Mafia 85: Return from Lockdown

[Nephthys]

All caught up and wow a lot of posts made absolutely no impact on me
Gonna updates some reads soon

[heartthrob24909]

babyspice666 → lfischl
BK3K → Nephthys
BobMcBob → sweetandcool
bozotheclown → worcej
Brainbomb → babyspice666
BunnyGo → BK3K
Chaqa → BobMcBob
Damo666 → bozotheclown
Diplomacy&Warfare → brainbomb
foodcoats → BunnyGo
Frogsterking → Chaqa
Hamilton Brian → damo666
heartthrob24909 → Diplomacy&Warfare
Jamiet99uk → foodcoats
Kakarroto → Frogsterking
lfischl → Hamilton Brian
Nephthys → heartthrob24909
sweetandcool → Jamiet99uk
Worcej → Kakarroto

Implied compliance emboldened in red.

[heartthrob24909]

babyspice666 → lfischl
BK3K → Nephthys
BobMcBob → sweetandcool
bozotheclown → worcej
Brainbomb → babyspice666
BunnyGo → BK3K
Chaqa → BobMcBob
Damo666 → bozotheclown
Diplomacy&Warfare → brainbomb
foodcoats → BunnyGo
Frogsterking → Chaqa
Hamilton Brian → damo666
heartthrob24909 → Diplomacy&Warfare
Jamiet99uk → foodcoats
Kakarroto → Frogsterking
lfischl → Hamilton Brian
Nephthys → heartthrob24909
sweetandcool → Jamiet99uk
Worcej → Kakarroto

Implied compliance emboldened in red.

Haven’t skimmed thread outside of night action chat discourse yet

[foodcoats]

I imagine that at this stage I am not the only player not bothering to read the brain/Jamie back and forth.

I think in general there is a significant number of players who aren't reading the game at all.

I doubt that.

You are either not reading, or you are ignoring my questions about your scumread of Jamie. Which is it and why?

[heartthrob24909]

Was prepared to comply w plans before I started work today

should be around again latwr after night end

[Chaqa]

babyspice666 → lfischl
BK3K → Nephthys
BobMcBob → sweetandcool
bozotheclown → worcej
Brainbomb → babyspice666
BunnyGo → BK3K
Chaqa → BobMcBob
Damo666 → bozotheclown
Diplomacy&Warfare → brainbomb
foodcoats → BunnyGo
Frogsterking → Chaqa
Hamilton Brian → damo666
heartthrob24909 → Diplomacy&Warfare
Jamiet99uk → foodcoats
Kakarroto → Frogsterking
lfischl → Hamilton Brian
Nephthys → heartthrob24909
sweetandcool → Jamiet99uk
Worcej → Kakarroto

Implied compliance emboldened in red.

Is there significance to you using a different color?

[foodcoats]

babyspice666 → lfischl
BK3K → Nephthys
BobMcBob → sweetandcool
bozotheclown → worcej
Brainbomb → babyspice666
BunnyGo → BK3K
Chaqa → BobMcBob
Damo666 → bozotheclown
Diplomacy&Warfare → brainbomb
foodcoats → BunnyGo
Frogsterking → Chaqa
Hamilton Brian → damo666
heartthrob24909 → Diplomacy&Warfare
Jamiet99uk → foodcoats
Kakarroto → Frogsterking
lfischl → Hamilton Brian
Nephthys → heartthrob24909
sweetandcool → Jamiet99uk
Worcej → Kakarroto

Implied compliance emboldened in red.

Is there significance to you using a different color?

Compliance is hot.

[Chaqa]

I imagine that at this stage I am not the only player not bothering to read the brain/Jamie back and forth.

I think in general there is a significant number of players who aren't reading the game at all.

I'm reading it now but I admit I didn't read D1 much

[sweetandcool]

I think in general there is a significant number of players who aren't reading the game at all.

I doubt that.

You are either not reading, or you are ignoring my questions about your scumread of Jamie. Which is it and why?

I'm not doing busywork for no reason. I'd rather spend my time being productive.

Pretty sure you can answer a lot of your questions by just reading.

[brainbomb]

By the way, I checked my blood pressure and it was 156/89 so I think I probably went off the rails a bit earlier.

[foodcoats]

I doubt that.

You are either not reading, or you are ignoring my questions about your scumread of Jamie. Which is it and why?

I'm not doing busywork for no reason. I'd rather spend my time being productive.

Pretty sure you can answer a lot of your questions by just reading.

lol yeah buddy I read your whole iso, and your argument is shit. Here is your chance to make it not shit. Go ahead.

[Nephthys]

VCA

Jamie (7) - Looks bad, is only scum with fisch if BK3K is town also.
Baby (6) - Looks bad
Brain (5) - On page 48 declares fisch/Bk3K in his scum reads (final reads list posted) Then comes out saying he would vote for sweet/Just. Acknowledges that neither are in his top scumreads but stays true. Given that fisch was on 3 and brain was part of it, I'm not against the switch but doesn't reek of town. Null
Hamilton (4) - Eh. nothing wild. No read list but justifies his vote. Nothing too sus here
Bozo (3) - This makes sense, nothing that reeks
Food (2) - Natural progression in logic
Dip (1) - Voted too early for analysis to be useful, seems like a joke vote that went on for too long

[Jamiet99uk]

I am answering your questions. I am granting you a lot of my time and attention.

If you don't realise that a split-second vote to break a tie at EoD is fundamentally different from someone making a case halfway through a day, you surprise me. You know enough about this game to be aware there's a difference.

No Jamie. I do understand all of that. Because I understand you dont tolerate people who play the way you played that. You dont allow people to coast by without explaining themselves. These are YOUR rules for proper play. And you arent able to show evidence of YOU following them.

Breaking a tie with less than 30 seconds to go is not coasting.

Someone who is coasting scum would sit back and not vote at all in that situation.

Are you accusing me of trying to save Town Will by voting Scum!Lfischl?

What do YOU think was the reason for my vote?

You have not explained why you think my *choice* was scummy, even though you apparently scumread the person I voted for.

[foodcoats]

VCA

Jamie (7) - Looks bad, is only scum with fisch if BK3K is town also.
Baby (6) - Looks bad
Brain (5) - On page 48 declares fisch/Bk3K in his scum reads (final reads list posted) Then comes out saying he would vote for sweet/Just. Acknowledges that neither are in his top scumreads but stays true. Given that fisch was on 3 and brain was part of it, I'm not against the switch but doesn't reek of town. Null
Hamilton (4) - Eh. nothing wild. No read list but justifies his vote. Nothing too sus here
Bozo (3) - This makes sense, nothing that reeks
Food (2) - Natural progression in logic
Dip (1) - Voted too early for analysis to be useful, seems like a joke vote that went on for too long

I decided to check HB and noticed he had no scum reads D1. I would usually think "it is easier for scum to make scumreads" and so this doesn't mean HB is scum or whatever, but he is the one to break the 3-way wagon tie at 25 minutes, and he did make a comment at one point that "Will is doing just will things," said he was null on lfischl and that he was not inclined to scumread sweet. So what made him make a move?

Come on down Haas-Bioroid, what made you make that move at that time and what are your current scumreads?

[Jamiet99uk]

VCA

Jamie (7) - Looks bad, is only scum with fisch if BK3K is town also.
Baby (6) - Looks bad
Brain (5) - On page 48 declares fisch/Bk3K in his scum reads (final reads list posted) Then comes out saying he would vote for sweet/Just. Acknowledges that neither are in his top scumreads but stays true. Given that fisch was on 3 and brain was part of it, I'm not against the switch but doesn't reek of town. Null
Hamilton (4) - Eh. nothing wild. No read list but justifies his vote. Nothing too sus here
Bozo (3) - This makes sense, nothing that reeks
Food (2) - Natural progression in logic
Dip (1) - Voted too early for analysis to be useful, seems like a joke vote that went on for too long

What do those numbers mean?

[foodcoats]

VCA

Jamie (7) - Looks bad, is only scum with fisch if BK3K is town also.
Baby (6) - Looks bad
Brain (5) - On page 48 declares fisch/Bk3K in his scum reads (final reads list posted) Then comes out saying he would vote for sweet/Just. Acknowledges that neither are in his top scumreads but stays true. Given that fisch was on 3 and brain was part of it, I'm not against the switch but doesn't reek of town. Null
Hamilton (4) - Eh. nothing wild. No read list but justifies his vote. Nothing too sus here
Bozo (3) - This makes sense, nothing that reeks
Food (2) - Natural progression in logic
Dip (1) - Voted too early for analysis to be useful, seems like a joke vote that went on for too long

What do those numbers mean?

Vote order.

[Jamiet99uk]

VCA

Jamie (7) - Looks bad, is only scum with fisch if BK3K is town also.
Baby (6) - Looks bad
Brain (5) - On page 48 declares fisch/Bk3K in his scum reads (final reads list posted) Then comes out saying he would vote for sweet/Just. Acknowledges that neither are in his top scumreads but stays true. Given that fisch was on 3 and brain was part of it, I'm not against the switch but doesn't reek of town. Null
Hamilton (4) - Eh. nothing wild. No read list but justifies his vote. Nothing too sus here
Bozo (3) - This makes sense, nothing that reeks
Food (2) - Natural progression in logic
Dip (1) - Voted too early for analysis to be useful, seems like a joke vote that went on for too long

What do those numbers mean?

Vote order.

Well then it's wrong, Lfischl should be at 6, he voted at almost the same split second I did.

[foodcoats]

What do those numbers mean?

Vote order.

Well then it's wrong, Lfischl should be at 6, he voted at almost the same split second I did.

oh you know what, you're right, I don't think it is "raw votes on Will" like I was interpreting. I should shut up and let Neph answer. Sorry.

[Nephthys]

Pretty convinced Sweet is town
Food seems town
Brain - Probs town
BK3K - Town based on how my scumreads are voting. Don't have too much to say about their play

Bunny - Strongly dislike the drunk Bunny stuff and mostly filler but I think I know the game plan. Mildest of townleans


Fisch - Another stronger scum read based on interactions and voting. Assumes Bk3K is town
Jamie - Scum, sits off the Will wagon yet still pushes it. Voting is dicey. My top scumread now

[sweetandcool]

You are either not reading, or you are ignoring my questions about your scumread of Jamie. Which is it and why?

I'm not doing busywork for no reason. I'd rather spend my time being productive.

Pretty sure you can answer a lot of your questions by just reading.

lol yeah buddy I read your whole iso, and your argument is shit. Here is your chance to make it not shit. Go ahead.

Too bad.