M1027: Community - Game Thread

[sweetandcool]

I'm fine with Monarch's plan. Did not realize only VT get to vote.

Yeah, Jamiet's behavior screams scum-Jamiet. It's so nice to be able to read him.

[Chaqa]

Why don't we just always choose the person who had the second-highest vote total the previous day?

[worcej]

##VOTE Jamiet for telling us what to do.

##vote Jamie

[worcej]

Hello fellow townies and some bad guys.

This time I didn't miss the start of the game. And I am at the beach

##vote rdr

[JustAGuyNamedWill]

Also, I meant to only have a small nap before the game so I would be there at start, didn't know that I would sleep over 10 hours. Guess my body needed the sleep.

I'm also very surprised to see quite a lot of policy discussion. I'm also surprised that ghug (who previously said those are typical what mafia defaults to in the joke phase) sees two of them as very towny.

I thought about the system myself a bit, but wouldn't the information, who thinks who is mafia for the vote, be useful? Like this policy that everyone chooses a certain individuum takes intention out of players hands and makes it easy to hide.

Also:



does ghug here buss sweet again?


@MadMonarch: Do you like your role PM? Are you happy about it? :)

@Bozo: who would you want to investigate right now with your system?

@Chaqa: where did you hide the joke phase?!?

I am not sure what information you are referring to, but we don't need the investigator mechanism to know who the VTs think are mafia, we can take a survey for that. The investigation result becomes much more useful if it is connected to one other player.

As for who the VTs should select, I think the second highest voted player is fine.

you didn't think of mafia trying to screw the system? It would be quite the information what mafia thinks (or at least portrays to think) who they think are mafia.

It's kinda like a second vote, a double VCA, if you want, which can be very helpful in the later stages

This is what I think. A system too easily manipulated by the mafia.

[worcej]

##VOTE Chaqa

How did Monarch finagle a name change?

My thoughts as well…

[ghug]

@Ghug: What if there's a tie for second place?

Alphabetical? One who posted last in the day? First poster decides? I'm pretty content with it being arbitrary or with going with what someone else likes if there's a strong conviction.

[worcej]

I'm glad the GM has given me a mechanically-clear way to commit suicide as needed.

Lol, and here I thought me putting zero effort into reading the setup made me play like you this game…

You found a way to be even more you.

[worcej]

Huh, I'm already seeing some interesting stuff in thread.

I think we should kills sweet again on D1 so he can know all the facts in the GT

[Jamiet99uk]

I'm fine with Monarch's plan. Did not realize only VT get to vote.

Yeah, Jamiet's behavior screams scum-Jamiet. It's so nice to be able to read him.

Maybe you could address my questions?

And here is another one:

Name a previous game in which you have successfully scumread me?

[Jamiet99uk]

Why don't we just always choose the person who had the second-highest vote total the previous day?

Same question as I asked Ghug.

[Jamiet99uk]

@Ghug: What if there's a tie for second place?

Alphabetical? One who posted last in the day? First poster decides? I'm pretty content with it being arbitrary or with going with what someone else likes if there's a strong conviction.

It's your proposal, you tell us which.

[JustAGuyNamedWill]

I see your point, but there are two problems: how VTs agree on a player (a night vote might do, but it's a short time and people could miss sending the name) and we will only get info after investigator flips or disclose the info).

Would it necessarily hurt if the first person to post at night just throws out a name? Since this wouldnt be the name for the investigation itself, just the name for calibrating results?

I endorse this approach.

Again, I think it’s too easily manipulated by mafia. I endorse doing +1s to vote.

[JustAGuyNamedWill]

Hate to rain on Monarch's parade, but if we use their method then there is one small problem:

Town votes for 1-4 Mafia, 7-10 town.

The 4 Mafia could all vote Mafia, making the final vote 5-8 Mafia and 7-11 town.

Consequently, it is possible that Mafia could guarantee an accurate result, which we would mistakenly believe to be inaccurate.

So while Monarch's plan is likely to work, it has a vulnerability that can possibly be exploited. And only Mafia would know whether it could be.

We could do bozos proposal to counter this. But I think only Town has a vote.

[worcej]

I love the giant woman that the bot sees with my emojis.

I actually hate this immensely because it makes it so hard to read on mobile

[worcej]

Well, I still don't like all this conformity. The last few games the big thing was that town was too apathetic and just followed, the one game where things got more shaken up and town nearly won was the one with the items which provided more personal information.

I feel letting everyone choose who they see as most likely mafia candidate at night will bring much needed information.

I mean, sure I can see the advantages of bozo's and monarch's suggestions, but they also might just lull town into a trance and provide mafia a hiding spot.

This screams to me as town Kak FWIW

[ghug]

@Ghug: What if there's a tie for second place?

Alphabetical? One who posted last in the day? First poster decides? I'm pretty content with it being arbitrary or with going with what someone else likes if there's a strong conviction.

It's your proposal, you tell us which.

Why?

[Jamiet99uk]

Would it necessarily hurt if the first person to post at night just throws out a name? Since this wouldnt be the name for the investigation itself, just the name for calibrating results?

I endorse this approach.

Again, I think it’s too easily manipulated by mafia. I endorse doing +1s to vote.

On reflection I agree, and I have now chosen MadMonarch's proposal.

[sweetandcool]

I'm fine with Monarch's plan. Did not realize only VT get to vote.

Yeah, Jamiet's behavior screams scum-Jamiet. It's so nice to be able to read him.

Maybe you could address my questions?

And here is another one:

Name a previous game in which you have successfully scumread me?

When you and Bunny were Mafia in the pirate themed game. Totally smoked you guys.

I don't think you've been scum in any other game?

So yeah, 100% rate of successfully reading you.

[worcej]

Ugh, I am drained from reading the mechanics talk.