MAfIA 84 - A VERY TENDER THANKSGIVING GAME THREAD

[damo666]

When will night end if not hammered?

I'll let brain answer this, according to his schedule.

Phase will shift tomorrow at the regular time.
Unless night is hammered early

Bot has almost 48hrs of night left

[heartthrob24909]

I'd like us to not completely lose this night to not talking. Yes, anything we say can inform night actions, but we're also nowhere close to consensus or a solve and at risk of losing all momentum with this long period of nothingness.

Of your 4 pairs I would go for heart/worcej

In what order?

[brainbomb]

DEADLINE MOVED 24H Earlier

[damo666]

I'd like us to not completely lose this night to not talking. Yes, anything we say can inform night actions, but we're also nowhere close to consensus or a solve and at risk of losing all momentum with this long period of nothingness.

Of your 4 pairs I would go for heart/worcej

In what order?

Need help with the night kill?

[worcej]

Mid-flight to SLC for my last business trip. Thank god for Delta free wifi…

My potential scum rankings are as follows:
Bunny>Damo>>rdr/ghug>>>>heart

I feel heart is the most towny atm - actually trying to question the game-state and evaluate us that haven’t had suspicion or votes on us. The N4 explanations he had for ghug’s questions are very similar to my own approaches I make and that resonates with me.

Going to post in spam as I don’t want to lose a massive wall due to wifi dropping…

[worcej]

I will just admit that I suck at reading rdr and ghug.

Rdr is very… all business? (Don’t have a better term to describe it…) and I never sense any emotion behind his posts. This makes him very good at scum to me and easier for him to fake town to me. At this moment, he is not doing much (really no one is…), but his D4 was towny to me and his logic for getting Chaqa was sound.

Ghug was always just an auto-lock scum read for me for a long time. Probably due to other personality conflict reasons. I think I am moving past that, but that still creeps in from time to time. This game, he has been on the town side imo because of the D1 nailing of sweet in a situation where scum did not need to bus. He also had plenty of time to move if he needed to, so the notion of “being stuck” doesn’t apply to me. What makes me keep being concerned though is how is he still alive now? I figured he was dead on N4…

[BunnyGo]

Mid-flight to SLC for my last business trip. Thank god for Delta free wifi…

My potential scum rankings are as follows:
Bunny>Damo>>rdr/ghug>>>>heart

I feel heart is the most towny atm - actually trying to question the game-state and evaluate us that haven’t had suspicion or votes on us. The N4 explanations he had for ghug’s questions are very similar to my own approaches I make and that resonates with me.

Going to post in spam as I don’t want to lose a massive wall due to wifi dropping…

Don’t you also think I’m the vig? This is scummy reads list

[BunnyGo]

I will just admit that I suck at reading rdr and ghug.

Rdr is very… all business? (Don’t have a better term to describe it…) and I never sense any emotion behind his posts. This makes him very good at scum to me and easier for him to fake town to me. At this moment, he is not doing much (really no one is…), but his D4 was towny to me and his logic for getting Chaqa was sound.

Ghug was always just an auto-lock scum read for me for a long time. Probably due to other personality conflict reasons. I think I am moving past that, but that still creeps in from time to time. This game, he has been on the town side imo because of the D1 nailing of sweet in a situation where scum did not need to bus. He also had plenty of time to move if he needed to, so the notion of “being stuck” doesn’t apply to me. What makes me keep being concerned though is how is he still alive now? I figured he was dead on N4…

Do you not sense emotion when he was dealing with Just?

[worcej]

Damo is my second strongest scum read for his recent activity as we have been slowly killing ourselves.

First post I hated:

Pretty bad result. Won't be hypocrite and say I am sorry, still think Chaqa played a lazy game that lead to this.

I think last scum are between Bunny, Damo and Ghug, but I just could be blind again to someone like Macca.

We are all blind to Macca. Be interesting if she is not the NK.

On re-read, I feel like this is calling the shot on N4 preemptively.
Macca was not a full clear (I suspected her) and he may have slipped here since he already knew she was dying.

The next one:

I don't think you are an easy miskill you aren’t in anyone's top scum list. It's far easiest for me to be miskilled, for example, because I am most suspect list of the remaining players.

I was generalizing my own opinions of myself. I am trying to figure out why I am still alive at this point.

I sense Oreo snapping

Besides the excellent reference to Rounders here, this felt super forced to me from him. For those not in the know: this is in reference to a poker player’s tell when he is bluffing, which I interpret as scumming me here. Since my opinion was honest, seeing him shade it softly was rather telling to me…

Lastly - the shade on heart seems incredibly forced. His pair mechanics and “math” behind the probabilities are just shit. Considering I town heart, I feel he is forcing the situation to be T/T pair, one of us possibly NK’ed, then he has an explanation for his vote at KiLo.

[worcej]

Mid-flight to SLC for my last business trip. Thank god for Delta free wifi…

My potential scum rankings are as follows:
Bunny>Damo>>rdr/ghug>>>>heart

I feel heart is the most towny atm - actually trying to question the game-state and evaluate us that haven’t had suspicion or votes on us. The N4 explanations he had for ghug’s questions are very similar to my own approaches I make and that resonates with me.

Going to post in spam as I don’t want to lose a massive wall due to wifi dropping…

Don’t you also think I’m the vig? This is scummy reads list

Only because of how you berated whoever they are.

But the kills choice I feel don’t match you. And I think you’re smart enough to not have killed an un’CC-ed PR

[worcej]

I will just admit that I suck at reading rdr and ghug.

Rdr is very… all business? (Don’t have a better term to describe it…) and I never sense any emotion behind his posts. This makes him very good at scum to me and easier for him to fake town to me. At this moment, he is not doing much (really no one is…), but his D4 was towny to me and his logic for getting Chaqa was sound.

Ghug was always just an auto-lock scum read for me for a long time. Probably due to other personality conflict reasons. I think I am moving past that, but that still creeps in from time to time. This game, he has been on the town side imo because of the D1 nailing of sweet in a situation where scum did not need to bus. He also had plenty of time to move if he needed to, so the notion of “being stuck” doesn’t apply to me. What makes me keep being concerned though is how is he still alive now? I figured he was dead on N4…

Do you not sense emotion when he was dealing with Just?

Not really? He said the F word but that isn’t like what I see from other players. I feel like damo gives off more emotion than rdr

[worcej]

Lastly, Bunny - highest scum read atm.

The major knocks:
1. Hyper tunneling Bona like a fool - most advantageous move for scum was to go all-out discrediting him. Scum wanted to get a shot or DK here no matter what and he never listened to any reason or showed doubt about it. It’s a good example of open-wolfing.

2. The mechanics breakdown felt silly and fake - he was so in on the Jamie mechanics and how it fingered Bona as scum to screw up MiLo timing just doesn’t vibe with me.

3. D2 re-read feels really off to me. I get this vibe that he is working a lot of distancing from Will by fake grilling him and pushing on him, yet never actually votes for him. It just doesn’t make sense to me what town!Bunny would be doing here.

[worcej]

Beginning decent now into SLC, so wifi is going to drop and I’ll miss EoN phase.

Vig - wait until the last second to claim if you plan to.

[brainbomb]

phase shift in 30 minutes

[BunnyGo]

I’m a dumb fuck.

Got cocky with my first shot.

Lost my focus.

Me. Dumb fuck.

Forgot about roleblock. Thought bona would self-save if claim was true.

Dumb bunny…

First ever miss.

[brainbomb]

please hold

[brainbomb]

rdrivera2005 has died he was a Small Town Guy

[brainbomb]

you may now post

[BunnyGo]

I’m a dumb fuck.

Got cocky with my first shot.

Lost my focus.

Me. Dumb fuck.

Forgot about roleblock. Thought bona would self-save if claim was true.

Dumb bunny…

First ever miss.

I’d even worked it all out to not shoot. And then ghug made that post about town inspired kills. And I was distracted and excited and thought bona would self save. Gah. That sucked.

[ghug]

Rip rd. Removing him and Bunny from POE really simplifies my life. I think it's heart/worcej.