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Re: M1027: Community - Game Thread

#881 Post by bozotheclown » Sat Dec 30, 2023 12:59 am

ghug wrote:
Sat Dec 30, 2023 12:53 am
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Sat Dec 30, 2023 12:26 am
I already thought Will was town. But it's incredible how he plays.

@Will I guess just vote me as Mafia or bow down to me as your new god.
What
I think sweetandcool is either mafia or playing as the persona of scum RHK.

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Re: M1027: Community - Game Thread

#882 Post by bozotheclown » Sat Dec 30, 2023 1:04 am

sweetandcool wrote:
Sat Dec 30, 2023 12:57 am
bozotheclown wrote:
Sat Dec 30, 2023 12:55 am
JustAGuyNamedWill wrote:
Fri Dec 29, 2023 11:46 pm


Only a mafia would have known D1 that damo was bluffing.

##VOTE SWEET
Somehow this exchange makes me think it was scripted in the mafia chat as a planned bus of sweetandcool.
It really does look that way. How unfortunate if you believe that though.

We do not want two MK in a row, this is just Will being Will.
It looks like Monarch is bussing you also.

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Re: M1027: Community - Game Thread

#883 Post by sweetandcool » Sat Dec 30, 2023 1:05 am

bozotheclown wrote:
Sat Dec 30, 2023 12:59 am
ghug wrote:
Sat Dec 30, 2023 12:53 am
sweetandcool wrote:
Sat Dec 30, 2023 12:26 am
I already thought Will was town. But it's incredible how he plays.

@Will I guess just vote me as Mafia or bow down to me as your new god.
What
I think sweetandcool is either mafia or playing as the persona of scum RHK.
You're at least correct that I'm putting on a persona.

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Re: M1027: Community - Game Thread

#884 Post by bozotheclown » Sat Dec 30, 2023 1:07 am

sweetandcool wrote:
Sat Dec 30, 2023 1:05 am
bozotheclown wrote:
Sat Dec 30, 2023 12:59 am
ghug wrote:
Sat Dec 30, 2023 12:53 am


What
I think sweetandcool is either mafia or playing as the persona of scum RHK.
You're at least correct that I'm putting on a persona.
That much was fairly obvious.

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Re: M1027: Community - Game Thread

#885 Post by TheMadMonarch » Sat Dec 30, 2023 1:08 am

Jamiet99uk wrote:
Sat Dec 30, 2023 12:54 am
TheMadMonarch wrote:
Sat Dec 30, 2023 12:42 am
Sweet and Jamie had an altercation last night that I, in a very surprising turn of events, sided with Jamie on.

Then sweet has been weird again this morning.
That was D1 not N1.
no?

I was talking about this post:
Jamiet99uk wrote:
Fri Dec 29, 2023 5:52 pm
sweetandcool wrote:
Fri Dec 29, 2023 5:43 pm
bozotheclown wrote:
Fri Dec 29, 2023 5:35 pm



Just has only played 2 games previously, and you were mafia in both, so I don't think you have had the opportunity to constantly scum reading him. Last game when I pointed out something like this you said you read players even when you are mafia, but it turned out you were mafia, so it looks like that was a fabricated explanation.

How many games have you played with Kakarroto?
Probably 4, idk.

That explanation was true. I don't care what you think, I am perfectly capable of scum reading players as any alignment.

Like last game I scumread Will and consequently voted him. If I didn't scumread him, I wouldn't have voted him. It's that simple.
Last game, you were scum. You KNEW who was on your scumteam. You knew whether or not Will was your team mate, the GM literally told you when the game began. So it was not a legitimate read.

This is basic shit.

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Re: M1027: Community - Game Thread

#886 Post by bozotheclown » Sat Dec 30, 2023 1:08 am

TheMadMonarch wrote:
Sat Dec 30, 2023 12:42 am
Sweet and Jamie had an altercation last night that I, in a very surprising turn of events, sided with Jamie on.

Then sweet has been weird again this morning.
What altercation are you referring to?

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Re: M1027: Community - Game Thread

#887 Post by TheMadMonarch » Sat Dec 30, 2023 1:09 am

bozotheclown wrote:
Sat Dec 30, 2023 1:08 am
TheMadMonarch wrote:
Sat Dec 30, 2023 12:42 am
Sweet and Jamie had an altercation last night that I, in a very surprising turn of events, sided with Jamie on.

Then sweet has been weird again this morning.
What altercation are you referring to?
Just posted it

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Re: M1027: Community - Game Thread

#888 Post by bozotheclown » Sat Dec 30, 2023 1:09 am

bozotheclown wrote:
Sat Dec 30, 2023 1:08 am
TheMadMonarch wrote:
Sat Dec 30, 2023 12:42 am
Sweet and Jamie had an altercation last night that I, in a very surprising turn of events, sided with Jamie on.

Then sweet has been weird again this morning.
What altercation are you referring to?
You managed to answer my question 4 seconds before I asked it.

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Re: M1027: Community - Game Thread

#889 Post by bozotheclown » Sat Dec 30, 2023 1:12 am

TheMadMonarch wrote:
Sat Dec 30, 2023 1:09 am
bozotheclown wrote:
Sat Dec 30, 2023 1:08 am
TheMadMonarch wrote:
Sat Dec 30, 2023 12:42 am
Sweet and Jamie had an altercation last night that I, in a very surprising turn of events, sided with Jamie on.

Then sweet has been weird again this morning.
What altercation are you referring to?
Just posted it
OK, so you agree that sweetandcool saying he always scum reads Just looks suspicious?

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Re: M1027: Community - Game Thread

#890 Post by bozotheclown » Sat Dec 30, 2023 1:26 am

sweetandcool wrote:
Sat Dec 30, 2023 12:57 am
bozotheclown wrote:
Sat Dec 30, 2023 12:55 am
JustAGuyNamedWill wrote:
Fri Dec 29, 2023 11:46 pm


Only a mafia would have known D1 that damo was bluffing.

##VOTE SWEET
Somehow this exchange makes me think it was scripted in the mafia chat as a planned bus of sweetandcool.
It really does look that way. How unfortunate if you believe that though.

We do not want two MK in a row, this is just Will being Will.
Either way, Just's point is valid.

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Re: M1027: Community - Game Thread

#891 Post by TheMadMonarch » Sat Dec 30, 2023 1:32 am

bozotheclown wrote:
Sat Dec 30, 2023 1:12 am
TheMadMonarch wrote:
Sat Dec 30, 2023 1:09 am
bozotheclown wrote:
Sat Dec 30, 2023 1:08 am


What altercation are you referring to?
Just posted it
OK, so you agree that sweetandcool saying he always scum reads Just looks suspicious?
Yes. His defences made no sense. Jamie made a good point about fabricated responses.

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Re: M1027: Community - Game Thread

#892 Post by bozotheclown » Sat Dec 30, 2023 1:37 am

ghug wrote:
Fri Dec 29, 2023 10:47 pm
Town:
heart, Bishkek

Townish:
Chaqa, worcej, bozo, Jimmit, Will

Preferred votes:
Macca, sweet, Brian, darg
Why did you put dargorygel on this list when you did not know what information the scan would reveal? Why did you not mention damo?

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Re: M1027: Community - Game Thread

#893 Post by ghug » Sat Dec 30, 2023 2:00 am

bozotheclown wrote:
Sat Dec 30, 2023 1:37 am
ghug wrote:
Fri Dec 29, 2023 10:47 pm
Town:
heart, Bishkek

Townish:
Chaqa, worcej, bozo, Jimmit, Will

Preferred votes:
Macca, sweet, Brian, darg
Why did you put dargorygel on this list when you did not know what information the scan would reveal? Why did you not mention damo?
Everyone not listed was in the PoE but not someone I was especially interested in killing.

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#894 Post by ghug » Sat Dec 30, 2023 2:02 am

ghug wrote:
Sat Dec 30, 2023 2:00 am
bozotheclown wrote:
Sat Dec 30, 2023 1:37 am
ghug wrote:
Fri Dec 29, 2023 10:47 pm
Town:
heart, Bishkek

Townish:
Chaqa, worcej, bozo, Jimmit, Will

Preferred votes:
Macca, sweet, Brian, darg
Why did you put dargorygel on this list when you did not know what information the scan would reveal? Why did you not mention damo?
Everyone not listed was in the PoE but not someone I was especially interested in killing.
I suspect I would have reconsidered and advocated against killing darg in spite of my personal read after the reveal even if he weren't confirmed town, but I was focused on reads and not mechanics.

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Re: M1027: Community - Game Thread

#895 Post by sweetandcool » Sat Dec 30, 2023 2:59 am

bozotheclown wrote:
Sat Dec 30, 2023 1:26 am
sweetandcool wrote:
Sat Dec 30, 2023 12:57 am
bozotheclown wrote:
Sat Dec 30, 2023 12:55 am


Somehow this exchange makes me think it was scripted in the mafia chat as a planned bus of sweetandcool.
It really does look that way. How unfortunate if you believe that though.

We do not want two MK in a row, this is just Will being Will.
Either way, Just's point is valid.
I feel like I'm living in the twilight zone, this makes absolutely no sense.

I'll spell it out for you, but I really am getting tired of explaining obvious things.

1. damo strongly suggests we don't DK him, that it is a big mistake.

Practically anyone is going to take that as him sitting the investigator role.
If he really is investigator this is incredibly bad play, particularly because he was far from guaranteed to be the DK (but yes, under some pressure).

Consequently we must conclude one of three things (for Mafia only two).

A. Damo pulled a worcej and PR claimed under some pressure.
B. Damo is bluffing in an attempt to eat a NK.
C. Damo is Mafia trying to forestall his demise.

I would expect Mafia to conclude B because A is unlikely and it is so damo-like. It is incredibly interesting that Mafia was naive enough to conclude A (or at least treat it as enough of a possibility that it would be worth a NK).

It is more tricky for town because we were stuck trying to decide between B or C.

If damo had come under pressure D2 (if he is investigator then why is he not the NK?), I would have tried to ensure his survival another day. This would have ensured that if he was town that Mafia would feel pressure to NK him N2 or in the case he was Mafia we would have felt comfortable voting him D3.

So yeah, damo was obviously not the investigator.

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Re: M1027: Community - Game Thread

#896 Post by sweetandcool » Sat Dec 30, 2023 3:01 am

sweetandcool wrote:
Sat Dec 30, 2023 2:59 am
bozotheclown wrote:
Sat Dec 30, 2023 1:26 am
sweetandcool wrote:
Sat Dec 30, 2023 12:57 am


It really does look that way. How unfortunate if you believe that though.

We do not want two MK in a row, this is just Will being Will.
Either way, Just's point is valid.
I feel like I'm living in the twilight zone, this makes absolutely no sense.

I'll spell it out for you, but I really am getting tired of explaining obvious things.

1. damo strongly suggests we don't DK him, that it is a big mistake.

Practically anyone is going to take that as him softing the investigator role.
If he really is investigator this is incredibly bad play, particularly because he was far from guaranteed to be the DK (but yes, under some pressure).

Consequently we must conclude one of three things (for Mafia only two).

A. Damo pulled a worcej and PR claimed under some pressure.
B. Damo is bluffing in an attempt to eat a NK.
C. Damo is Mafia trying to forestall his demise.

I would expect Mafia to conclude B because A is unlikely and it is so damo-like. It is incredibly interesting that Mafia was naive enough to conclude A (or at least treat it as enough of a possibility that it would be worth a NK).

It is more tricky for town because we were stuck trying to decide between B or C.

If damo had come under pressure D2 (if he is investigator then why is he not the NK?), I would have tried to ensure his survival another day. This would have ensured that if he was town that Mafia would feel pressure to NK him N2 or in the case he was Mafia we would have felt comfortable voting him D3.

So yeah, damo was obviously not the investigator.
Softing not sitting.

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Re: M1027: Community - Game Thread

#897 Post by sweetandcool » Sat Dec 30, 2023 3:06 am

TheMadMonarch wrote:
Sat Dec 30, 2023 12:42 am
Sweet and Jamie had an altercation last night that I, in a very surprising turn of events, sided with Jamie on.

Then sweet has been weird again this morning.
I really wish bunny was in this game, he would understand.

Have you read his notes in the godthread for other Mafia games? He frequently reads people's alignment, ignoring the fact as Mafia or spectator he would know it.

I am baffled so many people on this website think it is impossible to make alignment reads as Mafia.

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Re: M1027: Community - Game Thread

#898 Post by sweetandcool » Sat Dec 30, 2023 3:40 am

Ya'll are playing checkers while I am playing chess.

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#899 Post by ghug » Sat Dec 30, 2023 3:40 am

sweetandcool wrote:
Sat Dec 30, 2023 3:06 am
TheMadMonarch wrote:
Sat Dec 30, 2023 12:42 am
Sweet and Jamie had an altercation last night that I, in a very surprising turn of events, sided with Jamie on.

Then sweet has been weird again this morning.
I really wish bunny was in this game, he would understand.

Have you read his notes in the godthread for other Mafia games? He frequently reads people's alignment, ignoring the fact as Mafia or spectator he would know it.

I am baffled so many people on this website think it is impossible to make alignment reads as Mafia.
It's a weird way to describe it, but I get what you're talking about.

Is your persona supposed to be Bunny? Please don't be Bunny.

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Re: M1027: Community - Game Thread

#900 Post by sweetandcool » Sat Dec 30, 2023 3:41 am

I'm also bored, someone throw a tomato at me or at least parse what I am saying and reply in a levelheaded way.

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