M1027: Community - Game Thread

[Chaqa]

@Chaqa,

Is this going to be your first kid?

Yes

[worcej]

sweetandcool's Plan:

VT Vote N, where N is not sweet/BK3K.
Investigator scans M where M is not sweet/BK3K.

1. N and M are not paired.

Result: sweet and BK3K are townclear. We now resolve the 50/50.

Eh?

How does this townclear both of you?

How does proving that, for instance, Worcej and Chaqa are not paired, reveal anything about your alignment, Sweet?

If myself and Chaqa are not paired, then sweet and BK3K are for sure town as the only option for them to be scum is they must be scum together.

The problem I have with sweet's plan is it's far more likely we learn another pair of players are aligned (example: rdr and myself) and that doesn't provide a 50/50 to get a scum, it leaves us with a 50/50 that might both be town.

[sweetandcool]

@Chaqa,

Is this going to be your first kid?

Yes

How special. Good luck with parenthood. Fingers crossed you get an easy one for your first.

[JustAGuyNamedWill]

sweetandcool's Plan:

VT Vote N, where N is not sweet/BK3K.
Investigator scans M where M is not sweet/BK3K.

1. N and M are not paired.

Result: sweet and BK3K are townclear. We now resolve the 50/50.

Eh?

How does this townclear both of you?

How does proving that, for instance, Worcej and Chaqa are not paired, reveal anything about your alignment, Sweet?

If myself and Chaqa are not paired, then sweet and BK3K are for sure town as the only option for them to be scum is they must be scum together.

The problem I have with sweet's plan is it's far more likely we learn another pair of players are aligned (example: rdr and myself) and that doesn't provide a 50/50 to get a scum, it leaves us with a 50/50 that might both be town.

I think this proposal from sweet is misleading. It really only points out the best case scenario, and even then we only have a 50/50 of getting mafia, and there is still 1 mafia not found.

[sweetandcool]

sweetandcool's Plan:

VT Vote N, where N is not sweet/BK3K.
Investigator scans M where M is not sweet/BK3K.

1. N and M are not paired.

Result: sweet and BK3K are townclear. We now resolve the 50/50.

Eh?

How does this townclear both of you?

How does proving that, for instance, Worcej and Chaqa are not paired, reveal anything about your alignment, Sweet?

If myself and Chaqa are not paired, then sweet and BK3K are for sure town as the only option for them to be scum is they must be scum together.

The problem I have with sweet's plan is it's far more likely we learn another pair of players are aligned (example: rdr and myself) and that doesn't provide a 50/50 to get a scum, it leaves us with a 50/50 that might both be town.

That's the brilliance of the buckets. We would have two buckets consisting of paired players and a larger bucket of three players. Scum would have to completely be contained in one of those buckets.

[worcej]

Heart first posted about the 3 person scan at 3:58pm PST (so 4:00pm). The argument was then resolved around page 93 at 6:42pm PST (so 6:45pm)

That took us approx. 2:45 to propose, argue about, and resolve the plan.

This is why I find sweet's stance on the lack of time to be silly...

[worcej]

Eh?

How does this townclear both of you?

How does proving that, for instance, Worcej and Chaqa are not paired, reveal anything about your alignment, Sweet?

If myself and Chaqa are not paired, then sweet and BK3K are for sure town as the only option for them to be scum is they must be scum together.

The problem I have with sweet's plan is it's far more likely we learn another pair of players are aligned (example: rdr and myself) and that doesn't provide a 50/50 to get a scum, it leaves us with a 50/50 that might both be town.

That's the brilliance of the buckets. We would have two buckets consisting of paired players and a larger bucket of three players. Scum would have to completely be contained in one of those buckets.

I choose to empower town votes over limiting scum kills.

[sweetandcool]

Eh?

How does this townclear both of you?

How does proving that, for instance, Worcej and Chaqa are not paired, reveal anything about your alignment, Sweet?

If myself and Chaqa are not paired, then sweet and BK3K are for sure town as the only option for them to be scum is they must be scum together.

The problem I have with sweet's plan is it's far more likely we learn another pair of players are aligned (example: rdr and myself) and that doesn't provide a 50/50 to get a scum, it leaves us with a 50/50 that might both be town.

I think this proposal from sweet is misleading. It really only points out the best case scenario, and even then we only have a 50/50 of getting mafia, and there is still 1 mafia not found.

My plan is posed in the most pessimistic way possible. I assume scum NK investigator tonight.

[JustAGuyNamedWill]

If myself and Chaqa are not paired, then sweet and BK3K are for sure town as the only option for them to be scum is they must be scum together.

The problem I have with sweet's plan is it's far more likely we learn another pair of players are aligned (example: rdr and myself) and that doesn't provide a 50/50 to get a scum, it leaves us with a 50/50 that might both be town.

I think this proposal from sweet is misleading. It really only points out the best case scenario, and even then we only have a 50/50 of getting mafia, and there is still 1 mafia not found.

My plan is posed in the most pessimistic way possible. I assume scum NK investigator tonight.

If so, doing a 3 person scan still gives us a good chance

[worcej]

Also - no, they wouldn't have to stay in any bucket.

It's 6-2, soon to be 5-2. They could avoid a bucket and make it 4-2 still and you're left trying to analyze if the 2 buckets are both town, if one is scum, who are they?

potential clears at 5-2 forces scum to kill in the clears, which could ensure more scans.

[JustAGuyNamedWill]

Also - no, they wouldn't have to stay in any bucket.

It's 6-2, soon to be 5-2. They could avoid a bucket and make it 4-2 still and you're left trying to analyze if the 2 buckets are both town, if one is scum, who are they?

potential clears at 5-2 forces scum to kill in the clears, which could ensure more scans.

As long as investigator doesnt die this round we should be in an amazing position.

[worcej]

The scum team has shown poor ability to PR hunt this game lol

[JustAGuyNamedWill]

If the scum are as confused as I am about the investigator then we’ll be fine

[JustAGuyNamedWill]

Eh?

How does this townclear both of you?

How does proving that, for instance, Worcej and Chaqa are not paired, reveal anything about your alignment, Sweet?

If myself and Chaqa are not paired, then sweet and BK3K are for sure town as the only option for them to be scum is they must be scum together.

The problem I have with sweet's plan is it's far more likely we learn another pair of players are aligned (example: rdr and myself) and that doesn't provide a 50/50 to get a scum, it leaves us with a 50/50 that might both be town.

That's the brilliance of the buckets. We would have two buckets consisting of paired players and a larger bucket of three players. Scum would have to completely be contained in one of those buckets.

This is a very weird way to phrase an argument AGAINST hearts plan. “Thats the genius of” is an “I agree” way to respond to an argument. Cant tell if this is deliberate or not.

[heartthrob24909]

@Chaqa,

Is this going to be your first kid?

Yes

Congrats!

[JustAGuyNamedWill]

@Chaqa,

Is this going to be your first kid?

Yes

Congratulations!

[BunnyGo]

Night has ended.

PLEASE HOLD.

[BunnyGo]

What was he doing here?

What he thought would be another forgetful date among many, had turned into two. Then she proposed volunteering at the soup kitchen together.

He wanted to say “no.” Wanted to go chill at the beach.

But here he was. Chopping onions and peeling potatoes.

And for the first time in weeks, he felt good about himself again. He hadn’t been this happy in a while.

The community has investigated. And chaqa has been found by the community to be VANILLA TOWN.

BK3K HAS DIED. HE WAS VANILLA TOWN.

DAY 5 has begun. You may now post.

[sweetandcool]

Well, we caught scum.

##VOTE Chaqa
##END

Thank goodness BK3K wasn't investigator, I actually thought there was a good chance of that.

[JustAGuyNamedWill]

##VOTE CHAQA

I will be making a BK3K type spreadsheet of every single possibly scenario