's vaguely possible Will and or Frog got trapped in a bus but would seem strange play. I'm confident both the other scum were off sweet.

He voted the other viable wagon until literally the last second. That’s not bussing.

Why would he bother as scum?

[BunnyGo]

Because he did.

I've already said I consider ghug and Chaqa the only plausible bussers but I doubt either of them are. I suppose it's vaguely possible Will and or Frog got trapped in a bus but would seem strange play. I'm confident both the other scum were off sweet.

He voted the other viable wagon until literally the last second. That’s not bussing.

Why would he bother as scum?

Because he literally does it to avoid ties every game as town. And it was over.

[BunnyGo]

He voted the other viable wagon until literally the last second. That’s not bussing.

Why would he bother as scum?

Because he literally does it to avoid ties every game as town. And it was over.

A 2 vote lead with 10 seconds left. Nobody is switching to create a tie.

[foodcoats]

I've been chewing on this a little bit. Clearly they hate each other, but what do you do if you're scum with the person you dislike?

Obviously I can’t prove this to anyone else at the moment, but when sweet did his big dive on Bunny, he could’ve done it on me (Bunny and I were top wagons), and I know I’m town. I just can’t see why sweet would do that if Bunny is scum unless he was really upset in some way and deliberately going against wincon. The rest of his iso was vague enough that he could have basically written the same thing about Bunny about me instead.

He’s bussed hard in the past. Claims that he actively forgets his teammates and hunts.

There’s been a few posts now where you’ve dissuaded people from townreading you. I find that a bit weird… but I’ll think on that more I guess.

[foodcoats]

Obviously I can’t prove this to anyone else at the moment, but when sweet did his big dive on Bunny, he could’ve done it on me (Bunny and I were top wagons), and I know I’m town. I just can’t see why sweet would do that if Bunny is scum unless he was really upset in some way and deliberately going against wincon. The rest of his iso was vague enough that he could have basically written the same thing about Bunny about me instead.

He’s bussed hard in the past. Claims that he actively forgets his teammates and hunts.

There’s been a few posts now where you’ve dissuaded people from townreading you. I find that a bit weird… but I’ll think on that more I guess.

Actually, here’s why this is weird, from my perspective. When I’m town I’m glad to get townread because I can then focus on hunting. When I’m mafia I’m interested in actively bolstering myself as town. And saying, “Now, now, I could be scum!” is the sort of thing that is really scummy to say, because for town, pretty much everyone COULD be scum, but a scum might say it because it might feel like pointing it out is townie.

Not feeling as good about Bunny now.

[BunnyGo]

Obviously I can’t prove this to anyone else at the moment, but when sweet did his big dive on Bunny, he could’ve done it on me (Bunny and I were top wagons), and I know I’m town. I just can’t see why sweet would do that if Bunny is scum unless he was really upset in some way and deliberately going against wincon. The rest of his iso was vague enough that he could have basically written the same thing about Bunny about me instead.

He’s bussed hard in the past. Claims that he actively forgets his teammates and hunts.

There’s been a few posts now where you’ve dissuaded people from townreading you. I find that a bit weird… but I’ll think on that more I guess.

Just being honest. Want people to townread me for the right reasons. Town reading me for incorrect reasons is building a house on sand and is too ephemeral.

[BunnyGo]

He’s bussed hard in the past. Claims that he actively forgets his teammates and hunts.

There’s been a few posts now where you’ve dissuaded people from townreading you. I find that a bit weird… but I’ll think on that more I guess.

Actually, here’s why this is weird, from my perspective. When I’m town I’m glad to get townread because I can then focus on hunting. When I’m mafia I’m interested in actively bolstering myself as town. And saying, “Now, now, I could be scum!” is the sort of thing that is really scummy to say, because for town, pretty much everyone COULD be scum, but a scum might say it because it might feel like pointing it out is townie.

Not feeling as good about Bunny now.

And there it is.


If you don’t think I’m hunting, and trying to help others hunt, then you’re just not following what I’m putting down. Which is fine.

[foodcoats]

In fact it goes back to the behaviour that made me scumread Bunny initially; early game he was trying to create information overload with his posts. Now he is pushing back on POE and townreading. It’s bad for town. Like if Bunny is town, why does he think he needs to coach me that I might be wrong in my read of him? It’s obvious I could be wrong. But pointing it out also shakes attempts to build foundations.

Very odd.

I do wonder.

[Chaqa]

hate to come back on a not game related post but this is sick

Our city is getting the first protected bike lanes in the region. It's a really big win and probably going to be a watershed moment. I'll be really glad to be able to safely ride my bike to the downtown and grocery store or maybe let my kid ride with me someday

As a dutch person, it always just baffles me how the rest of the world gets by without this super-obvious and easy to implement QoL.

If only you had chipotle there.

[BunnyGo]

In fact it goes back to the behaviour that made me scumread Bunny initially; early game he was trying to create information overload with his posts. Now he is pushing back on POE and townreading. It’s bad for town. Like if Bunny is town, why does he think he needs to coach me that I might be wrong in my read of him? It’s obvious I could be wrong. But pointing it out also shakes attempts to build foundations.

Very odd.

I do wonder.

Honestly: I hate day 1 as town. Really really hate it.


I think there’s a near perfect correlation with games I’m active day 1 and town and a leading wagon.


Days I’m active day 1 and scum I’m never a leading wagon.


So I’ve spent several games now forcing myself to be silent day 1 by using the GT as my filter. Get all my talking juju out there.

But ghug convinced me after several games to try sending the juju back here.


I’m not sure I enjoyed doing that or that it was good for town. But it was an experiment.

[foodcoats]

There’s been a few posts now where you’ve dissuaded people from townreading you. I find that a bit weird… but I’ll think on that more I guess.

Actually, here’s why this is weird, from my perspective. When I’m town I’m glad to get townread because I can then focus on hunting. When I’m mafia I’m interested in actively bolstering myself as town. And saying, “Now, now, I could be scum!” is the sort of thing that is really scummy to say, because for town, pretty much everyone COULD be scum, but a scum might say it because it might feel like pointing it out is townie.

Not feeling as good about Bunny now.

And there it is.


If you don’t think I’m hunting, and trying to help others hunt, then you’re just not following what I’m putting down. Which is fine.

Okay put down your most likely other two scum.

[brainbomb]

Day 1 is my favorite day because its where were all together as a family.

[BunnyGo]

Actually, here’s why this is weird, from my perspective. When I’m town I’m glad to get townread because I can then focus on hunting. When I’m mafia I’m interested in actively bolstering myself as town. And saying, “Now, now, I could be scum!” is the sort of thing that is really scummy to say, because for town, pretty much everyone COULD be scum, but a scum might say it because it might feel like pointing it out is townie.

Not feeling as good about Bunny now.

And there it is.


If you don’t think I’m hunting, and trying to help others hunt, then you’re just not following what I’m putting down. Which is fine.

Okay put down your most likely other two scum.

Ghug and HamB are up there.

Not chaqa damo Jamie just frog Vecna

[damo666]

And there it is.


If you don’t think I’m hunting, and trying to help others hunt, then you’re just not following what I’m putting down. Which is fine.

Okay put down your most likely other two scum.

Ghug and HamB are up there.

Not chaqa damo Jamie just frog Vecna

Thoughts on Bozo and darg?

[BunnyGo]

Okay put down your most likely other two scum.

Ghug and HamB are up there.

Not chaqa damo Jamie just frog Vecna

Thoughts on Bozo and darg?

Not really. Bozo is making funnies. NAI.

Heart is busy IRL and the towniest thing he did was not cave to frog asking for immediate responses. But he’s got enough of a will save to do that as scum too.

[BunnyGo]

@kak just went back to read the flavor text. Awesome.

@worcej great theme for a game. Loved the opening text too.

[damo666]

VCA

Will locktown (going back to sweet after moving from him to Bunny would make no sense as scum)

Frog - Town putting sweet back in the mix with 10 minutes to go and heavily scumreading him would be odd to do to a godfather scummate

Bunny town - puts sweet to tie with himself, if he were scum surely he votes for me

Damo town (I know I am but for the rest of the class) - my vote puts sweet in the lead at T-8, if scum I vote Bunny

Vecna town - His vote more or less seals sweet's fate so surely is town

Chaqa probtown - puts sweet 6-4 up with 2 minutes to go. Wouldn't scumChaqa hold off to the lastr second to see if there might be a possibility of a save?

ghug - his Bunny vote tying it up 5 minutes out could be construed as a sweetsave attemptbut if so why not stay there and hope for a last second tie? Probtown

Food - not fond of his leaving his vote on Bunny but aas previously explained I town read this slot

HamB - puts Bunny in the lead with 19m to go. As I'm assuming Bunny is town this could be a scum move. I'm very unsure of Ham.

Jamie - votes Bozo (semi jokingly?) and checks out. Posssible scum behaviour but as I previously said if scum I think he would signal that he couldn't be around at EOD

Bozo - votes food, stays there and disappears with a possible signal that he would be unavailable at EOD. Watching ths slot.

brain - votes all over the place and seems to plays avoid the lead wagon. Acting his typical townbrain self but there is say a 10% whiff of suspicion.

heart - not a lot to be said, we'll see what darg says but has to remain on the susslist for now.

[Jamiet99uk]

Top 5 takeaways from the EOD?

Well, I was not around for the final 3-4 hours, but...

1. Happy that we got scum.
2. Mildly surprised as I was not specifically scumkreading S&C and I'll need to go back and understand why his wagon took the lead.
3. Keen for Bozo to stop ignoring me.
4. I still townread Brain and Chaqa
5. I still have suspicions about Frogster.

This post of jamiet reads quite sincere.

Compared to hambone's "im surprised this flipped scum, where did it come from" it reads more genuine as it fits better with jamiet's trajectory this game.

no admitting of missing the bozo joke. just continued suspicion. scum jamiet might be much more intune with that being a bad look, he doesnt seem to gaf.

sticking to a chaqa & brainbomb townread despite it being odd after that EoD.

bringing up suspicions about a slot that looks really towny after that EoD.

Could always be a ballsy scumplay, but this does not appear to want to adhere to any common threads of public thought. Not scared to look bad.

Ouch.

In other words you think I'm town because I'm stupid and bad?

Well at least I'm town.