M1027: Community - Game Thread

[worcej]

I think the vote for BK3K is the most optimum.

Let’s say we get another parity - use rdr and myself for an example. We learn that me and him are on a team while sweet and BK3K are on a team too. This doesn’t result in clear path forward, it just eliminates pairs and creates no clears. The best case is we get another pair of players that are opposite alignment - we’re more likely to get the rdr and me situation though…

We’re at a point where getting clears is immensely valuable and can auto this game.

Mathing again - next phase is 5-2…

If we “miss” and the scanned person is killed and then we know BK3K and sweet are scum - it’s 3-2 the next vote and we auto-win.

If we “hit” and the scanned person is scum, it comes down to 5-1 with 2 clears and possibly more scans to keep the chain going.

Again. Welcome to the party. Where were you before the hammer?

okay, I am at the party - who are the idiots who are arguing against it?

[heartthrob24909]

I support VTs targeting BK3K in the scan

[Chaqa]

Will still has not explained his plan nor why he thinks I'm opposed to it.

Plan is a few pages back.

I just assumed that calling me scummy in your head discredited my plan as something that mafia could get away with

I'm having trouble understanding it.

[JustAGuyNamedWill]

I think the vote for BK3K is the most optimum.

Let’s say we get another parity - use rdr and myself for an example. We learn that me and him are on a team while sweet and BK3K are on a team too. This doesn’t result in clear path forward, it just eliminates pairs and creates no clears. The best case is we get another pair of players that are opposite alignment - we’re more likely to get the rdr and me situation though…

We’re at a point where getting clears is immensely valuable and can auto this game.

Mathing again - next phase is 5-2…

If we “miss” and the scanned person is killed and then we know BK3K and sweet are scum - it’s 3-2 the next vote and we auto-win.

If we “hit” and the scanned person is scum, it comes down to 5-1 with 2 clears and possibly more scans to keep the chain going.

Again. Welcome to the party. Where were you before the hammer?

okay, I am at the party - who are the idiots who are arguing against it?

Sweet actively opposes it. BK pointed out some edge cases which are very unlikely and still give town a statistical advantage in all possible scenarios. Heart did the same as BK.

[JustAGuyNamedWill]

Will still has not explained his plan nor why he thinks I'm opposed to it.

Plan is a few pages back.

I just assumed that calling me scummy in your head discredited my plan as something that mafia could get away with

I'm having trouble understanding it.

What edge cases are you thinking about?

[Chaqa]

I think if I follow it, you want to chain a third scan to B3K?

[sweetandcool]

Worcej and Chaqa both cast end votes while implying that they had not read recent thread happenings. They set up an opportunity for ghug to seal the day.

##vote ghug
##end

Also good with a heart night vote.

And to clarify - this means BK3K and Sweet are opposite alignments?

^Would town still not know how to read the investigation results?

Getting caught up but obviously
##Vote ghug
##END

FWIW, it isn’t scummy to end the phase on a confirmed scum. Keep the momentum moving forward.

If the conversation you find important stops, that’s your fault not mine.

It's the abundance of shit takes like this one that has made this the single most difficult game of Mafia for me, which is shocking considering how town-sided the investigation mechanic is. I can't sort when too many people are saying things that are helpful to Mafia.

[worcej]

I think if I follow it, you want to chain a third scan to B3K?

Second scan, which chains a 3rd person.

We either get 3 clears or a 50/50 again.

[Chaqa]

I think if I follow it, you want to chain a third scan to B3K?

Second scan, which chains a 3rd person.

We either get 3 clears or a 50/50 again.

Yeah, I like this because it keeps us out of the awkward multiple 50/50 pairings as we near LYLO problem.

[worcej]

Worcej and Chaqa both cast end votes while implying that they had not read recent thread happenings. They set up an opportunity for ghug to seal the day.



^Would town still not know how to read the investigation results?

FWIW, it isn’t scummy to end the phase on a confirmed scum. Keep the momentum moving forward.

If the conversation you find important stops, that’s your fault not mine.

It's the abundance of shit takes like this one that has made this the single most difficult game of Mafia for me, which is shocking considering how town-sided the investigation mechanic is. I can't sort when too many people are saying things that are helpful to Mafia.

Yeah, when you get to like 40+ games of Mafia here like me, you can scold my take here.

I have seen MANY games die out because scum drag a game out and keep phases running longer than needed by not hammering phases, to get town interest to drain and their desire to keep the process going.

[worcej]

I think if I follow it, you want to chain a third scan to B3K?

Second scan, which chains a 3rd person.

We either get 3 clears or a 50/50 again.

Yeah, I like this because it keeps us out of the awkward multiple 50/50 pairings as we near LYLO problem.

Exactly - the two sets of pairs getting into the next phases is the worst case scenario and is probable.

[Chaqa]

I'm with worcej re: the end vote. I won't apologize for it.

[worcej]

I'm with worcej re: the end vote. I won't apologize for it.

We’re here to kill scum. When one is in the unquestionably caught, you hammer down and send them to the GT.

[BK3K]

I did a table of analysis in Excel, is it legal to paste an imgur link to a photo of that analysis?

[worcej]

I did a table of analysis in Excel, is it legal to paste an imgur link to a photo of that analysis?

I think so because it’s a link. Just make it an image.

[BK3K]

I did a table of analysis in Excel, is it legal to paste an imgur link to a photo of that analysis?

I think so because it’s a link. Just make it an image.

Imgur wasn't working

https://postimg.cc/pms16qC7

I think the plan is good tho

[worcej]

Quick look and I follow your logic and outcomes. They are all super dependent on scum NK choice.

IDGAF about getting spewed for this - but scum would be dumb to kill sweet or BK3K now, assuming they are town. They have 25% odds of hitting the investigator now and need to hit them or they are fucked. Will thinking one of these guys would get killed seemed odd after all the math he’s tried to do…

[BK3K]

FWIW, it isn’t scummy to end the phase on a confirmed scum. Keep the momentum moving forward.

If the conversation you find important stops, that’s your fault not mine.

It's the abundance of shit takes like this one that has made this the single most difficult game of Mafia for me, which is shocking considering how town-sided the investigation mechanic is. I can't sort when too many people are saying things that are helpful to Mafia.

Yeah, when you get to like 40+ games of Mafia here like me, you can scold my take here.

I have seen MANY games die out because scum drag a game out and keep phases running longer than needed by not hammering phases, to get town interest to drain and their desire to keep the process going.

You've played 40+ games? How do you have the bandwidth? This is exhausting lol. And I say this as one of the lower effort players

[worcej]

It's the abundance of shit takes like this one that has made this the single most difficult game of Mafia for me, which is shocking considering how town-sided the investigation mechanic is. I can't sort when too many people are saying things that are helpful to Mafia.

Yeah, when you get to like 40+ games of Mafia here like me, you can scold my take here.

I have seen MANY games die out because scum drag a game out and keep phases running longer than needed by not hammering phases, to get town interest to drain and their desire to keep the process going.

You've played 40+ games? How do you have the bandwidth? This is exhausting lol. And I say this as one of the lower effort players

Been here since like 2018? We used to fire a game off every month.

[worcej]

Can confirm - early 2018 lol