Mafia 85: Return from Lockdown

[Frogsterking]

Yes, it' L's very allowed. We can say all kinds of useless things overnight.

I've never seen this before

Now you're playing with the cool kids. Not like those dweebs at MafiaUniverse.

How do you like it so far?

I'm liking it, I'm curious what all the bot can do. Can it reproduce specific vote counts?

[foodcoats]

do we really have to do this

(messed up first post)

Probably overcomplicated I agree. I invite something simpler (but not simply alpha order).

no i mean do we have to mech this in the first place

Just consider: what will you do with your return in isolation? What will you do with it? Look at the setup and tell me what you'll do with "Success."

[Frogsterking]

I'm behind by two pages but babyspice looks effing B-A-D.

Not saying they should be the D2 flip but I wouldn't oppose it right now.

This though

[Jamiet99uk]

I've never seen this before

Now you're playing with the cool kids. Not like those dweebs at MafiaUniverse.

How do you like it so far?

I'm liking it, I'm curious what all the bot can do. Can it reproduce specific vote counts?

No, but it contains a full vote history, so you can compile a point-in-time VC yourself by reading across the horizontal rows.

[foodcoats]

Directed PR-actions D1 over free-for-all?

YEA: bozo, damo, Jamie

NEY:

??? (explain below):

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(3/19 voted)

(also I'm soon in my bed, so I wouldn't mind someone else keeping track)

Calling them "directed PR actions" obscures the fact that you can't even properly direct your own action because you don't know what it is and you won't be able to determine what the results mean without cross-referencing. Read the setup and think about it!

[foodcoats]

Massclaim? More like masslame

Do you think it is pro-town to push a town strategy where we get information we can't properly use? Honestly?

[Jamiet99uk]

Massclaim? More like masslame

Do you think it is pro-town to push a town strategy where we get information we can't properly use? Honestly?

He said it was lame.

I took that as meaning Bob disagreed with the strategy. No?

[foodcoats]

1) scum will have game solved much faster

Hey... Bunny... have you heard of a game... called Mafia?

[damo666]

1 babyspice666
2 BK3K
3 BobMcBob
4 bozotheclown
5 Brainbomb
6 BunnyGo
7 Chaqa
8 Damo666
9 Diplomacy&Warfare
10 foodcoats
11 Frogsterking
12 Hamilton Brian
13 heartthrob24909
14 Jamiet99uk
15 Kakarroto
16 lfischl
17 Nephthys
18 sweetandcool
19 Worcej


Suggestion

brain [say] nominates person X

X picks a number 1 to 5 and person Y

person Y picks person Z

Z picks up or down.

The number & up/down determines who you should target

e.g 3 up BK3K targets sweet

This seems random enough.

We need to decide relatively quickly though please so everyone knows what we are doing.

I nominate foodcoats

@food pick a number one to five and a person please (if you want strictly alpha choose 1). The person food picks simply picks another person who nominates up or down.

[BunnyGo]

I've never seen this before

Now you're playing with the cool kids. Not like those dweebs at MafiaUniverse.

How do you like it so far?

I'm liking it, I'm curious what all the bot can do. Can it reproduce specific vote counts?

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[foodcoats]

Massclaim? More like masslame

Do you think it is pro-town to push a town strategy where we get information we can't properly use? Honestly?

He said it was lame.

I took that as meaning Bob disagreed with the strategy. No?

Bob has said at least twice that he opposes mass claiming. I interpret him saying "mass lame" as opposing mass claiming. I am asking him why he would oppose mass claiming when the alternative is that we are all in the dark with our returns.

[Jamiet99uk]

I prefer Kak's proposal where I get to be involved or something.

[foodcoats]

1 babyspice666
2 BK3K
3 BobMcBob
4 bozotheclown
5 Brainbomb
6 BunnyGo
7 Chaqa
8 Damo666
9 Diplomacy&Warfare
10 foodcoats
11 Frogsterking
12 Hamilton Brian
13 heartthrob24909
14 Jamiet99uk
15 Kakarroto
16 lfischl
17 Nephthys
18 sweetandcool
19 Worcej


Suggestion

brain [say] nominates person X

X picks a number 1 to 5 and person Y

person Y picks person Z

Z picks up or down.

The number & up/down determines who you should target

e.g 3 up BK3K targets sweet

This seems random enough.

We need to decide relatively quickly though please so everyone knows what we are doing.

I nominate foodcoats

@food pick a number one to five and a person please (if you want strictly alpha choose 1). The person food picks simply picks another person who nominates up or down.

4

[Jamiet99uk]

Do you think it is pro-town to push a town strategy where we get information we can't properly use? Honestly?

He said it was lame.

I took that as meaning Bob disagreed with the strategy. No?

Bob has said at least twice that he opposes mass claiming. I interpret him saying "mass lame" as opposing mass claiming. I am asking him why he would oppose mass claiming when the alternative is that we are all in the dark with our returns.

Oh right I see, yes, I'm with you.

[Jamiet99uk]

I nominate foodcoats

@food pick a number one to five and a person please (if you want strictly alpha choose 1). The person food picks simply picks another person who nominates up or down.

4

...and a person?

[foodcoats]

@food pick a number one to five and a person please (if you want strictly alpha choose 1). The person food picks simply picks another person who nominates up or down.

4

...and a person?

JamieT!

[bozotheclown]

@damo:

Still catching up. Putting kids to bed. Upshot is 3 concerns:

1) scum will have game solved much faster and know powers to target before we benefit

2) if scum have influence over choice of order they can manipulate things

So I don’t mind the plan so much but would like to add some crypto:

1) use math so nobody chooses the order
2) when you announce your results:

If you got fail, then announce
Otherwise announce both your real result and a result you cannot possibly get. So if you die, we know your real result.

This allows town to solve, while hiding from scum who is who.

Modifications likely good, but the idea of encrypting results is important.

Randomizing the order is good, I think that is in progress. I like part 2 OK (although it requires assuming you are not the mail man), we can always get clarification early if it immediately resolves a 50/50 or generates a town clear.

[Jamiet99uk]

4

...and a person?

JamieT!

I choose DOWN.

So the list is as follows:

4 bozotheclown

targets

5 Brainbomb

targets

6 BunnyGo

targets

7 Chaqa

targets

8 Damo666

targets

9 Diplomacy&Warfare

targets

10 foodcoats

targets

11 Frogsterking

targets

12 Hamilton Brian

targets

13 heartthrob24909

targets

14 Jamiet99uk

targets

15 Kakarroto

targets

16 lfischl

targets

17 Nephthys

targets

18 sweetandcool

targets

19 Worcej

targets

1 babyspice666

targets

2 BK3K

targets

3 BobMcBob

targets

4 Bozotheclown
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Okay? Is that right, and are we clear?

[sweetandcool]

I personally think it's not fun to claim, so I'm against it.

But I will follow the consensus.

That being said, I think if I were Mafia I would find it annoying and uncomfortable to come up with a proper claim, so maybe it is the right choice.

[BunnyGo]

1 babyspice666
2 BK3K
3 BobMcBob
4 bozotheclown
5 Brainbomb
6 BunnyGo
7 Chaqa
8 Damo666
9 Diplomacy&Warfare
10 foodcoats
11 Frogsterking
12 Hamilton Brian
13 heartthrob24909
14 Jamiet99uk
15 Kakarroto
16 lfischl
17 Nephthys
18 sweetandcool
19 Worcej


Suggestion

brain [say] nominates person X

X picks a number 1 to 5 and person Y

person Y picks person Z

Z picks up or down.

The number & up/down determines who you should target

e.g 3 up BK3K targets sweet

This seems random enough.

We need to decide relatively quickly though please so everyone knows what we are doing.

I nominate foodcoats

@food pick a number one to five and a person please (if you want strictly alpha choose 1). The person food picks simply picks another person who nominates up or down.

You realize if food is scum none of this matters?