Mafia 85: Return from Lockdown

[brainbomb]

Not sure if this was asked elsewhere but
If someone gets doc saved the doctor gets a note saying success.

does the person who survives the night attack also get a notice letting them know they survived an attack?

##Call GM

The would be victim has no idea. They just took their vitamins and didn't notice the arsenic sandwich etc.

so the doctor in this setup is completely unverifiable in any way at all

[Kakarroto]

hmm ... actually, why not?

Why shouldn't I vote chaqa? Just so he does something.

##vote Chaqa

Killing me in fact prevents me from doing something.

My role was so good they redacted it, so I’d let me live

fair point, if you say the truth.

Also, I kinda don't like bob voting with me here. Bob wasn't too bad, but something did bother me. My kak-sense is ringing.

Hmm ... ##vote B3K3

trying to by my sympathy with voting up my posts, chaqa?

grmph I want to say how dare you, but it's kinda working ...

[TheMadMonarch]

Ghug's GM responses were all correct. If you've got any more questions, I'm here now.

if someone gets saved by the doctor what do they get for a message

As stated above, the person being saved receives no additional message.

[ghug]

Vote Count:

lfischl (3): brainbomb, Chaqa, Jamiet99uk
sweetandcool (3): damo666, BunnyGo, lfischl
JustAGuyNamedWill (2): Diplomacy&Warfare, foodcoats, bozotheclown
Chaqa (2): BobMcBob, Kakarroto
Frogsterking (2): JustAGuyNamedWill, sweetandcool
Kakarroto (1): Nephthys
BobMcBob (1): heartthrob24909
Diplomacy&Warfare (1): BK3K
brainbomb (1): worcej

End-votes (1/20): Diplomacy&Warfare

Currently, nobody is scheduled to receive an eviction notice nailed to their door and be forced to reckon with the harsh realities of living unhoused in the winter. 58 minutes remain in D1.

The following players have not voted and must vote to meet participation requirements:
babyspice666 (also needs one more post to meet posting requirements)
Frogsterking

Because the rules doc, which lays out the two post/one vote minima , was vote available, there will be no punishments for failing to meet participation requirements Day 1. Please try to meet them regardless.

will has 3 i think right?

This is correct. The listed votes are accurate, just the number is wrong.

You losers kept voting while I was typing it up.

[Chaqa]

Killing me in fact prevents me from doing something.

My role was so good they redacted it, so I’d let me live

fair point, if you say the truth.

Also, I kinda don't like bob voting with me here. Bob wasn't too bad, but something did bother me. My kak-sense is ringing.

Hmm ... ##vote B3K3

trying to by my sympathy with voting up my posts, chaqa?

grmph I want to say how dare you, but it's kinda working ...

I haven’t been at my PC since Thursday so I can’t +1 everything like I’d like to unfortunately.

I’m thinking of writing a script to do it lol

[sweetandcool]

This scumtell stuff is going to look really silly when I flip.

I'm not voting fisch because I really don't understand the case against them either way.

In fact, I'm a better flip because of this scum tell nonsense. It's never going away so I'm a guaranteed MK at some point.

[ghug]

Vote Count:

lfischl (3): brainbomb, Chaqa, Jamiet99uk
sweetandcool (3): damo666, BunnyGo, lfischl
JustAGuyNamedWill (2): Diplomacy&Warfare, foodcoats, bozotheclown
Chaqa (2): BobMcBob, Kakarroto
Frogsterking (2): JustAGuyNamedWill, sweetandcool
Kakarroto (1): Nephthys
BobMcBob (1): heartthrob24909
Diplomacy&Warfare (1): BK3K
brainbomb (1): worcej

End-votes (1/20): Diplomacy&Warfare

Currently, nobody is scheduled to receive an eviction notice nailed to their door and be forced to reckon with the harsh realities of living unhoused in the winter. 58 minutes remain in D1.

The following players have not voted and must vote to meet participation requirements:
babyspice666 (also needs one more post to meet posting requirements)
Frogsterking

Because the rules doc, which lays out the two post/one vote minima , was vote available, there will be no punishments for failing to meet participation requirements Day 1. Please try to meet them regardless.

will has 3 i think right?

This is correct. The listed votes are accurate, just the number is wrong.

You losers kept voting while I was typing it up.

Also, the bottom message should read "Because the rules doc, which lays out the two post/one vote minima, was not available, there will be no punishments for failing to meet participation requirements Day 1. Please try to meet them regardless."

In this case I can sadly only blame myself.

[Kakarroto]

This scumtell stuff is going to look really silly when I flip.

I'm not voting fisch because I really don't understand the case against them either way.

In fact, I'm a better flip because of this scum tell nonsense. It's never going away so I'm a guaranteed MK at some point.

I also have no idea what they think they saw. Like totally oblivious. I think you have a small chance of being mafia, but I think you're not.

But, if you are the target today, it would be nice to have your thoughts on file. I think we could use them for the future. Not only your reads, also your thoughts for the bozo system with randomization. Do you like it? Do you want changes? Should we not do it?

And other stuff you think we can use and/or are important.

[heartthrob24909]

At this point everyone is null to me, except for neph. I very slightly scumread neph, because they got immediately into the mechs, which feels to me like scum thinking of a strategy beforehand and then implementing it too fast.

I could just as easily be wrong but who knows. Only neph.

Also @Frogster if you weren’t from a completely separate community I would say suspicion for another player this early is not a good look, but I digress.

ok, i can see this. add neph to the scum pool and will to the town pool

What here inspires promoting Just to your small but mighty town pool? Posting a take you agree with?

[Hamilton Brian]

Y'all are moving too fast on me.

I love all this crap about scumtells because that's exactly what I think it is...

I mean even the glaring former examples of "low post volume" have been dispelled.

I am not inclined to consider sweet as scum.
I am inclined to give lfishl the benefit of the doubt for D1.
Chaqa seems to be playing to type...sits there in the duckblind quietly while watching for the birdies to fly out.

I agree with Kak; I don't see these tells.

[Hamilton Brian]

We need flips though; I've got a feeling about Food and of the competitive wagons, I'd go for Will first.

##Vote JustAGuyNamedWill

@Kak, you don't think this is Chaqa being Chaqa?

[Frogsterking]

##vote BK3K

I nominate this for a flash wagon. Of the existing top wagons I'd vote sweetandcool. I'm with family and trying to get a hang of the bot on my phone.

[sweetandcool]

This scumtell stuff is going to look really silly when I flip.

I'm not voting fisch because I really don't understand the case against them either way.

In fact, I'm a better flip because of this scum tell nonsense. It's never going away so I'm a guaranteed MK at some point.

I also have no idea what they think they saw. Like totally oblivious. I think you have a small chance of being mafia, but I think you're not.

But, if you are the target today, it would be nice to have your thoughts on file. I think we could use them for the future. Not only your reads, also your thoughts for the bozo system with randomization. Do you like it? Do you want changes? Should we not do it?

And other stuff you think we can use and/or are important.

I'm sorry I can't play properly on Sundays. Which is going to be my demise yet again.

People scum me D1 because I don't care and I hate D1 and don't know anything. And then I find sweet relief once I've found a reasonable vote, as either alignment.

If I survive D1, I tend to stay in game because I can put up some nice (not necessarily accurate) cases together and I work hard. But until they see that work, which they will not see on a Sunday, then they scum read me.

I can't add anything new, some of my thoughts should be clear from my ISO, Kak. Sorry that's all I have.

[Hamilton Brian]

##vote BK3K

I nominate this for a flash wagon. Of the existing top wagons I'd vote sweetandcool. I'm with family and trying to get a hang of the bot on my phone.

I was waiting to see where you'd land your vote. Interesting choice. Why them?Kind of a vanity wagon, yeah?

[TheMadMonarch]

Vote Count 1.I dunno

JustAGuyNamedWill (4) Diplomacy&Warfare*, foodcoats, bozotheclown, Hamilton Brian
sweetandcool (3) damo666, BunnyGo, lfischl
Chaqa (3) BobMcBob, Kakarroto, worcej
lfischl (3) brainbomb, Chaqa, Jamiet99uk
Frogsterking (2), JustAGuyNamedWill, sweetandcool
Kakarroto (1) Nephthys
BobMcBob (1) heartthrob24909
Diplomacy&Warfare (1) BK3K
BK3K (1) Frogsterking

Currently JustAGuyNamedWill is set to be evicted.

Babyspice666 still needs to cast a valid vote.

[brainbomb]

##Vote Justaguy

I will join this

[damo666]

I don't understand the mechanism Kak is describing.

Does he mean that for each player, Brainbomb would select 5 possible targets, thus 95 total selections from which I would pick 19?

I thought he just meant 5 lists.

5 lists of what?

19 people have to enter orders.

I still don't understand the proposal.

5 methods

e.g. nth live player below your name where n is 1 to 5 and the list is circular. Taint difficult. Can we leave it until after EOD pleeeeeze

[BobMcBob]

Hmm, wagons at the moment are not amazing. Fisch wagon kinda stinks, it feels like nobody on it actually cares about it much.

I'm not a fan of "says weird things" as a case on Will (according to food), because saying weird things is generally what I do.

Sweet wagon is fine except too much of it revolves around a mystical scumtell that nobody wants to talk about. Fisch's vote here feels opportunistic.

[heartthrob24909]

##vote lfischl

Of the leading wagons his is the one I am most actively curious about flipping. So many people talked about his meta specifically today that this might be insightful either way.

I feel like Just and Sweet are constantly scumread so I don't assign a whole lot of credibility to those wagons at this point before having gotten D1 results and doing a reread.

[Kakarroto]

We need flips though; I've got a feeling about Food and of the competitive wagons, I'd go for Will first.

##Vote JustAGuyNamedWill

@Kak, you don't think this is Chaqa being Chaqa?

sure, it could be chaqa just being chaqa. But there are some aspects of chaqa that aren't the best for playing mafia, at least in terms of town pros-cons, like being lazy or not posting much on D1. That could easily used by maf-chaqa to just appear being 'oh, its just chaqa'. So he definitely need to ramp that up.

but I like playing with chaqa, he is fun. And he can be good if he tries, if he is town. And since I haven't gotten good vibes from B2D2 I changed, but that's not chaqa.