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Re: M1027: Community - Game Thread

#781 Post by damo666 » Fri Dec 29, 2023 6:27 pm

Jamiet99uk wrote:
Fri Dec 29, 2023 6:23 pm
damo666 wrote:
Fri Dec 29, 2023 6:19 pm
bozotheclown wrote:
Fri Dec 29, 2023 5:54 pm


a-i: X mafia
a-ii: X mafia
a-iii: X mafia
b-i: X town
b-ii: X town
b=iii: X town
This is, of course the correct answer.

X will be the opposite to that reported regardless of darg's alignment or read of X. We will gain no insight into darg's alignment.
Ah, Bozo, the mechanical marvel, makes town proud once again.
And also means most of day one's discussion on who to vote was a waste of time because it make's no difference.

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Re: M1027: Community - Game Thread

#782 Post by sweetandcool » Fri Dec 29, 2023 6:30 pm

bozotheclown wrote:
Fri Dec 29, 2023 6:27 pm
Hamilton Brian wrote:
Thu Dec 28, 2023 10:57 pm
Oy vey...

I am not going to move my vote to Darg or Kak.
HB had said how much he disliked the Kakarroto and dargorygel wagons, so stating at 3 minutes that he would not vote for them to save himself seems like it could be a mafia ploy.
Hey! That was the post I was referring to. Obviously could be a Mafia ploy, but I'm not thinking that today.

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Re: M1027: Community - Game Thread

#783 Post by bozotheclown » Fri Dec 29, 2023 6:33 pm

damo666 wrote:
Fri Dec 29, 2023 6:19 pm
bozotheclown wrote:
Fri Dec 29, 2023 5:54 pm
damo666 wrote:
Fri Dec 29, 2023 5:43 pm
Survey:

What please would be your immediate reaction to the following reveals

a) X has been found by the community to be VANILLA TOWN

b) X has been found by the community to be MAFIA GOON

You may assume X is not you, darg or the NK.

Please give three answers for each of a and b;

i) if you townlean X
ii) if you scumlean X
iii) X is null to you
a-i: X mafia
a-ii: X mafia
a-iii: X mafia
b-i: X town
b-ii: X town
b=iii: X town
This is, of course the correct answer.

X will be the opposite to that reported regardless of darg's alignment or read of X. We will gain no insight into darg's alignment.
I don't think that is an accurate summary. If X turns out to be town in the a case or turns out to be mafia in the b case, dargorygel would be confirmed as mafia.

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Re: M1027: Community - Game Thread

#784 Post by rdrivera2005 » Fri Dec 29, 2023 6:37 pm

Jamiet99uk wrote:
Fri Dec 29, 2023 3:19 pm
Oh good, Rdrivera is here.

@Rdr:

What do you think about EoD1?

What is your read on Dargorygel and Hamilton Brian now?
I am around just not much.

I wasn't sure about Kak, I tend to townread him because I like him and the way he posts but this costed me a game not long ago. I weren't at home at EOD so I just took a look at the bot and thought either Darg or Kak isn't a bad choice.

I still think Darg could be scum but we will have more info on him tomorrow.

About Ham is playing a lot less volume then I remember which could be a scum play, but I don't have a specific scummy thing to point. He is on my pool of suspects mostly because I see more reasons to townread other people.

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Re: M1027: Community - Game Thread

#785 Post by damo666 » Fri Dec 29, 2023 6:38 pm

bozotheclown wrote:
Fri Dec 29, 2023 6:33 pm
damo666 wrote:
Fri Dec 29, 2023 6:19 pm
bozotheclown wrote:
Fri Dec 29, 2023 5:54 pm


a-i: X mafia
a-ii: X mafia
a-iii: X mafia
b-i: X town
b-ii: X town
b=iii: X town
This is, of course the correct answer.

X will be the opposite to that reported regardless of darg's alignment or read of X. We will gain no insight into darg's alignment.
I don't think that is an accurate summary. If X turns out to be town in the a case or turns out to be mafia in the b case, dargorygel would be confirmed as mafia.
Yes, I was talking nonsense

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Re: M1027: Community - Game Thread

#786 Post by rdrivera2005 » Fri Dec 29, 2023 6:38 pm

Chaqa wrote:
Fri Dec 29, 2023 3:29 pm
ghug wrote:
Fri Dec 29, 2023 12:20 am
You guys killed Kak?
Oh maybe ghug is just scum lol
Yep, he is starting to remember Ghug from last game where when I realized he was scum they ust killed me.

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Re: M1027: Community - Game Thread

#787 Post by bozotheclown » Fri Dec 29, 2023 6:40 pm

sweetandcool wrote:
Fri Dec 29, 2023 6:30 pm
bozotheclown wrote:
Fri Dec 29, 2023 6:27 pm
Hamilton Brian wrote:
Thu Dec 28, 2023 10:57 pm
Oy vey...

I am not going to move my vote to Darg or Kak.
HB had said how much he disliked the Kakarroto and dargorygel wagons, so stating at 3 minutes that he would not vote for them to save himself seems like it could be a mafia ploy.
Hey! That was the post I was referring to. Obviously could be a Mafia ploy, but I'm not thinking that today.
sweetandcool wrote:
Thu Dec 28, 2023 10:57 pm
That's right, I forget why, but I concluded Ham is clean.

I don't like these wagons though. Darg is my weakest read. So I stay put.
Hamilton Brian wrote:
Thu Dec 28, 2023 10:57 pm
Oy vey...

I am not going to move my vote to Darg or Kak.
sweetandcool wrote:
Thu Dec 28, 2023 10:58 pm
They playing good or they town. Not Kak or ham please.
You had already stated your town read of HB before that post, though.

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Re: M1027: Community - Game Thread

#788 Post by damo666 » Fri Dec 29, 2023 6:44 pm

My response

a
i) I would assume X town darg scum
ii) unsure other than X and darg oppo alignments
iii) I would assume X scum darg town

b
i) I would assume both X and darg town
ii) unsure other than X and darg same alignment
iii) I would assume both X and darg are scum

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Re: M1027: Community - Game Thread

#789 Post by ghug » Fri Dec 29, 2023 6:46 pm

damo666 wrote:
Fri Dec 29, 2023 6:19 pm
bozotheclown wrote:
Fri Dec 29, 2023 5:54 pm
damo666 wrote:
Fri Dec 29, 2023 5:43 pm
Survey:

What please would be your immediate reaction to the following reveals

a) X has been found by the community to be VANILLA TOWN

b) X has been found by the community to be MAFIA GOON

You may assume X is not you, darg or the NK.

Please give three answers for each of a and b;

i) if you townlean X
ii) if you scumlean X
iii) X is null to you
a-i: X mafia
a-ii: X mafia
a-iii: X mafia
b-i: X town
b-ii: X town
b=iii: X town
This is, of course the correct answer.

X will be the opposite to that reported regardless of darg's alignment or read of X. We will gain no insight into darg's alignment.
We can't do "regardless". Your a options all mean that one of X and darg is scum, there's no reason to assume that that's certainly X.

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Re: M1027: Community - Game Thread

#790 Post by sweetandcool » Fri Dec 29, 2023 6:48 pm

bozotheclown wrote:
Fri Dec 29, 2023 6:40 pm
sweetandcool wrote:
Fri Dec 29, 2023 6:30 pm
bozotheclown wrote:
Fri Dec 29, 2023 6:27 pm


HB had said how much he disliked the Kakarroto and dargorygel wagons, so stating at 3 minutes that he would not vote for them to save himself seems like it could be a mafia ploy.
Hey! That was the post I was referring to. Obviously could be a Mafia ploy, but I'm not thinking that today.
sweetandcool wrote:
Thu Dec 28, 2023 10:57 pm
That's right, I forget why, but I concluded Ham is clean.

I don't like these wagons though. Darg is my weakest read. So I stay put.
Hamilton Brian wrote:
Thu Dec 28, 2023 10:57 pm
Oy vey...

I am not going to move my vote to Darg or Kak.
sweetandcool wrote:
Thu Dec 28, 2023 10:58 pm
They playing good or they town. Not Kak or ham please.
You had already stated your town read of HB before that post, though.
Yes, I'm allowed to accumulate reasons. I townread Ham because of his reaction to my push.

I stated my townread of Ham because of that.

Then later I more strongly read him because of this post that came EoD.

My reference to him (and Kak) either playing well or just Town was influenced by his post of not defending himself by switching to Kak or Darg.

This is not complicated. Are you saying it is not allowed to have reads develop after making a declaration publicly of your reads? Or are you saying I must update everybody everytime my read changes at all?

You are making no sense Bozo.

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Re: M1027: Community - Game Thread

#791 Post by Jamiet99uk » Fri Dec 29, 2023 7:07 pm

damo666 wrote:
Fri Dec 29, 2023 6:27 pm
Jamiet99uk wrote:
Fri Dec 29, 2023 6:23 pm
damo666 wrote:
Fri Dec 29, 2023 6:19 pm


This is, of course the correct answer.

X will be the opposite to that reported regardless of darg's alignment or read of X. We will gain no insight into darg's alignment.
Ah, Bozo, the mechanical marvel, makes town proud once again.
And also means most of day one's discussion on who to vote was a waste of time because it make's no difference.
I don't agree. While the selection of VT guess doesn't matter all that much, there needs to be some level of collective action.
Potato, potato; potato.

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Re: M1027: Community - Game Thread

#792 Post by Jamiet99uk » Fri Dec 29, 2023 7:08 pm

rdrivera2005 wrote:
Fri Dec 29, 2023 6:37 pm
Jamiet99uk wrote:
Fri Dec 29, 2023 3:19 pm
Oh good, Rdrivera is here.

@Rdr:

What do you think about EoD1?

What is your read on Dargorygel and Hamilton Brian now?
I am around just not much.

I wasn't sure about Kak, I tend to townread him because I like him and the way he posts but this costed me a game not long ago. I weren't at home at EOD so I just took a look at the bot and thought either Darg or Kak isn't a bad choice.

I still think Darg could be scum but we will have more info on him tomorrow.

About Ham is playing a lot less volume then I remember which could be a scum play, but I don't have a specific scummy thing to point. He is on my pool of suspects mostly because I see more reasons to townread other people.
What info will we have about Dargorygel tomorrow?
Potato, potato; potato.

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Re: M1027: Community - Game Thread

#793 Post by damo666 » Fri Dec 29, 2023 8:25 pm

ghug wrote:
Fri Dec 29, 2023 6:46 pm
damo666 wrote:
Fri Dec 29, 2023 6:19 pm
bozotheclown wrote:
Fri Dec 29, 2023 5:54 pm


a-i: X mafia
a-ii: X mafia
a-iii: X mafia
b-i: X town
b-ii: X town
b=iii: X town
This is, of course the correct answer.

X will be the opposite to that reported regardless of darg's alignment or read of X. We will gain no insight into darg's alignment.
We can't do "regardless". Your a options all mean that one of X and darg is scum, there's no reason to assume that that's certainly X.
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Re: M1027: Community - Game Thread

#794 Post by damo666 » Fri Dec 29, 2023 8:25 pm

Jamiet99uk wrote:
Fri Dec 29, 2023 7:07 pm
damo666 wrote:
Fri Dec 29, 2023 6:27 pm
Jamiet99uk wrote:
Fri Dec 29, 2023 6:23 pm


Ah, Bozo, the mechanical marvel, makes town proud once again.
And also means most of day one's discussion on who to vote was a waste of time because it make's no difference.
I don't agree. While the selection of VT guess doesn't matter all that much, there needs to be some level of collective action.
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Re: M1027: Community - Game Thread

#795 Post by Hamilton Brian » Fri Dec 29, 2023 8:27 pm

bozotheclown wrote:
Fri Dec 29, 2023 6:19 pm
TheMadMonarch wrote:
Thu Dec 28, 2023 12:42 pm
top scum reads rn

1. Kak
2. Darg
3. Jamie

Kak and darg for opposing co-ordination. Jamie is just kinda going crazy
Hamilton Brian wrote:
Thu Dec 28, 2023 4:42 pm
Of the 4 competitive wagons so far, I don't like 3 of them. I would say I see jamie, kak, and darg as primarily town for me.
This could be a strange coincidence, but I think it increases the chances that Monarch and HB are mafia teammates.
Can you please explain for me, all of us really, how you come to that conclusion? Seriously. Explain it.

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Re: M1027: Community - Game Thread

#796 Post by JustAGuyNamedWill » Fri Dec 29, 2023 8:37 pm

bozotheclown wrote:
Fri Dec 29, 2023 5:54 pm
damo666 wrote:
Fri Dec 29, 2023 5:43 pm
Survey:

What please would be your immediate reaction to the following reveals

a) X has been found by the community to be VANILLA TOWN

b) X has been found by the community to be MAFIA GOON

You may assume X is not you, darg or the NK.

Please give three answers for each of a and b;

i) if you townlean X
ii) if you scumlean X
iii) X is null to you
a-i: X mafia
a-ii: X mafia
a-iii: X mafia
b-i: X town
b-ii: X town
b=iii: X town
Same.

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Re: M1027: Community - Game Thread

#797 Post by bozotheclown » Fri Dec 29, 2023 8:39 pm

sweetandcool wrote:
Fri Dec 29, 2023 6:48 pm
bozotheclown wrote:
Fri Dec 29, 2023 6:40 pm
sweetandcool wrote:
Fri Dec 29, 2023 6:30 pm


Hey! That was the post I was referring to. Obviously could be a Mafia ploy, but I'm not thinking that today.
sweetandcool wrote:
Thu Dec 28, 2023 10:57 pm
That's right, I forget why, but I concluded Ham is clean.

I don't like these wagons though. Darg is my weakest read. So I stay put.
Hamilton Brian wrote:
Thu Dec 28, 2023 10:57 pm
Oy vey...

I am not going to move my vote to Darg or Kak.
sweetandcool wrote:
Thu Dec 28, 2023 10:58 pm
They playing good or they town. Not Kak or ham please.
You had already stated your town read of HB before that post, though.
Yes, I'm allowed to accumulate reasons. I townread Ham because of his reaction to my push.

I stated my townread of Ham because of that.

Then later I more strongly read him because of this post that came EoD.

My reference to him (and Kak) either playing well or just Town was influenced by his post of not defending himself by switching to Kak or Darg.

This is not complicated. Are you saying it is not allowed to have reads develop after making a declaration publicly of your reads? Or are you saying I must update everybody everytime my read changes at all?

You are making no sense Bozo.
HB was criticizing the Kakarroto and dargorygel wagons before he became a wagon himself, as mafia he would not have a way to justify voting for Kakarroto or dargorygel, so his best option would have been to do what he did, state he would not move his vote and hope that it made him look like town. You seemed to help direct the DK away from HB for what I think are questionable reasons, so I find you both suspicious.

I also find it suspicious that you voted for HB for 19 minutes and he invalidly voted for you for 22 minutes.

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Re: M1027: Community - Game Thread

#798 Post by bozotheclown » Fri Dec 29, 2023 8:41 pm

Hamilton Brian wrote:
Fri Dec 29, 2023 8:27 pm
bozotheclown wrote:
Fri Dec 29, 2023 6:19 pm
TheMadMonarch wrote:
Thu Dec 28, 2023 12:42 pm
top scum reads rn

1. Kak
2. Darg
3. Jamie

Kak and darg for opposing co-ordination. Jamie is just kinda going crazy
Hamilton Brian wrote:
Thu Dec 28, 2023 4:42 pm
Of the 4 competitive wagons so far, I don't like 3 of them. I would say I see jamie, kak, and darg as primarily town for me.
This could be a strange coincidence, but I think it increases the chances that Monarch and HB are mafia teammates.
Can you please explain for me, all of us really, how you come to that conclusion? Seriously. Explain it.
Monarch scum reads them, so you try to pocket them while distancing from Monarch.

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Re: M1027: Community - Game Thread

#799 Post by sweetandcool » Fri Dec 29, 2023 8:49 pm

bozotheclown wrote:
Fri Dec 29, 2023 8:39 pm
sweetandcool wrote:
Fri Dec 29, 2023 6:48 pm
bozotheclown wrote:
Fri Dec 29, 2023 6:40 pm










You had already stated your town read of HB before that post, though.
Yes, I'm allowed to accumulate reasons. I townread Ham because of his reaction to my push.

I stated my townread of Ham because of that.

Then later I more strongly read him because of this post that came EoD.

My reference to him (and Kak) either playing well or just Town was influenced by his post of not defending himself by switching to Kak or Darg.

This is not complicated. Are you saying it is not allowed to have reads develop after making a declaration publicly of your reads? Or are you saying I must update everybody everytime my read changes at all?

You are making no sense Bozo.
HB was criticizing the Kakarroto and dargorygel wagons before he became a wagon himself, as mafia he would not have a way to justify voting for Kakarroto or dargorygel, so his best option would have been to do what he did, state he would not move his vote and hope that it made him look like town. You seemed to help direct the DK away from HB for what I think are questionable reasons, so I find you both suspicious.

I also find it suspicious that you voted for HB for 19 minutes and he invalidly voted for you for 22 minutes.
You're allowed to be wrong about me.

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Re: M1027: Community - Game Thread

#800 Post by bozotheclown » Fri Dec 29, 2023 8:50 pm

sweetandcool wrote:
Fri Dec 29, 2023 8:49 pm
bozotheclown wrote:
Fri Dec 29, 2023 8:39 pm
sweetandcool wrote:
Fri Dec 29, 2023 6:48 pm


Yes, I'm allowed to accumulate reasons. I townread Ham because of his reaction to my push.

I stated my townread of Ham because of that.

Then later I more strongly read him because of this post that came EoD.

My reference to him (and Kak) either playing well or just Town was influenced by his post of not defending himself by switching to Kak or Darg.

This is not complicated. Are you saying it is not allowed to have reads develop after making a declaration publicly of your reads? Or are you saying I must update everybody everytime my read changes at all?

You are making no sense Bozo.
HB was criticizing the Kakarroto and dargorygel wagons before he became a wagon himself, as mafia he would not have a way to justify voting for Kakarroto or dargorygel, so his best option would have been to do what he did, state he would not move his vote and hope that it made him look like town. You seemed to help direct the DK away from HB for what I think are questionable reasons, so I find you both suspicious.

I also find it suspicious that you voted for HB for 19 minutes and he invalidly voted for you for 22 minutes.
You're allowed to be wrong about me.
Do you still think HB is likely to be town?

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