MAfIA 84 - A VERY TENDER THANKSGIVING GAME THREAD

[worcej]

I'm alarmed at the the lull

Business travel makes it harder for me

[worcej]

##vote worcej

feeling like the most likely of the 3 right now

Are you fucking kidding me here?

[heartthrob24909]

The case on me is basically that you don't like that you were wrong about Jamie/Bona, and you all think I'm so bad and dumb at this game I should have been wrong, and the fact I saw this coming and asked the vig to shoot me means I'm DEFINITELY scum.

yawn

You guys know Chaqa better than I do. This kind of emotion in a post generally makes me think town in my limited experience but its one of those things that super depends on the individual...

Bunny probably knows the player from our other games that I'm referring to.

I know many of you think Chaqa and I are a scumpair but regardless I'm hoping for an answer to this

[worcej]

Bunny, going full death tunnel on Bona the entire damn time and wouldn’t possibly consider Bona is the doctor is probably the dumbass vig who shot him.

I want to scum you for all the bullshit you’ve done these phases, but you’re so clearly the vig based off all the insults you’ve thrown out at the vig when you’ll never insult anyone else makes it clear to me you’re a clear.

Drives
Me
Fucking
Nuts

[heartthrob24909]

Oh geez.

In the original post "Tem or Bunny" should have been "Heart or Bunny"

In the meantime I forgot Tem was dead and so when rivera asked, I replied as such. As it turns out, it makes sense Tem isn't involved as theyre dead.

Carry on

You specified heart in a post immediately after...

Damn how high was I lol


You now see the problem that I run into when playing mafia. I don’t remember when or why I do things but people want explanations and reasons that I don’t have, so I make something up that I think is what I was thinking

I kinda believe him

[BunnyGo]

##vote worcej

feeling like the most likely of the 3 right now

Are you fucking kidding me here?

I dunno man...I'm not very good at this game. Who do you think is scummier besides chaqa?

[BunnyGo]

The case on me is basically that you don't like that you were wrong about Jamie/Bona, and you all think I'm so bad and dumb at this game I should have been wrong, and the fact I saw this coming and asked the vig to shoot me means I'm DEFINITELY scum.

yawn

You guys know Chaqa better than I do. This kind of emotion in a post generally makes me think town in my limited experience but its one of those things that super depends on the individual...

Bunny probably knows the player from our other games that I'm referring to.

I know many of you think Chaqa and I are a scumpair but regardless I'm hoping for an answer to this

I have no idea how to read Chaqa.

[heartthrob24909]

I'm not clear on what you're concluding here.

How do two new players not mention him once?

Not quote any of his posts. Not mention his name?

Chaqa's second post was to quote Just's first and say "suspicious buddying" and Just ignored it.

This is actually interesting bc we know Just loved a good moment to defend himself

[BunnyGo]

Bunny, going full death tunnel on Bona the entire damn time and wouldn’t possibly consider Bona is the doctor is probably the dumbass vig who shot him.

I want to scum you for all the bullshit you’ve done these phases, but you’re so clearly the vig based off all the insults you’ve thrown out at the vig when you’ll never insult anyone else makes it clear to me you’re a clear.

Drives
Me
Fucking
Nuts

I've never missed as vig.

I *hate* the ubermensch play instead of trusting town.

But you're right...that wasn't nice of me; I went from a high where they got scum to a low where they got doctor and I felt responsible for pushing the bona wagon with ghug.

Either way, you're right I'm town. Help me hunt...I'm not that great at hunting.

[worcej]

Chaqa dredging up shade about me being a shitty PR is weird and means nothing this game. His reads scream “I am scum and know more than you” and has shown little doubt and actual engagement with us discussing the situations at large

[ghug]

My current thoughts:

Town:

Me, rdr, Macca, ghug, heart

POE:

damo, chaqa, worcej

Heart is town for not knowing about PRs?

Why the rest of us?

[worcej]

Bunny, going full death tunnel on Bona the entire damn time and wouldn’t possibly consider Bona is the doctor is probably the dumbass vig who shot him.

I want to scum you for all the bullshit you’ve done these phases, but you’re so clearly the vig based off all the insults you’ve thrown out at the vig when you’ll never insult anyone else makes it clear to me you’re a clear.

Drives
Me
Fucking
Nuts

I've never missed as vig.

I *hate* the ubermensch play instead of trusting town.

But you're right...that wasn't nice of me; I went from a high where they got scum to a low where they got doctor and I felt responsible for pushing the bona wagon with ghug.

Either way, you're right I'm town. Help me hunt...I'm not that great at hunting.

Chaqa is my top scum read. Read last post.

I am worried about ghug and rdr currently - as they are good players as either alignment. I am poor at reading them normally.

[BunnyGo]

Chaqa dredging up shade about me being a shitty PR is weird and means nothing this game. His reads scream “I am scum and know more than you” and has shown little doubt and actual engagement with us discussing the situations at large

Spell it out for me: I usually just think of chaqa as pure chaos monkey with occasional brilliance as town. I have no idea what goes on in his head besides (Union busting) chipotle.

[heartthrob24909]

If my analysis is correct, then of the remaining players, only 3 have been a leading wagon (counting 3+ votes and having the most votes or tied) at some point in the game so far and live to tell the tale. Those are the following:
- Macca on Day 1 and Day 2
- Chaqa on Day 3
- Heartthrob (me) on Day 3

At the time the aforementioned wagon fell apart:
- alternative wagons to Macca on Day 1 were Just (S) and Sweet (S)
- alternative wagons to Macca on Day 2 were Temasek (T), Bona (T), and Ham (T)
- alternative wagons to Chaqa were Temasek (T) and ultimately Heartthrob (?)
- alternative wagon to Heartthrob was Temasek (T)

Additional wagons on surviving players that have emerged but did not gain enough momentum to ever take the lead are:
- a BunnyGo wagon emerged on Day 3 once Temasek (T) had already taken a commanding lead in the votes.

Can at least one person say something about this? I color coded it...

[BunnyGo]

Bunny, going full death tunnel on Bona the entire damn time and wouldn’t possibly consider Bona is the doctor is probably the dumbass vig who shot him.

I want to scum you for all the bullshit you’ve done these phases, but you’re so clearly the vig based off all the insults you’ve thrown out at the vig when you’ll never insult anyone else makes it clear to me you’re a clear.

Drives
Me
Fucking
Nuts

I've never missed as vig.

I *hate* the ubermensch play instead of trusting town.

But you're right...that wasn't nice of me; I went from a high where they got scum to a low where they got doctor and I felt responsible for pushing the bona wagon with ghug.

Either way, you're right I'm town. Help me hunt...I'm not that great at hunting.

Chaqa is my top scum read. Read last post.

I am worried about ghug and rdr currently - as they are good players as either alignment. I am poor at reading them normally.

I've never vibed with rdr as hard as I have this game. Normally I find you to be the player most saying what I'm thinking, but this game literally every rdr post has said my thoughts.

I've seen him as scum many many times, but never felt that way before. Even his angry posts with Just felt authentic. I dunno about him being scum...seems tougher to believe.

ghug I can rarely read; every time I've voted scum!ghug has felt like luck or following someone else onto it.

[ghug]

Bunny, going full death tunnel on Bona the entire damn time and wouldn’t possibly consider Bona is the doctor is probably the dumbass vig who shot him.

I want to scum you for all the bullshit you’ve done these phases, but you’re so clearly the vig based off all the insults you’ve thrown out at the vig when you’ll never insult anyone else makes it clear to me you’re a clear.

Drives
Me
Fucking
Nuts

...

Ok maybe worcej is town

[BunnyGo]

My current thoughts:

Town:

Me, rdr, Macca, ghug, heart

POE:

damo, chaqa, worcej

Heart is town for not knowing about PRs?

Why the rest of us?

Macca for day 1 wagon; rdr for saying what I'm thinking in the emotion I'm thinking it literally every post. Never seen that with scum!rdr.

you...I have trouble with you, but you seem earnest this game. Maybe it's residual from when I thought you were doctor and I need to re-examine that train of thought some more.

[heartthrob24909]

Bunny, going full death tunnel on Bona the entire damn time and wouldn’t possibly consider Bona is the doctor is probably the dumbass vig who shot him.

I want to scum you for all the bullshit you’ve done these phases, but you’re so clearly the vig based off all the insults you’ve thrown out at the vig when you’ll never insult anyone else makes it clear to me you’re a clear.

Drives
Me
Fucking
Nuts

...

Ok maybe worcej is town

How does this differ from this to you:

What the fuck is wrong with you?

Quite a long list but what's wrong with my post?

Stating PR read bad.

[ghug]

If my analysis is correct, then of the remaining players, only 3 have been a leading wagon (counting 3+ votes and having the most votes or tied) at some point in the game so far and live to tell the tale. Those are the following:
- Macca on Day 1 and Day 2
- Chaqa on Day 3
- Heartthrob (me) on Day 3

At the time the aforementioned wagon fell apart:
- alternative wagons to Macca on Day 1 were Just (S) and Sweet (S)
- alternative wagons to Macca on Day 2 were Temasek (T), Bona (T), and Ham (T)
- alternative wagons to Chaqa were Temasek (T) and ultimately Heartthrob (?)
- alternative wagon to Heartthrob was Temasek (T)

Additional wagons on surviving players that have emerged but did not gain enough momentum to ever take the lead are:
- a BunnyGo wagon emerged on Day 3 once Temasek (T) had already taken a commanding lead in the votes.

Can at least one person say something about this? I color coded it...

What do you conclude from it?

[worcej]

Chaqa dredging up shade about me being a shitty PR is weird and means nothing this game. His reads scream “I am scum and know more than you” and has shown little doubt and actual engagement with us discussing the situations at large

Spell it out for me: I usually just think of chaqa as pure chaos monkey with occasional brilliance as town. I have no idea what goes on in his head besides (Union busting) chipotle.

This game has felt like he is shipping it in and just not engaging. The fact he was so adamant that Jamie didn’t flag or see Bona makes no sense to me as a town mindset because Jamie came off as signaling it.

I felt he has been operating with little doubt in his game and not really questioning the situation each phase - just shoving his read out and nothing more.