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Re: M1027: Community - Game Thread

#1701 Post by JustAGuyNamedWill » Thu Jan 04, 2024 12:20 am

sweetandcool wrote:
Thu Jan 04, 2024 12:17 am
I think Heart and Will realize the power of the Parity scan, and are desperate to make us waste time.

Killing Bozo because the rest of town seems apathetic and not solving, and they knew he would stick to the parity plan.

I think they are so desperate they are willing to even be obvious now.
Sweet, with my post, I mathematically solved the game. At worst case scenario, its 4-1 with one clear

At best case scenario, which has a probability of over 50%, town automatically wins the game.

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Re: M1027: Community - Game Thread

#1702 Post by JustAGuyNamedWill » Thu Jan 04, 2024 12:20 am

Sweet, I caught you.

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Re: M1027: Community - Game Thread

#1703 Post by JustAGuyNamedWill » Thu Jan 04, 2024 12:21 am

sweetandcool wrote:
Thu Jan 04, 2024 12:17 am
I think Heart and Will realize the power of the Parity scan, and are desperate to make us waste time.

Killing Bozo because the rest of town seems apathetic and not solving, and they knew he would stick to the parity plan.

I think they are so desperate they are willing to even be obvious now.
Give me every scenario possible with the parity scan. Then we’ll see Mr. Smarty

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Re: M1027: Community - Game Thread

#1704 Post by JustAGuyNamedWill » Thu Jan 04, 2024 12:22 am

Cmon man! Tackle the rookie! Give me your best shot ;) 8-)

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Re: M1027: Community - Game Thread

#1705 Post by sweetandcool » Thu Jan 04, 2024 12:23 am

JustAGuyNamedWill wrote:
Thu Jan 04, 2024 12:20 am
sweetandcool wrote:
Thu Jan 04, 2024 12:17 am
I think Heart and Will realize the power of the Parity scan, and are desperate to make us waste time.

Killing Bozo because the rest of town seems apathetic and not solving, and they knew he would stick to the parity plan.

I think they are so desperate they are willing to even be obvious now.
Sweet, with my post, I mathematically solved the game. At worst case scenario, its 4-1 with one clear

At best case scenario, which has a probability of over 50%, town automatically wins the game.
I doubt it actually works. But I guess I'll analyze your plan and see if it actually works.

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Re: M1027: Community - Game Thread

#1706 Post by JustAGuyNamedWill » Thu Jan 04, 2024 12:23 am

sweetandcool wrote:
Thu Jan 04, 2024 12:23 am
JustAGuyNamedWill wrote:
Thu Jan 04, 2024 12:20 am
sweetandcool wrote:
Thu Jan 04, 2024 12:17 am
I think Heart and Will realize the power of the Parity scan, and are desperate to make us waste time.

Killing Bozo because the rest of town seems apathetic and not solving, and they knew he would stick to the parity plan.

I think they are so desperate they are willing to even be obvious now.
Sweet, with my post, I mathematically solved the game. At worst case scenario, its 4-1 with one clear

At best case scenario, which has a probability of over 50%, town automatically wins the game.
I doubt it actually works. But I guess I'll analyze your plan and see if it actually works.
YOU DIDNT EVEN READ IT AND YOU ACCUSE ME OF LYING!!

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Re: M1027: Community - Game Thread

#1707 Post by sweetandcool » Thu Jan 04, 2024 12:28 am

JustAGuyNamedWill wrote:
Thu Jan 04, 2024 12:23 am
sweetandcool wrote:
Thu Jan 04, 2024 12:23 am
JustAGuyNamedWill wrote:
Thu Jan 04, 2024 12:20 am


Sweet, with my post, I mathematically solved the game. At worst case scenario, its 4-1 with one clear

At best case scenario, which has a probability of over 50%, town automatically wins the game.
I doubt it actually works. But I guess I'll analyze your plan and see if it actually works.
YOU DIDNT EVEN READ IT AND YOU ACCUSE ME OF LYING!!
I read it, silly pants, I just have to think if it actually works.

Otherwise, it's just a ploy to stop us from doing the right thing.

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Re: M1027: Community - Game Thread

#1708 Post by sweetandcool » Thu Jan 04, 2024 12:36 am

I think I can be forgiven for assuming it is a bad plan, considering from my point of view you're advocating to waste time to verify BK3K and I with minimal chance of your scan being helpful otherwise.

My plan is already way better.

But alas, when I have a chance I will properly pick apart your proposal.

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Re: M1027: Community - Game Thread

#1709 Post by BK3K » Thu Jan 04, 2024 12:45 am

JustAGuyNamedWill wrote:
Thu Jan 04, 2024 12:15 am
I am 99% sure sweet is scum with BK. I personally think that sweet saw that his partner was going to be killed if anyone else was investigated and it came up with different alignment, so he made himself as sus as possible so he could save BK from immediate death.

Man I cannot wait to be so gosh darn right about this.
Scan me bitch (assuming your math is right)

##vote ghug

VT Vote BK

##end

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Re: M1027: Community - Game Thread

#1710 Post by JustAGuyNamedWill » Thu Jan 04, 2024 12:46 am

sweetandcool wrote:
Thu Jan 04, 2024 12:36 am
I think I can be forgiven for assuming it is a bad plan, considering from my point of view you're advocating to waste time to verify BK3K and I with minimal chance of your scan being helpful otherwise.

My plan is already way better.

But alas, when I have a chance I will properly pick apart your proposal.
If we scan you and the investigators target comes up as the same as you we clear 3 plus the investigator. We win by PoE. If they are a different alignment then you we either caught both mafia (you and BK) or kill one mafia(the investigator’s target).

At minimum we catch one mafia and have one clear. Any other scenario we win the game by default

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Re: M1027: Community - Game Thread

#1711 Post by BK3K » Thu Jan 04, 2024 12:47 am

BK3K wrote:
Thu Jan 04, 2024 12:45 am
JustAGuyNamedWill wrote:
Thu Jan 04, 2024 12:15 am
I am 99% sure sweet is scum with BK. I personally think that sweet saw that his partner was going to be killed if anyone else was investigated and it came up with different alignment, so he made himself as sus as possible so he could save BK from immediate death.

Man I cannot wait to be so gosh darn right about this.
Scan me bitch (assuming your math is right)

##vote ghug

VT Vote BK

##end
##unend just in case there's more to discuss. I also didn't rigorously disset Will's plan. But it sounded good on a surface read

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Re: M1027: Community - Game Thread

#1712 Post by JustAGuyNamedWill » Thu Jan 04, 2024 12:47 am

BK3K wrote:
Thu Jan 04, 2024 12:45 am
JustAGuyNamedWill wrote:
Thu Jan 04, 2024 12:15 am
I am 99% sure sweet is scum with BK. I personally think that sweet saw that his partner was going to be killed if anyone else was investigated and it came up with different alignment, so he made himself as sus as possible so he could save BK from immediate death.

Man I cannot wait to be so gosh darn right about this.
Scan me bitch (assuming your math is right)

##vote ghug

VT Vote BK

##end
My math is right. Glad I took statistics a few year back :)

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Re: M1027: Community - Game Thread

#1713 Post by JustAGuyNamedWill » Thu Jan 04, 2024 12:48 am

VT Vote BK3K

(BK3K) 2: BK3K, Just

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Re: M1027: Community - Game Thread

#1714 Post by JustAGuyNamedWill » Thu Jan 04, 2024 12:49 am

sweetandcool wrote:
Thu Jan 04, 2024 12:36 am
I think I can be forgiven for assuming it is a bad plan, considering from my point of view you're advocating to waste time to verify BK3K and I with minimal chance of your scan being helpful otherwise.

My plan is already way better.

But alas, when I have a chance I will properly pick apart your proposal.
Bro is advocating for not an automatic win.

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Re: M1027: Community - Game Thread

#1715 Post by BK3K » Thu Jan 04, 2024 12:49 am

JustAGuyNamedWill wrote:
Thu Jan 04, 2024 12:47 am
BK3K wrote:
Thu Jan 04, 2024 12:45 am
JustAGuyNamedWill wrote:
Thu Jan 04, 2024 12:15 am
I am 99% sure sweet is scum with BK. I personally think that sweet saw that his partner was going to be killed if anyone else was investigated and it came up with different alignment, so he made himself as sus as possible so he could save BK from immediate death.

Man I cannot wait to be so gosh darn right about this.
Scan me bitch (assuming your math is right)

##vote ghug

VT Vote BK

##end
My math is right. Glad I took statistics a few year back :)
If you're right, let's do it. Sweet and me are town. You're 99% sure, I'm 100%

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Re: M1027: Community - Game Thread

#1716 Post by JustAGuyNamedWill » Thu Jan 04, 2024 12:51 am

BK3K wrote:
Thu Jan 04, 2024 12:49 am
JustAGuyNamedWill wrote:
Thu Jan 04, 2024 12:47 am
BK3K wrote:
Thu Jan 04, 2024 12:45 am


Scan me bitch (assuming your math is right)

##vote ghug

VT Vote BK

##end
My math is right. Glad I took statistics a few year back :)
If you're right, let's do it. Sweet and me are town. You're 99% sure, I'm 100%
Math is definite when it comes to statistics. You have an incentive to lie (if you are mafia), meaning your statement has a 65% of being correct. My math is fully an unequivocally correct, (check it), which gives it a 100% chance of being right.

100%> 65%

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Re: M1027: Community - Game Thread

#1717 Post by BK3K » Thu Jan 04, 2024 12:54 am

JustAGuyNamedWill wrote:
Thu Jan 04, 2024 12:16 am
REVISED EDITION bc I cannot spell

INVESTIGATE SWEET/ BK3K PLAN
——————————————————
(I will be using (A) as an example of the investigator’s target and sweet as the community target for simplicity’s sake)

In any case: ghug will be killed and someone else will as well. This leaves it 5-2 at the beginning of D5

OPTION 1: (A) was found be the investigator to be a DIFFERENT ALIGNMENT from sweet
In this scenario it is smartest to kill (A). If (A) is found to be mafia, we have two confirmed clears. This means we would have 4-1 going into D6 with one confirmed clear (if mafia is smart enough to kill one of the clears)

If (A), after being killed, is found to be town, we win the game, as that would mean BK and sweet are the two remaining mafia

OPTION 2: (A) was found by the investigator to be the SAME ALIGNMENT as sweet

In this scenario we have three confirmed clears [BK,
sweet, and (A)], and one investigator who (at that point if they were not NKed), should reveal themselves. We
would then have 4 clears in a 5-2 scenario. We win the game by process of elimination.
There is a tiny flaw here. If going into the next night with option 1, we might be at 4-1 with no confirmed clear. You assume that sweet and I survive the NK in the way to 5-2. Which isn't the case. But I guess one of dying clears the other.

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Re: M1027: Community - Game Thread

#1718 Post by BK3K » Thu Jan 04, 2024 12:55 am

BK3K wrote:
Thu Jan 04, 2024 12:54 am
JustAGuyNamedWill wrote:
Thu Jan 04, 2024 12:16 am
REVISED EDITION bc I cannot spell

INVESTIGATE SWEET/ BK3K PLAN
——————————————————
(I will be using (A) as an example of the investigator’s target and sweet as the community target for simplicity’s sake)

In any case: ghug will be killed and someone else will as well. This leaves it 5-2 at the beginning of D5

OPTION 1: (A) was found be the investigator to be a DIFFERENT ALIGNMENT from sweet
In this scenario it is smartest to kill (A). If (A) is found to be mafia, we have two confirmed clears. This means we would have 4-1 going into D6 with one confirmed clear (if mafia is smart enough to kill one of the clears)

If (A), after being killed, is found to be town, we win the game, as that would mean BK and sweet are the two remaining mafia

OPTION 2: (A) was found by the investigator to be the SAME ALIGNMENT as sweet

In this scenario we have three confirmed clears [BK,
sweet, and (A)], and one investigator who (at that point if they were not NKed), should reveal themselves. We
would then have 4 clears in a 5-2 scenario. We win the game by process of elimination.
There is a tiny flaw here. If going into the next night with option 1, we might be at 4-1 with no confirmed clear. You assume that sweet and I survive the NK in the way to 5-2. Which isn't the case. But I guess one of dying clears the other.
In which case, we will still be in the same shape? Probably.

Yeah, scan me

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Re: M1027: Community - Game Thread

#1719 Post by JustAGuyNamedWill » Thu Jan 04, 2024 12:56 am

@sweetie
@Bishkek
@Chaqa
@JamJam
@worc
@rDr
Not ghug cuz hes gonna die anyway
@hearty


I want you all to see my math because I really believe I have something here

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Re: M1027: Community - Game Thread

#1720 Post by BK3K » Thu Jan 04, 2024 12:58 am

JustAGuyNamedWill wrote:
Thu Jan 04, 2024 12:56 am
@sweetie
@Bishkek
@Chaqa
@JamJam
@worc
@rDr
Not ghug cuz hes gonna die anyway
@hearty


I want you all to see my math because I really believe I have something here
You calling me Bishkek is scummy since only ghug did and y'all might have been in the scum chat. But I think your math is good. I do want more than two people to confirm tho, so it's not just scum

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