Mafia 86: Accidents Happen... - Game Thread

[JustAGuyNamedWill]

Is this an anchor post?

I think he’s trying to imply that he is going to cook dinner and play minecraft, but idk. Thoughts?

Burn!

[BunnyGo]

Tiny scumread I’m that you, a on tiny, don’t not the mean own. Of based I but being any, maybe conclusions my Froggo And genuine On have and is and others,

Which conclusions?

I don’t know who said it but it was like: “Frog is trying to be Frog from last game, not town”

To the GT:

That was me (Bunny!) I said it.

He's done better since I said it though...maybe I prompted him to...maybe I just said it too early.

[JustAGuyNamedWill]

I actually know what the context is for above gif. Does that make me a nerd?

[Frogsterking]

Foodcoats what are your reads on everyone's opening?

Foodcoats ignoring this is +scum I guess

I was killing a ghoul priest. You ever fought a ghoul priest?

Only in my dreams. I asked you another question by the way, it seems like you may have missed it. I asked "how are you motivating yourself to read the thread?"

Tiny scumread I’m that you, a on tiny, don’t not the mean own. Of based I but being any, maybe conclusions my Froggo And genuine On have and is and others,

Which conclusions?

I don’t know who said it but it was like: “Frog is trying to be Frog from last game, not town”

Can you tell me anything to help convince me this a perspective you find insightful rather than something you're making up as you go along?

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Y'all are like dogs growling at a mirror.

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Artist’s interpretation of the situation

Why did you choose clowns? Do you think sweet and bunnygo are performing scum theater?

[brainbomb]

Oh also Jamie is town this game

Town so far
Ghug
jamie
Sweet
Frog
Hamilton

For the GT:

Brain will start scumreading me in about 16 hours for not questioning his townread more.

I thought this was bunny and i was zoomed in. Scrolled right to quote it.

But yea probably true or youlll play contrarian to every scumread I forment and drive me bananas

[BunnyGo]

I actually know what the context is for above gif. Does that make me a nerd?

To the GT:

It especially does since I think it came out before he was born.

Just seems a bit looser this game. More settled than I'd seen him ever.

Not sure what to make of that. Maybe he's always been and I'm just understanding him finally.

Maybe he's feeling less judged after that win as a PR.

Maybe he's scum? Would that make him loose?

[JustAGuyNamedWill]

Can you tell me anything to help convince me this a perspective you find insightful rather than something you're making up as you go along?

-methinks that yous are trying hard to replicate your last game because we all thought you were super towny, even before mech boredom


Why did you choose clowns? Do you think sweet and bunnygo are performing scum theater?

It was funne lol

[brainbomb]

Bunny isnt trying to sort me. But he also doesnt typically try to either

[JustAGuyNamedWill]

Can you tell me anything to help convince me this a perspective you find insightful rather than something you're making up as you go along?

Why did you choose clowns? Do you think sweet and bunnygo are performing scum theater?

-methinks that yous are trying hard to replicate your last game because we all thought you were super towny, even before mech boredom


It was funne lol

Reposting because of error

[JustAGuyNamedWill]

I actually know what the context is for above gif. Does that make me a nerd?

To the GT:

It especially does since I think it came out before he was born.

Just seems a bit looser this game. More settled than I'd seen him ever.

Not sure what to make of that. Maybe he's always been and I'm just understanding him finally.

Maybe he's feeling less judged after that win as a PR.

Maybe he's scum? Would that make him loose?

Woah. Soul read (except for the scum part)

[BunnyGo]

Bunny isnt trying to sort me. But he also doesnt typically try to either

To the GT:

I don't think BB knows he can see my posts. Maybe he's being generous and letting them go to the GT without reading them?

Or he's in the NICU (congratulations BB!) and just missed the post where I said he and ghug aren't both scum.

But he's right. I judge BB slowly...his openings always are worth ignoring in real time and going back to later.

[Frogsterking]

Foodcoats what are your reads on everyone's opening?

I have read them and confirmed they are openers in a game of WebDip Mafia.

You may kiss the ring.

Okay, thank you for answering. How do you motivate yourself to read this thread?

[brainbomb]

Will hows life

[brainbomb]

Bunny isnt trying to sort me. But he also doesnt typically try to either

To the GT:

I don't think BB knows he can see my posts. Maybe he's being generous and letting them go to the GT without reading them?

Or he's in the NICU (congratulations BB!) and just missed the post where I said he and ghug aren't both scum.

But he's right. I judge BB slowly...his openings always are worth ignoring in real time and going back to later.

i am indeed in Nicu with lil meatball . His oxygen got put back up higher

[JustAGuyNamedWill]

Will hows life

It’s been going great. How bout u (with the baby an all)

[JustAGuyNamedWill]

Bunny isnt trying to sort me. But he also doesnt typically try to either

To the GT:

I don't think BB knows he can see my posts. Maybe he's being generous and letting them go to the GT without reading them?

Or he's in the NICU (congratulations BB!) and just missed the post where I said he and ghug aren't both scum.

But he's right. I judge BB slowly...his openings always are worth ignoring in real time and going back to later.

i am indeed in Nicu with lil meatball . His oxygen got put back up higher

Got me thinking about the word Jaundice. Probably the funniest fucking word in the entire english language

[ghug]

To the GT:

I think brainbomb has an interesting idea of what a meta is. So let's examine.

One idea is that "meta game" is a series of strategies that are currently popular. They then become exploitable when they are too popular (a style of opening or alliance at diplomacy is a commonly referred to example).

One idea is that it is a style of strategies and style for a specific person.

One thing I learned from swordsman, is that in trying to learn how to read people, not to examine their specific tactics in gunboat, but instead to examine the level of yomi that they go to. He found that this was much harder for people to change. (yomi is the level of "if I do then he'll do, but he'll expect that I'll expect it, so instead I'll...")


I personally think something similar is true for mafia. I believe this with no scientific evidence at all.

A meta strategy that is popular for town/scum is something that scum can try to emulate or refrain from emulating. Then they eventually go two levels deep and become "so scummy it isn't" as a yomi level 2. These are things people easily change. Town also don't keep in mind the same things that scum do. Scum try not to be scummy; town don't--they just try to be themselves.

But changing how a specific player thinks, writes, and interacts; in particular over the course of the game...this is much harder for someone to change.

So I think brainbomb's idea that comparing food to himself is the wrong sort of meta is incorrect. I think comparing someone's opening style to the "wrong sort of opening style" is incorrect. Good scum players have in mind "not to do the 'scummy' thing" and town players aren't thinking of it.

Learning from swordsman is a time-tested path to failure.

To the GT:

I thought ghug respected Demon Overlord's game. Granted she was a better Diplomacy study than I was.

I respect her game, not necessarily her taste in people.

And as far as I know she still sucks at gunboat. She's much more of a ghug/HR/ATC acolyte in press strategy, and her communication style is all her own.

[brainbomb]

Will hows life

It’s been going great. How bout u (with the baby an all)

ironically he also had jaundice. Born B- blood and his moms is O+. So he had to be in a special glowy blanket

[BunnyGo]

To the GT:

ghug is scum. Heard it here first.

Jamie, Just are town.

Froggy, food, sweet, heart I keep going back and forth on.

I really even liked BB's call out of Vecna. That was silly. I can see him sitting in the hospital anxious about his kid, his wife, his older kid, and just make a silly post like that. Scum!BB would probably be more disciplined. We'll see...

But ghug is scum.

Oh! So BB can't be...that's cool.

[JustAGuyNamedWill]

Will hows life

It’s been going great. How bout u (with the baby an all)

ironically he also had jaundice. Born B- blood and his moms is O+. So he had to be in a special glowy blanket

I had jaundice when I was young. They had to put me in a light bath or smthn to help it.