MAfIA 84 - A VERY TENDER THANKSGIVING GAME THREAD

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Re: MAfIA 84 - A VERY TENDER THANKSGIVING GAME THREAD

#2761 Post by ghug » Sat Dec 02, 2023 6:19 am

heartthrob24909 wrote:
Sat Dec 02, 2023 5:25 am
ghug wrote:
Sat Dec 02, 2023 5:10 am
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Sat Dec 02, 2023 5:04 am


This is fair. I'll admit that part of my personal issue here is that it's been tricky to try and project personalities onto some of you this game just by virtue of now knowing you/your playstyles.

I consider ghug and worcej to generally be my blindspots/people that I feel neutral about. I really do wish I could be more helpful but what would be valuable to me is to see how they react under pressure.

All of damo's numbers talk has felt like smoke and mirrors to me but I've gotten the impression this is just what he does so I haven't pushed when it feels to me like whatever he says is just made up. Maybe personal preference here, but even I'd put more weight in a "gut feeling" read than an analysis which says I am 42 percent likely to be scum.

Rdr is my strongest townread of those 4 names. He has come across all game as articulate and logical and I haven't found much from him to poke into. His name is on the list for completeness and because I think it's generally bad strategy to totally rule someone out.
Ok, I read all of that and still have no idea who you think the scum are. It sounds like you townread rd, so throw him out. How do you order the other three? What about Macca and Bunny?
Part of where it's felt most natural/appropriate for me to plug in so far this game is my stating my observations and asking questions. As opposed to being able to provide concrete reads (though I have been trying to do this when requested).

What I lack in experience with all of you and with the game (didn't know what crumbing was until a few days ago), I am trying to make up for with fresh eyes that hopefully can ask a good question that will maybe get a more experienced or more comfortable player thinking in a different way.

I don't necessarily think that sorting people into scum/town is always the best thing to do because it can lead to confirmation bias. Sure, I'll tell you I townread rdr because you asked me, but I don't think I really mean that.

I think that's what I've been trying to get to in wanting to put pressure on different people. The Chaqa/Temasek/Heartthrob scumread has stayed pretty static for a couple rounds now and the town's gotten it wrong twice and if they don't change how they're thinking about it they're going to get it wrong again
So, the time for pressure to feel things outwas earlier.. There was a bit of an opportunity for it today, but we have to get our kills right now and it's harder to get a real wagon going on someone new if people aren't really feeling it. That's not to say anyone that isn't you or Bunny can't be pushed, just that it realistically has to be a big one.

Your explanation for your behavior is plausible, bit it's also very believable that you've just been hesitation to commit because you're scum, and that makes you at the very least hard to read.

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Re: MAfIA 84 - A VERY TENDER THANKSGIVING GAME THREAD

#2762 Post by damo666 » Sat Dec 02, 2023 11:21 am

ghug wrote:
Fri Dec 01, 2023 11:31 pm
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Sorry Chaqa.

Nothing really to be said during night. The survivors should be a lot wiser tomorrow.
I'd like ya to talk tonight, personality.
I'm around for the next couple of hours or so and will then be missing until about EON -2.

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Re: MAfIA 84 - A VERY TENDER THANKSGIVING GAME THREAD

#2763 Post by rdrivera2005 » Sat Dec 02, 2023 1:14 pm

Pretty bad result. Won't be hypocrite and say I am sorry, still think Chaqa played a lazy game that lead to this.

I think last scum are between Bunny, Damo and Ghug, but I just could be blind again to someone like Macca.

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Re: MAfIA 84 - A VERY TENDER THANKSGIVING GAME THREAD

#2764 Post by rdrivera2005 » Sat Dec 02, 2023 1:16 pm

worcej wrote:
Sat Dec 02, 2023 1:46 am
heartthrob24909 wrote:
Fri Dec 01, 2023 11:14 pm
heartthrob24909 wrote:
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We dont have to do this during Night phase but like in general... think it tends to be a good idea to not have narrowed down the list of suspects to like 3/8. Learned this the hard way during a work game
Idc how hard you town read them but specifically
- ghug
- worcej
- damo
- rdr

Have yet to be subject to any real pressure from the votes.
No argument here. I am skeptical at the others in this list - they would be wise ones to know to take me to MiLo/KiLo as an easy miskill
I don't think you are an easy miskill you aren’t in anyone's top scum list. It's far easiest for me to be miskilled, for example, because I am most suspect list of the remaining players.

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Re: MAfIA 84 - A VERY TENDER THANKSGIVING GAME THREAD

#2765 Post by damo666 » Sat Dec 02, 2023 1:54 pm

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Sat Dec 02, 2023 1:14 pm
Pretty bad result. Won't be hypocrite and say I am sorry, still think Chaqa played a lazy game that lead to this.

I think last scum are between Bunny, Damo and Ghug, but I just could be blind again to someone like Macca.
We are all blind to Macca. Be interesting if she is not the NK.

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Re: MAfIA 84 - A VERY TENDER THANKSGIVING GAME THREAD

#2766 Post by worcej » Sat Dec 02, 2023 6:07 pm

rdrivera2005 wrote:
Sat Dec 02, 2023 1:16 pm
worcej wrote:
Sat Dec 02, 2023 1:46 am
heartthrob24909 wrote:
Fri Dec 01, 2023 11:14 pm


Idc how hard you town read them but specifically
- ghug
- worcej
- damo
- rdr

Have yet to be subject to any real pressure from the votes.
No argument here. I am skeptical at the others in this list - they would be wise ones to know to take me to MiLo/KiLo as an easy miskill
I don't think you are an easy miskill you aren’t in anyone's top scum list. It's far easiest for me to be miskilled, for example, because I am most suspect list of the remaining players.
I was generalizing my own opinions of myself. I am trying to figure out why I am still alive at this point.

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Re: MAfIA 84 - A VERY TENDER THANKSGIVING GAME THREAD

#2767 Post by ghug » Sat Dec 02, 2023 10:31 pm

So I feel like individually the most scummy players at this point are heart and Bunny, but Bunny's been defending heart in a way I don't think he would with a teammate here, so I doubt it's both of them. The next two are worcej and rd. I think that outburst from worcej about Bunny was pretty towny on its own but I think it hard unpairs him from Bunny, so I'd rate the following four teams in order of likelihood:

heart/Rd
Bunny/Rd
Heart/worcej
Rd/worcej

I think it's pretty unlikely either of Macca and damo is scum at this point.

Also please no kill tomorrow unless there are competing vig claims.

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Re: MAfIA 84 - A VERY TENDER THANKSGIVING GAME THREAD

#2768 Post by brainbomb » Sat Dec 02, 2023 11:00 pm

Please Hold
What can I say? I'm survivin'
Crawling out these sheets to see another day

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Re: MAfIA 84 - A VERY TENDER THANKSGIVING GAME THREAD

#2769 Post by brainbomb » Sat Dec 02, 2023 11:02 pm

Meanwhile at Blake Sheltons Christmas

A fan collapses in the mosh pit mysteriously

macca has died she was a Small town girl
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Re: MAfIA 84 - A VERY TENDER THANKSGIVING GAME THREAD

#2770 Post by brainbomb » Sat Dec 02, 2023 11:02 pm

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Re: MAfIA 84 - A VERY TENDER THANKSGIVING GAME THREAD

#2771 Post by ghug » Sat Dec 02, 2023 11:04 pm

RIP Macca, but that seems pretty ok for us given her availability

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Re: MAfIA 84 - A VERY TENDER THANKSGIVING GAME THREAD

#2772 Post by ghug » Sat Dec 02, 2023 11:23 pm

Hi, dead scummies.

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Re: MAfIA 84 - A VERY TENDER THANKSGIVING GAME THREAD

#2773 Post by BunnyGo » Sat Dec 02, 2023 11:39 pm

Sorry. Was at my parents and not caught up.

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Re: MAfIA 84 - A VERY TENDER THANKSGIVING GAME THREAD

#2774 Post by BunnyGo » Sat Dec 02, 2023 11:50 pm

Damo keeps being my scummiest read. Why’s he your towniest @ghug?
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Re: MAfIA 84 - A VERY TENDER THANKSGIVING GAME THREAD

#2775 Post by BunnyGo » Sat Dec 02, 2023 11:51 pm

BunnyGo wrote:
Sat Dec 02, 2023 11:50 pm
Damo keeps being my scummiest read. Why’s he your towniest @ghug?
Or I should say: the person I keep not being able to town read at all.
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Re: MAfIA 84 - A VERY TENDER THANKSGIVING GAME THREAD

#2776 Post by ghug » Sat Dec 02, 2023 11:52 pm

BunnyGo wrote:
Sat Dec 02, 2023 11:50 pm
Damo keeps being my scummiest read. Why’s he your towniest @ghug?
He seems like typical damo with logic that's inscrutable but exists and I still believe he townslipped.

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Re: MAfIA 84 - A VERY TENDER THANKSGIVING GAME THREAD

#2777 Post by ghug » Sun Dec 03, 2023 2:41 am

This is quite the showing...

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Re: MAfIA 84 - A VERY TENDER THANKSGIVING GAME THREAD

#2778 Post by worcej » Sun Dec 03, 2023 2:46 am

4-2 is Milo so ##vote no-kill is the optimal play without an obvious scum choice.

Vig should not claim until EoN phase before Kilo so they can possibly live to make the phase easier.

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Re: MAfIA 84 - A VERY TENDER THANKSGIVING GAME THREAD

#2779 Post by damo666 » Sun Dec 03, 2023 4:34 am

##vote no kill

@ghug

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#2780 Post by damo666 » Sun Dec 03, 2023 4:38 am

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