MAFIA 39 - GAME THREAD

[Durga]

We are lynching between ND, yavuz and rd this turn. Anyone else on anyone else needs to get off and be useful.

[brainbomb]

Yav isnt treading along doing nothing. Yav is trying his heart out to use his vote and pressure to stay resonsibly aggressive. Hes really frantic as town. When hes scum he just kinda lurks and doesnt throw weight around. Yav is among the most active-most aggressive players today and most days. Hes erratic and just doesnt know how to post as anything other than whatever emotion hes feeling. Thats sincere yav- and the yav we can usually read well. The only person who cant read obvious town yav is ppl like vash.

[worcej]

Actually worcej you're kind of annoying too. What have you even done but tunnel on me all game. You won't even give me your thoughts on what I posted earlier. You might as well die tbh.

I honestly haven't read it.

Now reading...

I loosely agree with you on ND, but not that he is hard-scum - I originally thought he was more town then Tom based on how he played. Since then, he has been kinda meh. I think he is as equally guilted into baiting you as he said you were doing of him.

Regardless, I still think you played N0 and D1 shitty. I still think your always defensive responses to people commenting on that is shitty. I think your scum targets are bouncing.

Fine, no crazy theories on y2k/BB? ##vote Durga - maybe it will finally stick.

[worcej]

I mean im satisfied in the sense that youre scum. And one of rivera or durga is absolutely mortified that yer going down in flames. On the off chance theyre scum together then good job to them white knighting is a thing. Ill keep that in mind.

No further interrogations for now medic with armor bonus.

Chill out. This may be pretty important in lylo when yer still alive. Your actions may come under a microscope. Right now yer looking pretty scummy. No reason to freak out like you are. Theres very little chaos in my questioning you. You didnt use your items in a very logical manner. And fwiw I think youre just simply smarter than the actions you claimed to have taken.

Flattery will get you no where - I am shit at mafia. Here is why:

I will play this terrible card. I hard-claimed the kit. I've never lied when I used the HC in the 3 games I've done it. Do you still believe I want to fuck this card up by lying about it?

[Durga]

Yav isnt treading along doing nothing. Yav is trying his heart out to use his vote and pressure to stay resonsibly aggressive. Hes really frantic as town. When hes scum he just kinda lurks and doesnt throw weight around. Yav is among the most active-most aggressive players today and most days. Hes erratic and just doesnt know how to post as anything other than whatever emotion hes feeling. Thats sincere yav- and the yav we can usually read well. The only person who cant read obvious town yav is ppl like vash.

And me, apparently. Because I want to town read him but he's said some weird shit like the give my item to brain/flash comment. He's really played this entire game as if his item is armour. That being said, I'd back to leaning towards rd-ND and am willing to defer to people who have played with yav on his meta.

[brainbomb]

I think rivera is mostly just encouraging people not to do much of anything. Hes seeing the game as simple and solved. Probably means hes just lazy town. He should be looking beyond yav for fake armor claims and ive delivered him a pretty glaring one hes just not seeing. And I dunno why hes not seeing it.


Everytime I wanna clear durga she tries to control the game in a way that contradicts something shes done before. She only gets annoyed when her name or someone shes switched her read to town on is being questioned.

As for ND hes pretty aggressive. Making many statements that are unrehearsed and not scripted. Hes consistent and mostly convinced of his own accuracy. Which is a hard mentality for scum in this gamestate to uphold. It means precise lynches that benefit scum. ND isnt doing that. Hes putting himself more into harms way and pushing people who arent really that easy to lynch. Hes also made himself look bad by unecessarily adding himself to the ghug lynch.

ND is probably town
Vecna is likely town also
RHK has many towny moments
Yav is true to form

That leaves worcej for me who made some questionable decisions with his item- but lynched squigga for supposedly not understanding optimal item usage. His doc save on tom and ensuing lynch is the scum tell.

I rest my case.

[worcej]

I think rivera is mostly just encouraging people not to do much of anything. Hes seeing the game as simple and solved. Probably means hes just lazy town. He should be looking beyond yav for fake armor claims and ive delivered him a pretty glaring one hes just not seeing. And I dunno why hes not seeing it.


Everytime I wanna clear durga she tries to control the game in a way that contradicts something shes done before. She only gets annoyed when her name or someone shes switched her read to town on is being questioned.

As for ND hes pretty aggressive. Making many statements that are unrehearsed and not scripted. Hes consistent and mostly convinced of his own accuracy. Which is a hard mentality for scum in this gamestate to uphold. It means precise lynches that benefit scum. ND isnt doing that. Hes putting himself more into harms way and pushing people who arent really that easy to lynch. Hes also made himself look bad by unecessarily adding himself to the ghug lynch.

ND is probably town
Vecna is likely town also
RHK has many towny moments
Yav is true to form

That leaves worcej for me who made some questionable decisions with his item- but lynched squigga for supposedly not understanding optimal item usage. His doc save on tom and ensuing lynch is the scum tell.

I rest my case.

If only I was the Judge again, I'd say 'Court is Adjourned'

[Durga]

Actually worcej you're kind of annoying too. What have you even done but tunnel on me all game. You won't even give me your thoughts on what I posted earlier. You might as well die tbh.

I honestly haven't read it.

Now reading...

I loosely agree with you on ND, but not that he is hard-scum - I originally thought he was more town then Tom based on how he played. Since then, he has been kinda meh. I think he is as equally guilted into baiting you as he said you were doing of him.

Regardless, I still think you played N0 and D1 shitty. I still think your always defensive responses to people commenting on that is shitty. I think your scum targets are bouncing.

Fine, no crazy theories on y2k/BB? ##vote Durga - maybe it will finally stick.

Why is it shitty? What about it is shitty - more importantly, what about it is scummy? And yeah, I'm a bitch, but I'm always a bitch and it isn't scum indicative of me.. In fact, I'd like to think I'm nicer as scum. My reads are moving yes, because things are happening, but as you can see I've finally narrowed it down pretty well. Unlike you, you've been tunnelling on me forever and have no idea what to do in this game. Ask me anything, I'll do my best to show you that I"m not scum. But if you're going to blindly vote me, not contribute to town, and refuse to change your perspective the way bb does, then just let me know now and you can go back to lurking and eventually get lynched in LYLO

[brainbomb]

This fake scum talking to scum convo was great. 4 stars guys.

https://youtu.be/-u9LVxZa_EM


Shame as soon asI stop- so too doth the fake scum on scum dinner theatre.

Top notch game durga youve improved alot. You definetely added some nuances and wrinkles. The roleblock the bussing. Shooting chaqa is always solid.

Guys its durga and worcej. Enjoy.

[brainbomb]

We fall down like dogs playin' dead
Well, our love's not worth playin' chicken with you
I'm not discardin' you like broken glass

There are no winners when the die is cast
There's only tears when it's the final task

So don't give up, it's just young lovers' romance
So don't give up, it's just young lovers' romance

This too shall pass
When we are where we're meant to be
Learn things I don't ask
I am, I am gonna get her to me
We fall down like dogs playin' dead
Well, our love's not worth playin' chicken with you
L
I'm not discardin' you like broken glass
There are no winners when the die is cast
There's only tears when it's the final task
So don't give up, it's just young lovers' romance
So don't give up, it's just young lovers' romance

[brainbomb]

Yea white knighting is real.
Learning how to be scum on webdip is a steep learming curve.
Learning to play scum is an art and it requires stupidity. You have to argue why all options are options. Scum dont look for reasons why not. They look for anyone but themself.

Thats worcej
Thats durga

The game is over.

[brainbomb]

Its never fun to lose but lose with a bit more grace next time.

Durga is scum with worcej

[brainbomb]

My deepest and humblest apologies to y2k who I do respect and I think you and I made fools of each other. I

[brainbomb]

Sorry to Vecna whom I deeply appreciate and I didnt realistically evaluate. Like you did nothing scummy. I was annoyed with your absence not your play.

Please read what happened tonight and lynch durga or worcej. I dont really care which dies first the games over

[brainbomb]

To Yav and RHK.
Yer both town.

Lets end the game and lynch worcej or durga. I literally dgaf which. Theyre outed. Reread and youll see why. Even if you dont see why just trust me for once in your life.

[brainbomb]

@ND

So there was a time where you and I talked regularly. We ran games togetherm and we were friends. I mailed you artwork after trump won. We had many heated debates. Youve said im a moron.

I buy your durga read. If we lynch durga can we lynch worcej after and simply win the game?

Also keep in mind I think yer right about durga. I think youre town. Tell me who you scumread after durga and why

[Jamiet99uk]

Vote Count 4.07

Durga (3) - y2kjbk, ND, Worcej
rdrivera2005 (2) - Vecna, DemonRHK
worcej (2) - yavuzovic, brainbomb
yavuzovic (1) - flash2015
ND (1) - rdrivera2005

Unvoted: Durga

You have 11 hours and 14 minutes left.

Durga must cast a valid vote.

[Jamiet99uk]

Currently DURGA is set to be lynched.

[Vecna]

I dont think anything warranted or justified goiing from doc saving tom to lynching him the next day. I just dont see why or what caused this turnaround. What made you buy tom as town?

I chose to NOT save you because I wanted to not double up on saving you. I picked Tom RANDOMLY because I thought scum would RANDOMLY go for him.

Wait, wasnt this the same night as when he claimed to have saved ND? Everything in this game feels to be blending together.

[Vecna]

Let me know if I misunderstand you.

If the sticky takes the armor from someone that visits them, but the person that visited sticky is attacked, then the person that visited the sticky lost their armor and then is attacked. Thus, they die, unless saved otherwise.

Ok let's assume Sticky is mafia and conducts the roleblock and the night kill.

Roleblock action comes first, if Sticky roleblocks armour, do they then have the armour?

And if yes, on the same night, can mafia kill the person who previously had the armour?

Sticky roleblocks and steals. Both of those actions come before the nightkill. The sticky would then have the armor, as they have already stolen it. The mafia can kill the person who previously had the armor on that same night.

Ehm what?

##Call GM - This is completely contrary to the role description. Sticky is stated to only work when it is visited by someone else.