Mafia 86: Accidents Happen... - Game Thread

[Jamiet99uk]

I have taken note that you instantly assume that my attack comes from a silly, outdated frame of reference, as opposed to a scummy one.

You attribute stupidity instead of malice.

While that is the wise course of action, im not sure it is the course of action of someone looking for scum.

It instantly feels like you know you need to enter defensive mode, because you cannot argue my virtue.

That's mostly right; my gut reaction is that you're wrong town, not evil scum trying to misflip me.

[Vecna]

Wait until later then you’ll probably change your mind

Why?

Is someone seeing something interesting?

Maybe we should make a song out of it. When I see something interesting, I usually have to go make a song about it. Here is a song about something interesting.

Old McDonald had a farm
E I E I O
Wait til later change your mind
Why oh why oh why

this is a thing of the utmost beauty

no wonder jamiet hasnt found a reason to hate on brainbomb yet (provided all posts going forward are of similar level quality)

[Vecna]

Okay now that I am here and have invaded your minds with ms rachel Time for some news.

I have a baby son, he was born wed. His name is daniel. He is still in the NICU at the hospital.

I do not need special treatment.
I do not need to be viewed as town simply because I have a personal issue out of game.
It may take away some of my time to play
You are free to scumread me if you think im away more than is reasonable.

My concern is my son is on oxygen and we want to get him home soon. His life is not in danger. He is getting better. I will also add that he was born with Down Syndrome. We expected that, but we were never totally sure if it would happen.

I appreciate being able to play mafia here, it is a nice distraction. Do not, under any circumstance give me special treatment. I chose to sign up to play and I plan to have a heck of a good time, on my own terms. I may not post much else this evening so, that was my shitposting phase. Ill be hunting, and watching for the dirty little scummies to come along.

-brainybomb

Congratulations Brainbomb. And also godspeed on the coming journey. Im sure itll be difficult at times, but I have full confidence youre going to be an amazing dad to Daniel.

[Jamiet99uk]

Why?

Is someone seeing something interesting?

Maybe we should make a song out of it. When I see something interesting, I usually have to go make a song about it. Here is a song about something interesting.

Old McDonald had a farm
E I E I O
Wait til later change your mind
Why oh why oh why

this is a thing of the utmost beauty

no wonder jamiet hasnt found a reason to hate on brainbomb yet (provided all posts going forward are of similar level quality)

I hated on it a little bit but then I got over myself.

I townread Brain-Daddy.

[Vecna]

I made the mistake of joining a game on MafiaUniverse at the same time as this one. I had forgotten how much that site is infested with weeaboo anime fans, furries, and other sub-humans.

I appreciate you more as a person for this comment

[Jamiet99uk]

I made the mistake of joining a game on MafiaUniverse at the same time as this one. I had forgotten how much that site is infested with weeaboo anime fans, furries, and other sub-humans.

I appreciate you more as a person for this comment

squawk

[Vecna]

Foodcoats what are your reads on everyone's opening?

Foodcoats ignoring this is +scum I guess

+guess scum is this I Foodcoats guess ignoring

oooh, if this is a permanent gimmick I think im intrueged.

[Chaqa]

I'll be on for a bit as I catch up. Sorry for the absence, tonight's city council meeting was a long one.

To the GT:

That last sentence is such a good teaser. I really want to hear more about the meeting.

So the city I live in has a historic downtown from the 1700s that is soon to be a World Heritage site. There is a massive, ugly parking garage next to it that is currently being demolished due to it being 50 years old and falling apart. The city has been working to replace it so that we only miss one Christmas season (big part of the local economy, we're called "The Christmas City")

As part of this, the Historical Architecture Review Board was consulted, and they basically have been rejecting any proposal that is not rebuilding the garage exactly as before. This is ostensibly because of historic reasons, but many of us and the majority of the City Council rightly argue that no parking garage can be historic, and that the HARB is acting in bad faith as they did not provide any comments on anything except "we will only accept a garage on the same footprint rebuilt in kind"

They are hyper focused on the fact that the old garage, which is literally a block large (back in the 70s it displaced 40 low income homes to be built, but HARB didnt bitch then, did they - wonder why?), will be smaller and taller by a few feet, and that a portion of the old site may be used for some other purpose. As such, the plan is to subdivide the lot and leave the other bit empty. In the mocks, the designers simply put a white box placeholder, which all of us with non-lead poisoned brains understood to be just that.

There's been literally dozens of hours of informative presentations on this, yet these NIMBYs are saying the process hasn't been transparent and have been basically conspiratorial in their beliefs that there's (to quote a fellow resident) "a secret cabal of city officials trying to sneak something nefarious into the white box"

This has been probably the biggest drama in the city in awhile, with a bunch of people carrying signs saying "Support HARB". Not to be crass, but every single one of these people is over the age of 50. They cry about the city's future while actively trying to repeat the mistakes of the past.

[Chaqa]

I suspect Vecna is mafia for going half of D1 without posting.

This might be my favorite Bozo post ever.

To the GT:

Wait till he sees the other reviews of it…

I didn't say it was a towny post

[Chaqa]

I'll be on for a bit as I catch up. Sorry for the absence, tonight's city council meeting was a long one.

They elected YOU to the City Council?

Haha no but I'm involved with urbanist and cycling advocacy. I might run in 2026 or 2028 to unseat one of the two more obstructive councilors, but who knows.

[Chaqa]

- snipped -

Chaqa, do you think scum!Will is deliberately making big but repetitive posts in order to appear townie?

It's on my radar

[Chaqa]

I just realized brainbomb and Chaqa are scum together.

That’s why brain attacked Chaqa over a quibble, Chaqa cried about it, brain let him off the hook, and Chaqa disappeared.

Toot toot let’s go.

##VOTE Chaqa

To the GT:

That’s an interesting theory. I think it also works with chaqa town and brainbomb instigating.

I wonder why food doesn’t ##vote brainbomb when brain has also been nudging food.

The main reason I think they are more likely both scum is that Chaqa’s defense and following play after that fight do not at all appear to be townie, nor is it remotely reasonable to think Chaqa is unable to launch an ATE or threaten to sub out as scum. Brain even highlighted it himself: Chaqa has a very wide range. However, the “meta key” that is most interesting to me isn’t “scum!Chaqa could do this,” it’s “town!brain knows scum!Chaqa could do this, but brain accepted the ATE and has not launched a follow-up attack regarding Chaqa’s fading from the thread once the ATE was accepted.” This is an unusual tack from brain.

And now that I’ve written it out, I see how on balance brain is more likely than Chaqa to be scum in that scenario.

Well, the reason I voted for Chaqa is because I like to see bigger wagons competing earlier in the game, and there are several people who seemed willing to vote Chaqa, whereas a brain wagon doesn’t seem likely at this time. But since you’ve corrected my thinking, I will:

##VOTE brainbomb

"The main reason I think they are more likely both scum is that Chaqa’s defense and following play after that fight do not at all appear to be townie"

Could you explain why you feel that?

And what is an ATE?

[Hamilton Brian]

My gut says this is all manufactured "I'm town I'm town I'm town!" but in a forced way. I think Will's had a couple of really good games recently so this seems like a reversion.

That was in reaction to Food's post.

Thank you for clarifying you think I’m scum. What is your point about Will? Are you saying he’s playing badly? What does that imply about his alignment?

I don't think I was considering you as scum. I thought I was responding to what Will's wall was; I think they're playing differently and not in a good way. Not you.

[Jamiet99uk]

So the city I live in has a historic downtown from the 1700s that is soon to be a World Heritage site. There is a massive, ugly parking garage next to it that is currently being demolished due to it being 50 years old and falling apart. The city has been working to replace it so that we only miss one Christmas season (big part of the local economy, we're called "The Christmas City")

As part of this, the Historical Architecture Review Board was consulted, and they basically have been rejecting any proposal that is not rebuilding the garage exactly as before. This is ostensibly because of historic reasons, but many of us and the majority of the City Council rightly argue that no parking garage can be historic, and that the HARB is acting in bad faith as they did not provide any comments on anything except "we will only accept a garage on the same footprint rebuilt in kind"

They are hyper focused on the fact that the old garage, which is literally a block large (back in the 70s it displaced 40 low income homes to be built, but HARB didnt bitch then, did they - wonder why?), will be smaller and taller by a few feet, and that a portion of the old site may be used for some other purpose. As such, the plan is to subdivide the lot and leave the other bit empty. In the mocks, the designers simply put a white box placeholder, which all of us with non-lead poisoned brains understood to be just that.

There's been literally dozens of hours of informative presentations on this, yet these NIMBYs are saying the process hasn't been transparent and have been basically conspiratorial in their beliefs that there's (to quote a fellow resident) "a secret cabal of city officials trying to sneak something nefarious into the white box"

This has been probably the biggest drama in the city in awhile, with a bunch of people carrying signs saying "Support HARB". Not to be crass, but every single one of these people is over the age of 50. They cry about the city's future while actively trying to repeat the mistakes of the past.

Is it this ugly thing?

https://www.lehighvalleylive.com/bethlehem/2023/10/demolition-of-walnut-street-parking-garage-okd-in-bethlehem.html

Yeah, that is not a historic building and it does not need to be preserved. Wow.

[Hamilton Brian]

Anyway, I do have a bit of time this morning. I'll do as quick of a read through as I can and not get in trouble with the IT crowd at our board. I'll be missing context but...it's D1.

[Jamiet99uk]

I'll be on for a bit as I catch up. Sorry for the absence, tonight's city council meeting was a long one.

They elected YOU to the City Council?

Haha no but I'm involved with urbanist and cycling advocacy. I might run in 2026 or 2028 to unseat one of the two more obstructive councilors, but who knows.

Vote* for Chaqa!

Free bicycles for everyone!

*In the 2026 city council election, not the present phase of Mafia 86.

[Jamiet99uk]

And what is an ATE?

Appeal
To
Emotion

[brainbomb]

I am under the impression that foodcoats and bunny are mafia now.

In hockey terms this is what we call a power play.

[Chaqa]

So the city I live in has a historic downtown from the 1700s that is soon to be a World Heritage site. There is a massive, ugly parking garage next to it that is currently being demolished due to it being 50 years old and falling apart. The city has been working to replace it so that we only miss one Christmas season (big part of the local economy, we're called "The Christmas City")

As part of this, the Historical Architecture Review Board was consulted, and they basically have been rejecting any proposal that is not rebuilding the garage exactly as before. This is ostensibly because of historic reasons, but many of us and the majority of the City Council rightly argue that no parking garage can be historic, and that the HARB is acting in bad faith as they did not provide any comments on anything except "we will only accept a garage on the same footprint rebuilt in kind"

They are hyper focused on the fact that the old garage, which is literally a block large (back in the 70s it displaced 40 low income homes to be built, but HARB didnt bitch then, did they - wonder why?), will be smaller and taller by a few feet, and that a portion of the old site may be used for some other purpose. As such, the plan is to subdivide the lot and leave the other bit empty. In the mocks, the designers simply put a white box placeholder, which all of us with non-lead poisoned brains understood to be just that.

There's been literally dozens of hours of informative presentations on this, yet these NIMBYs are saying the process hasn't been transparent and have been basically conspiratorial in their beliefs that there's (to quote a fellow resident) "a secret cabal of city officials trying to sneak something nefarious into the white box"

This has been probably the biggest drama in the city in awhile, with a bunch of people carrying signs saying "Support HARB". Not to be crass, but every single one of these people is over the age of 50. They cry about the city's future while actively trying to repeat the mistakes of the past.

Is it this ugly thing?

https://www.lehighvalleylive.com/bethlehem/2023/10/demolition-of-walnut-street-parking-garage-okd-in-bethlehem.html

Yeah, that is not a historic building and it does not need to be preserved. Wow.

That's correct, yeah. I cannot stress how unreasonable they've been. And the severe lack of decorum from them at the meetings. Applauding stupid soundbites made by people, meandering 10 minute speeches that don't have a point.

One lady literally spent two separate 5 minute experiences telling a story about her not being able to drive her loved one to the hospital, and that somehow the parking garage was the fault of it, and if we didn't rebuild it people would die.

She never once said how this relates to the parking garage except that "there was bad traffic and both bridges were backed up" but like... there's multiple hospitals on the north side of the river too.

[Chaqa]

And what is an ATE?

Appeal
To
Emotion

Oh, well food just doesn't know me. That's fair.

@food I would not manipulate someone in that way. I think several people here can attest to that. There was an incident with Flum a few years ago that was very unpleasant where I was on the receiving end of an "ATE"