Mafia 86: Accidents Happen... - Game Thread

[brainbomb]

i dont think my reads are questionable so no you can trust them as being legit thoughts and decide if you agree or not. Beyond that not much else to say yet

[Frogsterking]

I want to hear your reads, justaguynamedwill.

I also want you to respond to my question from earlier, foodcoats:

Foodcoats what are your reads on everyone's opening?

Foodcoats ignoring this is +scum I guess

+guess scum is this I Foodcoats guess ignoring

[JustAGuyNamedWill]

I want to hear your reads, justaguynamedwill.

I also want you to respond to my question from earlier, foodcoats:

Foodcoats ignoring this is +scum I guess

+guess scum is this I Foodcoats guess ignoring

Don’t have any, Froggo. And I’m being genuine. Maybe a tiny, and I mean tiny, scumread on you, but that is based on the conclusions of others, and not my own.

[JustAGuyNamedWill]

Tiny scumread I’m that you, a on tiny, don’t not the mean own. Of based I but being any, maybe conclusions my Froggo And genuine On have and is and others,

[foodcoats]

##Vote foodcoats

I choose to scumread you for this.

[foodcoats]

Foodcoats what are your reads on everyone's opening?

I have read them and confirmed they are openers in a game of WebDip Mafia.

You may kiss the ring.

[Frogsterking]

Foodcoats what are your reads on everyone's opening?

I have read them and confirmed they are openers in a game of WebDip Mafia.

You may kiss the ring.

Okay, thank you for answering. How do you motivate yourself to read this thread?

[ghug]

Yeah, but I think his fake thoughts to the GT within the God Thread are satire. It's different.

To the GT


WTF?! Sweet thinks I can spew satire to just amuse the GMs for hours a day?! Like I’m an amateur clown?!


Fuck!


I really think sweet and I don’t get each other. And I really don’t get why. Maybe it’s an east coast/west coast thing? But the youngish parents with mathy backgrounds and academic orientations. But there’s something fucking off about him. Maybe we’ll figure it out this game.

I'm really starting to think the problem is on your end.

One of your first posts about me identified me as someone who has a really high opinion of themselves and thinking they are really logically and smarter than others.

Basically you described me as a degenerate Math/CS person.

You were partially right in that I'm a mathematician, but that was about it.

Since then I've driven you crazy for coming across as arrogant/condescending at times, but since I wasn't that way last game it has been confusing you, I guess.

In reality, I just like being able to yell at strangers online since I have trouble expressing myself IRL. Of course, I also feel deep shame for it and that's why I'm trying to limit myself to merely being snarky at times.

Y'all are like dogs growling at a mirror.

[Frogsterking]

Tiny scumread I’m that you, a on tiny, don’t not the mean own. Of based I but being any, maybe conclusions my Froggo And genuine On have and is and others,

Which conclusions?

[ghug]

Oh also Jamie is town this game

Town so far
Ghug
jamie
Sweet
Frog
Hamilton

For the GT:

Brain will start scumreading me in about 16 hours for not questioning his townread more.

[ghug]

To the GT:

Excellent call out. Food’s opening was nowhere near as towny as last game.

Good on BB for not leaving that in the dustbin.

this wouldve been fine except you changed the context to be meta based. My statement was rooted exclusively in what hes doing this game and I never referenced a past game to compare. Many players get turned off by meta. So I was deliberate in my scumread being based on that it struck me as something scum do regularly, spectate and weigh in on inconsequential topics to seem engaged

To the GT:

I think brainbomb has an interesting idea of what a meta is. So let's examine.

One idea is that "meta game" is a series of strategies that are currently popular. They then become exploitable when they are too popular (a style of opening or alliance at diplomacy is a commonly referred to example).

One idea is that it is a style of strategies and style for a specific person.

One thing I learned from swordsman, is that in trying to learn how to read people, not to examine their specific tactics in gunboat, but instead to examine the level of yomi that they go to. He found that this was much harder for people to change. (yomi is the level of "if I do then he'll do, but he'll expect that I'll expect it, so instead I'll...")


I personally think something similar is true for mafia. I believe this with no scientific evidence at all.

A meta strategy that is popular for town/scum is something that scum can try to emulate or refrain from emulating. Then they eventually go two levels deep and become "so scummy it isn't" as a yomi level 2. These are things people easily change. Town also don't keep in mind the same things that scum do. Scum try not to be scummy; town don't--they just try to be themselves.

But changing how a specific player thinks, writes, and interacts; in particular over the course of the game...this is much harder for someone to change.

So I think brainbomb's idea that comparing food to himself is the wrong sort of meta is incorrect. I think comparing someone's opening style to the "wrong sort of opening style" is incorrect. Good scum players have in mind "not to do the 'scummy' thing" and town players aren't thinking of it.

Learning from swordsman is a time-tested path to failure.

[JustAGuyNamedWill]

To the GT


WTF?! Sweet thinks I can spew satire to just amuse the GMs for hours a day?! Like I’m an amateur clown?!


Fuck!


I really think sweet and I don’t get each other. And I really don’t get why. Maybe it’s an east coast/west coast thing? But the youngish parents with mathy backgrounds and academic orientations. But there’s something fucking off about him. Maybe we’ll figure it out this game.

Snip

Y'all are like dogs growling at a mirror.

Artist’s interpretation of the situation

[foodcoats]

Long story short
from a role playing game. we have a chess game ongoing within it. my character was an augustinian priest named ruy lopez and sweet insisted on playing a game of chess, im not doing well in an opening out of the slav.

guess that wasnt very short

Genius. I think my favourite thing about RPGs is how they tend to slide into absurdities, inside jokes and memes. I guess some people play them very seriously, but what a horrid life that would be.

You should join our motley crew (:

It's not too late to join.

Don’t tempt me…

Funny RPG story: I have a set of incredibly powerful yellow dice, the d20 being particularly notorious for rolling 20s. They caused several near TPKs and so I retired them from DM usage. I still used them as a player to the woe of more than 5% of enemies. But the other day I dropped the glass jar I keep them in (I keep them separate from my main box of dice - to preserve the juju). The jar shattered and the dice went everywhere. But the d20 is nowhere to be found. I have hunted high and low. Recently, while playing Call of Cthulhu, my friend called them “the king in yellow” dice, and it has convinced me that the die was in fact a magic jar of sorts that had preserved a demon, and the conjunction of forces when I dropped the jar caused the contraption to be dispelled, releasing the entity and obliterating its earthly prison.

So do you guys have a wizard?

[JustAGuyNamedWill]

Tiny scumread I’m that you, a on tiny, don’t not the mean own. Of based I but being any, maybe conclusions my Froggo And genuine On have and is and others,

Which conclusions?

I don’t know who said it but it was like: “Frog is trying to be Frog from last game, not town”

[foodcoats]

I made the mistake of joining a game on MafiaUniverse at the same time as this one. I had forgotten how much that site is infested with weeaboo anime fans, furries, and other sub-humans.

Get this man a waifu.

[foodcoats]

Foodcoats what are your reads on everyone's opening?

Foodcoats ignoring this is +scum I guess

I was killing a ghoul priest. You ever fought a ghoul priest?

[foodcoats]

Hello and good evening bffs

I will be cooking dinner and playing minecraft tonight and most hopefully periodically checking in on the hijinks which have no doubt already begun to ensue.

Is this an anchor post?

I think he’s trying to imply that he is going to cook dinner and play minecraft, but idk. Thoughts?

Burn!

[foodcoats]

Is this an anchor post?

I think he’s trying to imply that he is going to cook dinner and play minecraft, but idk. Thoughts?

Burn!

Such a burn!

##VOTE Jamie

[foodcoats]

Leaning town on Justaguynamedwill

I love to see Frog *hop* to conclusions like this

So different than how I play lol

This is also great humour that I appreciate.

[BunnyGo]

this wouldve been fine except you changed the context to be meta based. My statement was rooted exclusively in what hes doing this game and I never referenced a past game to compare. Many players get turned off by meta. So I was deliberate in my scumread being based on that it struck me as something scum do regularly, spectate and weigh in on inconsequential topics to seem engaged

To the GT:

I think brainbomb has an interesting idea of what a meta is. So let's examine.

One idea is that "meta game" is a series of strategies that are currently popular. They then become exploitable when they are too popular (a style of opening or alliance at diplomacy is a commonly referred to example).

One idea is that it is a style of strategies and style for a specific person.

One thing I learned from swordsman, is that in trying to learn how to read people, not to examine their specific tactics in gunboat, but instead to examine the level of yomi that they go to. He found that this was much harder for people to change. (yomi is the level of "if I do then he'll do, but he'll expect that I'll expect it, so instead I'll...")


I personally think something similar is true for mafia. I believe this with no scientific evidence at all.

A meta strategy that is popular for town/scum is something that scum can try to emulate or refrain from emulating. Then they eventually go two levels deep and become "so scummy it isn't" as a yomi level 2. These are things people easily change. Town also don't keep in mind the same things that scum do. Scum try not to be scummy; town don't--they just try to be themselves.

But changing how a specific player thinks, writes, and interacts; in particular over the course of the game...this is much harder for someone to change.

So I think brainbomb's idea that comparing food to himself is the wrong sort of meta is incorrect. I think comparing someone's opening style to the "wrong sort of opening style" is incorrect. Good scum players have in mind "not to do the 'scummy' thing" and town players aren't thinking of it.

Learning from swordsman is a time-tested path to failure.

To the GT:

I thought ghug respected Demon Overlord's game. Granted she was a better Diplomacy study than I was.