Mafia 85: Return from Lockdown

[sweetandcool]

NOPE

This is the order of operations:
1 Human Resources
2 Curfew enforcer
3 Sicko
4 Doctor
5 Detective
6 Electoral Commission Officer
7 Internal Affairs
8 Private Investigator
9 Middle Manager
10 Corrupt Cop
11 Police Commissioner
12 Ruber Driver
13 Pollster
14 DaDa Driver
15 Mafia NK
16 Gerrymander-er
17 Lobbyist
18 Door-Darter
19 Paper Delivery Boy
20 News Host
21 E-Mail Hacker
22 Mail Man

Wow, thanks! I was just reading that list and missed the NK.

Okay, so food was RB. Either by Bob as CE or by Mafia.

Which means Chaqa was role blocked by either Frog as CE or by Mafia.

Then Fisch is lying?

I guess I need to call GM.

there is another possibility that lfischl says the full truth as town. There is also the possibility that lfischl lies as town. Why would you need to call gm here?

We KNOW Food was roleblocked.

We KNOW Chaqa was roleblocked, provided the GM clarifies my question.

Consequently Fisch is either Doctor or lying.

[Chaqa]

I did

I had "undelivered" not a failure.

I think that counts the same here. I would expect you to receive undelivered if you were roleblocked.

Certain results return "Failure" so I think the distinction is important here for clarity.

[brainbomb]

I am pretty fucking okay with being roleblocked because that means the real doc and real cop get scans. so by all means, come and get me assholes

[Frogsterking]

Can anyone tell me about brain's scum range?

[sweetandcool]

I will just say I do not know who I trust between sweet or bozo.

Sweet is saying very little about me at all

bozo is claiming im mechanically outed as scum and that worcej proves I cant be the mailman.

I fully expect that I will be roleblocked to prevent my ability to verify my role, ESPECIALLY if babyspice is actually mafia. Because if I visited someone and return a result, as polster, then babyspice would also be outted as mafia.

If I were to return a result of anything other than failure, mafia would have a hard time getting me killed.

So based on this logic, all of bozo's plan requires me to get roleblocked so I am never able to prove his allegations wrong

I haven't quite gotten to you yet.

I kind of expect you to be the Mail Man, but I don't think it will be simple to untangle that yet.

Also, your play this night is giving me some pause.

But until I work it out I'm just going with the assumption you are town.

[Chaqa]

This night is so long, I bet we could run a D&D campaign during it.

[Chaqa]

Can anyone tell me about brain's scum range?

Range(brain!scum) = Max(brain!scum) - Min(brain!scum)

Hope this helps

[sweetandcool]

I had "undelivered" not a failure.

I think that counts the same here. I would expect you to receive undelivered if you were roleblocked.

Certain results return "Failure" so I think the distinction is important here for clarity.

You are right. That is why I am calling the GM.

But since I know you are town, I know you are not lying about your "undelivered" return.

Is there any way you could possibly have that return other than being role blocked?

[Frogsterking]

@brainbomb

How long have you believed kakarotto is scum?

[Frogsterking]

Can anyone tell me about brain's scum range?

Range(brain!scum) = Max(brain!scum) - Min(brain!scum)

Hope this helps

Okay can you give summaries of the max and the min?

[sweetandcool]

This night is so long, I bet we could run a D&D campaign during it.

Can I be a Human Monk?

I'll be lawful Evil. Greedy Monk. Drinking wine and swimming in gold every chance I get.

[Kakarroto]

Food targeted bunny who was the NK. That would return a failure.

NOPE

This is the order of operations:
1 Human Resources
2 Curfew enforcer
3 Sicko
4 Doctor
5 Detective
6 Electoral Commission Officer
7 Internal Affairs
8 Private Investigator
9 Middle Manager
10 Corrupt Cop
11 Police Commissioner
12 Ruber Driver
13 Pollster
14 DaDa Driver
15 Mafia NK
16 Gerrymander-er
17 Lobbyist
18 Door-Darter
19 Paper Delivery Boy
20 News Host
21 E-Mail Hacker
22 Mail Man

Wow, thanks! I was just reading that list and missed the NK.

Okay, so food was RB. Either by Bob as CE or by Mafia.

Which means Chaqa was role blocked by either Frog as CE or by Mafia.

Then Fisch is lying?

I guess I need to call GM.

ALSO, as a reminder:

Bob might not be sicko, but police commissioner
Jaime might be sicko and not police commissioner

if both are mafia, they would know who they scan at night.
Jamie saw D&K claiming to have targeted bob (instead of brainbomb)
Jamie saw D&K claiming Electoral Commission Officer (foods actual role)
Jamie would've known that bob can't be that.
Jamie would know who bob targeted.
Jamie would now know that food is Electoral Commission Officer
IF Jamie got success return, he would know he is sicko.
so in that case, Jamie could claim Electoral Commission Officer as his message to muddy the waters for town

that might be because bob didn't claim, since Jamie AND D&W claimed to return Electoral Commission Officer and didn't want to cause more trouble.

[brainbomb]

Can anyone tell me about brain's scum range?

I can tell you that it won accolades in mafia world championships season 7, but has never been good on this forum. I often get very agitated as mafia, my posts are mostly jokes, I spam, and usually my play is pretty unhelpful to town. I tend to have less theories about things as mafia and I dont challenge status quo, I tend to argue more and think less about the game in general.

Others can probably sum it up in other ways but I consider myself a shell of who I truly am when I am mafia. I also hate being mafia period, and I find having to charm others and win friends to be alot less enjoyable than the act of pure discovery, and sincerely trying to solve a mystery.

[brainbomb]

@brainbomb

How long have you believed kakarotto is scum?

since he got foodcoats killed with mech shit

[Chaqa]

I think that counts the same here. I would expect you to receive undelivered if you were roleblocked.

Certain results return "Failure" so I think the distinction is important here for clarity.

You are right. That is why I am calling the GM.

But since I know you are town, I know you are not lying about your "undelivered" return.

Is there any way you could possibly have that return other than being role blocked?

Given that I know I targeted Bob, I don't believe so, but I will confirm that.

[brainbomb]

Brain, what all are the takes you have on the players right now? A fair amount of flips you predicted are coming true.

We have only had 3 flips, and both of the day flips were town aligned people who I was voting to eliminate. I would say thats pretty poor predictive skills.

I dont think I had much of an opinion on Bunny other than maybe a light townlean?

I did at times say foodcoats was town leader, and he was my top town. I am gonna blame kak for this one, part of why I no longer trust kak or his plans or his conclusions.

So... what else were you referring too with your post?

[Kakarroto]

Can anyone tell me about brain's scum range?

he gets full weird and pushy on latest D3. Also he fakeclaimes the heck out of it.

I don't see brain as mafia, there were some small indices D1 and N1, but really that could have come from town brain too.

But I'm not the best at reads, so I suggest a second opinion.

[Kakarroto]

This night is so long, I bet we could run a D&D campaign during it.

well, why not. Would you gm?

[Kakarroto]

I think that counts the same here. I would expect you to receive undelivered if you were roleblocked.

Certain results return "Failure" so I think the distinction is important here for clarity.

You are right. That is why I am calling the GM.

But since I know you are town, I know you are not lying about your "undelivered" return.

Is there any way you could possibly have that return other than being role blocked?

if his target died he would also get 'undelivered'

see this cut from the order of operations:

15 Mafia NK
16 Gerrymander-er
17 Lobbyist
18 Door-Darter

[Kakarroto]

@brainbomb

How long have you believed kakarotto is scum?

it began in mafia 63 (don't know the actual game number, but the first game I played here)