Mafia 86: Accidents Happen... - Game Thread

[BunnyGo]

Damo's moving assessments of food and sweet throughout the day strike me as odd.

Yeah…but he also could easily have voted me again at a crucial moment.

[BunnyGo]

Damo's moving assessments of food and sweet throughout the day strike me as odd.

Damo seemed still drunk all EOD phase.

[JustAGuyNamedWill]

Just based purely on reading the vote count history in the bot, I think food and ghug look worst.

Would all 3 scum vote me at EOD?

Yeah…they might. That spread out wagon situation followed by a speed wagon on the GF could induce that. Also ghug wouldn’t give a flying ghug about having all 3 scum on one counterwagon.

I don’t particularly like this logic, but I do think Ham is a viable scum candidate.

[ghug]

Damo's moving assessments of food and sweet throughout the day strike me as odd.

Yeah…but he also could easily have voted me again at a crucial moment.

Maybe you're scum too.

[BunnyGo]

Just based purely on reading the vote count history in the bot, I think food and ghug look worst.

Would all 3 scum vote me at EOD?

Yeah…they might. That spread out wagon situation followed by a speed wagon on the GF could induce that. Also ghug wouldn’t give a flying ghug about having all 3 scum on one counterwagon.

I don’t particularly like this logic, but I do think Ham is a viable scum candidate.

No. His vote was timed at a less crucial time, and he'd avoid joining his scum buddies on my wagon.

[BunnyGo]

Damo's moving assessments of food and sweet throughout the day strike me as odd.

Yeah…but he also could easily have voted me again at a crucial moment.

Maybe you're scum too.

But you know I'm not.

Also you know damo would push me over GF!sweet if that was the team.

And you know I'd not have pushed GF!sweet on a speedwagon there when I could have pushed anyone else.

[brainbomb]

I've actually started off looking at bunny again (I am going to look at ghug, Will, brainbomb, and Food, hopefully I have the time).

I thought maybe my scumreading him and voting him based on his first post was harsh, but the more I look at him the more he looks bad.

Bunny's first post seemed insincere because he threw in an obligatory degradation of Will and sweetandcool, when we hadn't done anything yet to warrant it.

His first post of page 3 he decides to townread me, because I mentioned I'm grumpy about life. I still couldn't have possibly done something to make him frustrated with me, and he even references that he needs a better way to read me. Again, this is clearly Bunny saying things he has said in past games, but he has no reason to make those comments.

Third post of page 3 is interesting if Bunny is scum. Could he be teammates with brainbomb?

First post of page 4, maybe it's a casual post or maybe it's a way to spread some stink on me. Bunny seems to want to town me and scum me at the same time.

Last post of page 8 actually makes me mad now that I'm rereading it. Is scum Bunny trying to make us look like teammates?! I'm really not liking his interactions with me (I wasn't planning on cherrypicking his posts that refer to me, but those are the ones that keep pinging me the most).

2nd post of page 9, he agrees with brainbomb and continues to negatively comment on Food. There have been a few posts about Food that don't ping me, but it's interesting how he seems to be buddying brainbomb. Is brainbomb town or are they being obvious partners to the point that we can't think they are partners? Or is it a bus on Food? I haven't felt bad about Food but I do worry about potential pocketing. Food's been too easygoing with me, and it makes me wary.

Several posts later: Jeeze, Bunny become fixated on brainbomb. Not towning or scumming brainbomb really, just mentioning the hell out of him.

Okay, at this point I've concluded Bunny is probably scum. He is currently gunning for Food. Bus or MK?

I was planning on saving Food for last, but I think I'll look at him next. Then onto my accusers.

This speaks very unfavorably of food and accuses him of doing all sorts of things but the post always just comes back to bunny

[BunnyGo]

@brain another interesting thing about his post, he was setting me up to look bad if we'd gotten food and for him to look good. Pre-emptively saying food was buddying him and I was bussing food.

[Hamilton Brian]

Holy magnificent. That was some wagon the killed SweetAndScum. Who drove that because that came out of nowhere. When I voted and left, it was Bunny 3.

Anyway, well done!

Ghug and Just come off pretty good having originally seeming to scum Sweet. I just can't tell when ghug is being serious or ironic.

[BunnyGo]

Holy magnificent. That was some wagon the killed SweetAndScum. Who drove that because that came out of nowhere. When I voted and left, it was Bunny 3.

Anyway, well done!

Ghug and Just come off pretty good having originally seeming to scum Sweet. I just can't tell when ghug is being serious or ironic.

Considering ghug then voted me at a cruical moment near the end...less good maybe?

[Hamilton Brian]

Here are the players I suspect:

And then promptly lists off the remaining players. That's funny. I don't think bozo is ever funny though, so this is a little off-brand.

[Hamilton Brian]

who took pleasant player will and replaced him with this John Cena caricature.i read these posts and I cannot even recognize this person.

Right? There's something different. I don't know what to call it but I'll go along with John Cena at the moment.

[BunnyGo]

who took pleasant player will and replaced him with this John Cena caricature.i read these posts and I cannot even recognize this person.

Right? There's something different. I don't know what to call it but I'll go along with John Cena at the moment.

Maybe he's just feeling more comfortable around us?

[foodcoats]

To the GT:

I’m enjoying Just’s engagement. I’d need to go back and reread to see if he’s SAID anything of consequence besides prodding and enthusiasm. I think he has. But not one word has stuck.

In other thoughts:

Ghug is wrong that I try to neg and needle him as scum. I try that when I can’t tell his alignment too. The game that recently comes to mind is when he was scum and sadly my strongest townread until late. But late in the game I started nudging him.


Jamie seems very town here. Might be my strongest townlean for now. He’s not angry, but also not scared or fronting.


Food has been all over in my mind.

HamB has been absent. This is weird. I expect when he finally rolls town, he’ll be so excited to play. Might worry he gets miskilled early? Does he lurk to avoid that? I’d expect him to jump in head first.


Froggy…I dunno. Never had to read him much last game since I got got early. He certainly seems more cautious. Maybe he knew last game would become mechanics?

Chaqa seems towny to me. But that’s based on knowing he enjoys scum and honestly believing he’s not having fun.

Sweet…hmm…why the hell is he voting me? I really don’t get it. That’s not necessarily scummy, but I haven’t understood his ramblings about it either.

And heart. Wherefor heart? Him standing up to froggy seems towny? I don’t think he’s easy to push around, but I think he’d be more likely to acquiesce to a request for reads rather than say “no”. Hmmm. Unless they’re both scum? That’s interesting….


Froggy-heart-lurker-and ghug? That’s a reasonable team guess? Will have to go read with that in mind later.

Ghug- I can’t say whether or not Bunny is doing this, but personally I haven’t noticed it.

Jamie- I am null on Jamie. I don’t understand why Bunny thinks he is so town. He has markedly less participation than two games ago (I didn’t pay attention to last game cuz I got murked), but that may be because no one has argued with him

Food- I think food is town. He seems to be playing a similar way to his last (town) game, but not in a way that feels intentional, like Frog

Hamilton- I have seen Hamilton around, but he hasn’t given me much to go on. Idk what this means, but I want to remember it

Froggggg- Am not certain of his mafia-ness. Could be completely wrong. Heard it here first, I am probably going to switch my vote.

Chaqa- Chaqa is null. He has done town things and scum things that cancel each other out.

Sweet- as Bunny said, his scumtell: “If I want to throttle sweet through the screen, he’s town”

Heart- no opinion on heart. Barely even noticed he was here. Maybe lurking? (I think i’m using that term right)

It’s interesting that bunny and will both totally read sweets soul. It’s not well quoted here but i assume will is referring to one of bunny’s first posts where he says sweets bad attitude makes him town. Crazy. Well done. I also noticed Sweet was way easier to get along with this game but i chalked that up to us understanding each other better after bashing heads a bit last game.

[Hamilton Brian]

Holy magnificent. That was some wagon the killed SweetAndScum. Who drove that because that came out of nowhere. When I voted and left, it was Bunny 3.

Anyway, well done!

Ghug and Just come off pretty good having originally seeming to scum Sweet. I just can't tell when ghug is being serious or ironic.

Considering ghug then voted me at a cruical moment near the end...less good maybe?

Missed that as I haven't looked to see who the voters on sweet wound up being yet. SO, good to keep on hand I suppose. I haven't done a good close read of ghug yet.

[Jamiet99uk]

GREAT D1 result, excellent work.

[foodcoats]

It feels like I've played about two days as town in the last six months, so it's hard to keep track.

Wouldn't that make it easier to keep track?

No. Scum is a mostly emotionless effort to to give town a good hunt en route to beating them, so it's easier to remember the rare town moments and augment then with misascribed memories of scum moments. I'm betting if you looked at the game after I bussed sweet, I either commented on or thought about commenting on something he did that reminded me of the other times I voted for him day one, and inadvertantly solidified a belief that it's a pattern in my mind.

None of this is helpful to you, of course. I think you jumping on this is weird but my gut also says sweet is scum.

Heck i guess ghug does it too. Poor sweet.

[heartthrob24909]

Well done everyone on getting Sweet. Again, I apologize for my lack of participation. I'll be around tonight in about a half hour. Will start by catching up and then will be around for live convo

[Jamiet99uk]

I am going to drift away for N1 unless anyone has questions for me.

[BunnyGo]

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It’s interesting that bunny and will both totally read sweets soul. It’s not well quoted here but i assume will is referring to one of bunny’s first posts where he says sweets bad attitude makes him town. Crazy. Well done. I also noticed Sweet was way easier to get along with this game but i chalked that up to us understanding each other better after bashing heads a bit last game.

For the record, that was last game I said that. I also said I intended to find at least a better way to say it. I don't like that as a tell. It leads to things like Jamie being performative angry. I don't want that, and I don't intend to use it going forward.