Mafia 85: Return from Lockdown

[brainbomb]

##Vote Lfischl

You still want this, Brainbomb?

sure. stick around

[ghug]

The standard rules can be found at:

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1317yTgrMyXoCIJBoNK6_-oR__qDXB-HyI2ragf83yiE/edit?pli=1#heading=h.b5s05kv8seyu

[Kakarroto]

Be the change you want to see in the world.

Watcha thinkin’ about?

Well...pondering Just right now.

I find him to be "wrong" (IMHO, but obviously he's thinking in complete and coherent ways) a lot. But this statement about bozo is a different way of being wrong.

Trying to decide how he would get to it as town. Or as scum.

Besides that, hoping babyspice shows up a bit.

pondering why you were so wrong about what worcej wrote despite several people telling you.


you?

Well, after they told me I realized that I was wrong about worcej’s “slip.” A man can be wrong and learn from his mistakes, can’t he? (I didn’t post about it because Jamie said it was clogging the thread.)

I have never played with Will but I almost feel they are obvscum with how many weird things they’ve said.

##VOTE JustAGuyNamedWill

If I've learned one thing in the game where I was mafia and will was town, and at the final 4 town choose will over me, is that will just says stuff that makes him look sooo obvious mafia. Just reread the game, you will see, ND tunneled on him, got off of him, and tunneled him again for totally unrelated posts. I don't think we can determine his alignment with only his posts.

HOWEVER; I'm not going to say not to vote him, since it could very well be that he is mafia. And if he survives long enough and is town, he probably is a very good candidate for mafias mis-vote list and might cost us the game that way.

That said, he did a great job as a PR last game, so I'm hesitant to vote him. Please decide for yourself. But don't focus on only those obvious maf things he says; he does it as town too.

[lfischl]

Does the mafia being able or not being able to target each other affect your opinion on if this is a good idea? The setup does not say they can't.

If mafia can't target each other I think it's honestly worse, because then if the town PRs who reveal the targets are on a mafia, it's super obvious and I just think that isn't fun. I'd rather we go through the process and figure it out rather than using an organized mechanic or something.

I doubt anything that easily broken would be accepted by the council and ghug would've rejected it.

I mean I don't really want to write out the whole thing, but it seems not too difficult to figure out the mafia through everyone picking a different person

[lfischl]

also @bunnygo I think you are right about the scumtell for sweet

##vote sweetandcool

[worcej]

I have a thought on this sweet scumtell thing that I am going to put to the GT

[heartthrob24909]

Hi everyone, I'm back for the end of the phase. Sorry to not have been around much thus far; I will be bouncing between a catching up from 33 and keeping up with the live updates from 60 onwards.

[bozotheclown]

I have seen bozo online on this forum multiple times, and it seems like after most of them, he posts nothing

What exactly did you mean by having seen me online?

I don't have any strong scum suspects, but I don't like this post, because my online status has always been hidden, and Just seemed to be trying to make me look suspicious for being online and not posting by making a claim that I think is more likely fabricated than the result of a mistake. I also find it suspicious that Just seemed to be suddenly repeating reasons for scum reading me that others had recently expressed.

##VOTE JustAGuyNamedWill

[heartthrob24909]

@BunnyGo : if you were the vigilante, would you use a shot on sweetandcool during D1?

[Chaqa]

Door Darter

##CALL GM

What is “the food?” Is this an item?

Note that I am attempting to answer questions to the best of my ability while the primary GM is asleep. She may correct me later on.

The recipient will be informed that they received food. The food itself has no impact on the game beyond the notification.

Fruit vendor!

[ghug]

Vote Count:

lfischl (3): brainbomb, Chaqa, Jamiet99uk
sweetandcool (3): damo666, BunnyGo, lfischl
JustAGuyNamedWill (2): Diplomacy&Warfare, foodcoats, bozotheclown
Chaqa (2): BobMcBob, Kakarroto
Frogsterking (2): JustAGuyNamedWill, sweetandcool
Kakarroto (1): Nephthys
BobMcBob (1): heartthrob24909
Diplomacy&Warfare (1): BK3K
brainbomb (1): worcej

End-votes (1/20): Diplomacy&Warfare

Currently, nobody is scheduled to receive an eviction notice nailed to their door and be forced to reckon with the harsh realities of living unhoused in the winter. 58 minutes remain in D1.

The following players have not voted and must vote to meet participation requirements:
babyspice666 (also needs one more post to meet posting requirements)
Frogsterking

Because the rules doc, which lays out the two post/one vote minima , was vote available, there will be no punishments for failing to meet participation requirements Day 1. Please try to meet them regardless.

[Kakarroto]

@kak why are you voting damo?

@fishy why do you think I'm voting sweet?

@bozo do you have any non-mech thoughts to share?

well, at first it was half a joke for him causing my demise last game and revenge for him causing my demise last game. Then he didn't post for a while and I didn't like that. When he posted he didn't occured overly town to me, so I stayed. I changed my vote to 'someone' after a GM post we should "vote someone", so I followed the GM. The bot didn't pick that up and pretty much nobody reacted to my joke, so I let it sit.

I was pondering where to change my vote, if I would change it, when there was much going on in the thread. I could see me vote lfischl, but he seemed to post more than usual and I don't feel like to punish that, since I want to see him post (even more). I am however not wanting sweet to go. I also don't think frog is mafia so that's not a vote choice either. So that's why it probably appears to me voting damo.

There are 19 non-you players. All of whom are within 3 votes of being a leading wagon.

besides fish and frog, who WON'T you vote?

definitely not brain or sweet, also not jamie or worcej (well maybe to save myself, but that is probably not needed). I think food and you, bunny, would be wrong to vote out today too. My impression of bozo grew a lot with him talking, so I think I wouldn't want to vote him today too. I can see where Nephthys is coming from even when totally uninformed about my playstyle, so that's a townslot probably, which I kinda don't want to vote, even if it's annoying.

I think that's about all

[Chaqa]

I could vote sweet or justaguy

the thing is they are not in my top 6 scumreads even. and I feel barely anything that would make me think theyre mafia

I feel way more inclined to kill among frog-lfischl-chaqa

hmm ... actually, why not?

Why shouldn't I vote chaqa? Just so he does something.

##vote Chaqa

Killing me in fact prevents me from doing something.

My role was so good they redacted it, so I’d let me live

[lfischl]

Vote Count:

lfischl (3): brainbomb, Chaqa, Jamiet99uk
sweetandcool (3): damo666, BunnyGo, lfischl
JustAGuyNamedWill (2): Diplomacy&Warfare, foodcoats, bozotheclown
Chaqa (2): BobMcBob, Kakarroto
Frogsterking (2): JustAGuyNamedWill, sweetandcool
Kakarroto (1): Nephthys
BobMcBob (1): heartthrob24909
Diplomacy&Warfare (1): BK3K
brainbomb (1): worcej

End-votes (1/20): Diplomacy&Warfare

Currently, nobody is scheduled to receive an eviction notice nailed to their door and be forced to reckon with the harsh realities of living unhoused in the winter. 58 minutes remain in D1.

The following players have not voted and must vote to meet participation requirements:
babyspice666 (also needs one more post to meet posting requirements)
Frogsterking

Because the rules doc, which lays out the two post/one vote minima , was vote available, there will be no punishments for failing to meet participation requirements Day 1. Please try to meet them regardless.

will has 3 i think right?

[TheMadMonarch]

Not sure if this was asked elsewhere but
If someone gets doc saved the doctor gets a note saying success.

does the person who survives the night attack also get a notice letting them know they survived an attack?

##Call GM

The would be victim has no idea. They just took their vitamins and didn't notice the arsenic sandwich etc.

[TheMadMonarch]

Ghug's GM responses were all correct. If you've got any more questions, I'm here now.

[babyspice666]

hi still here and reading, promise i will vote before the day ends

[Kakarroto]

I could vote sweet or justaguy

the thing is they are not in my top 6 scumreads even. and I feel barely anything that would make me think theyre mafia

I feel way more inclined to kill among frog-lfischl-chaqa

hmm ... actually, why not?

Why shouldn't I vote chaqa? Just so he does something.

##vote Chaqa

Killing me in fact prevents me from doing something.

My role was so good they redacted it, so I’d let me live

fair point, if you say the truth.

Also, I kinda don't like bob voting with me here. Bob wasn't too bad, but something did bother me. My kak-sense is ringing.

Hmm ... ##vote B3K3

[worcej]

##vote Chaqa

[brainbomb]

Ghug's GM responses were all correct. If you've got any more questions, I'm here now.

if someone gets saved by the doctor what do they get for a message