MAfIA 84 - A VERY TENDER THANKSGIVING GAME THREAD

[rdrivera2005]

We should kill today. If we miskill we might choose to no-kill tomorrow.

I have doubts about the Vig for the reasons I pointed. We could agree to no kill if someone claims on the block and Vig can CC at EON like Ghug suggested but this will need a majority around at EOD.

[worcej]

##vote Chaqa

The broken record is a concern.

[BunnyGo]

We should kill today. If we miskill we might choose to no-kill tomorrow.

I have doubts about the Vig for the reasons I pointed. We could agree to no kill if someone claims on the block and Vig can CC at EON like Ghug suggested but this will need a majority around at EOD.

If someone doesn't claim on the block...are they VT?

Are we inviting double-bluff this way?

I don't like your plan as described:

Option 1: Scum on the block, claims vig...we then miskill (unless we're good enough to have SvS again)

Option 2: VT on the block, claims VT...we then miskill

Option 3: Vig on the block, claims Vig...we then miskill AND get a CC claim during the night from scum leading to another miskill.

[heartthrob24909]

If my analysis is correct, then of the remaining players, only 3 have been a leading wagon (counting 3+ votes and having the most votes or tied) at some point in the game so far and live to tell the tale. Those are the following:
- Macca on Day 1 and Day 2
- Chaqa on Day 3
- Heartthrob (me) on Day 3

At the time the aforementioned wagon fell apart:
- alternative wagons to Macca on Day 1 were Just (S) and Sweet (S)
- alternative wagons to Macca on Day 2 were Temasek (T), Bona (T), and Ham (T)
- alternative wagons to Chaqa were Temasek (T) and ultimately Heartthrob (?)
- alternative wagon to Heartthrob was Temasek (T)

Additional wagons on surviving players that have emerged but did not gain enough momentum to ever take the lead are:
- a BunnyGo wagon emerged on Day 3 once Temasek (T) had already taken a commanding lead in the votes.

[heartthrob24909]

If my analysis is correct, then of the remaining players, only 3 have been a leading wagon (counting 3+ votes and having the most votes or tied) at some point in the game so far and live to tell the tale. Those are the following:
- Macca on Day 1 and Day 2
- Chaqa on Day 3
- Heartthrob (me) on Day 3

At the time the aforementioned wagon fell apart:
- alternative wagons to Macca on Day 1 were Just (S) and Sweet (S)
- alternative wagons to Macca on Day 2 were Temasek (T), Bona (T), and Ham (T)
- alternative wagons to Chaqa were Temasek (T) and ultimately Heartthrob (?)
- alternative wagon to Heartthrob was Temasek (T)

Additional wagons on surviving players that have emerged but did not gain enough momentum to ever take the lead are:
- a BunnyGo wagon emerged on Day 3 once Temasek (T) had already taken a commanding lead in the votes.

Looks like I messed up a lot of the color coding but you get the idea. Once again I think this paints Macca in a favorable light

[rdrivera2005]

We should kill today. If we miskill we might choose to no-kill tomorrow.

I have doubts about the Vig for the reasons I pointed. We could agree to no kill if someone claims on the block and Vig can CC at EON like Ghug suggested but this will need a majority around at EOD.

If someone doesn't claim on the block...are they VT?

Are we inviting double-bluff this way?

I don't like your plan as described:

Option 1: Scum on the block, claims vig...we then miskill (unless we're good enough to have SvS again)

Option 2: VT on the block, claims VT...we then miskill

Option 3: Vig on the block, claims Vig...we then miskill AND get a CC claim during the night from scum leading to another miskill.

Not what I said. I think any scum in the block will claim vig unless he wants to use the double bluff to say he is VT and try to convince people. What I am saying is that if we have a claim at EOD we choose to no-kill and let Vig cc at EON. We will still have a miskill so we can deal with a 1 x 1. It's a bit of a WIFOM as it makes less interesting for scum to claim.

[heartthrob24909]

If my analysis is correct, then of the remaining players, only 3 have been a leading wagon (counting 3+ votes and having the most votes or tied) at some point in the game so far and live to tell the tale. Those are the following:
- Macca on Day 1 and Day 2
- Chaqa on Day 3
- Heartthrob (me) on Day 3

At the time the aforementioned wagon fell apart:
- alternative wagons to Macca on Day 1 were Just (S) and Sweet (S)
- alternative wagons to Macca on Day 2 were Temasek (T), Bona (T), and Ham (T)
- alternative wagons to Chaqa were Temasek (T) and ultimately Heartthrob (?)
- alternative wagon to Heartthrob was Temasek (T)

Additional wagons on surviving players that have emerged but did not gain enough momentum to ever take the lead are:
- a BunnyGo wagon emerged on Day 3 once Temasek (T) had already taken a commanding lead in the votes.

I don't have firm conclusions to present at this time other than the fact that not a whole lot of us who are left have been under real pressure from the votes yet.

[BunnyGo]

We should kill today. If we miskill we might choose to no-kill tomorrow.

I have doubts about the Vig for the reasons I pointed. We could agree to no kill if someone claims on the block and Vig can CC at EON like Ghug suggested but this will need a majority around at EOD.

If someone doesn't claim on the block...are they VT?

Are we inviting double-bluff this way?

I don't like your plan as described:

Option 1: Scum on the block, claims vig...we then miskill (unless we're good enough to have SvS again)

Option 2: VT on the block, claims VT...we then miskill

Option 3: Vig on the block, claims Vig...we then miskill AND get a CC claim during the night from scum leading to another miskill.

Not what I said. I think any scum in the block will claim vig unless he wants to use the double bluff to say he is VT and try to convince people. What I am saying is that if we have a claim at EOD we choose to no-kill and let Vig cc at EON. We will still have a miskill so we can deal with a 1 x 1. It's a bit of a WIFOM as it makes less interesting for scum to claim.

Should we not just take it away from scum and ask the vig to claim now?

What benefit do you see in the vig hiding?

[Chaqa]

I told you guys he wasn’t crumbing

This whole thing has been dumb

Can you remind me why you didn't think so?

Mostly I know how Jamie plays and it didn't feel like a Jamie crumb.

[Chaqa]

I told you guys he wasn’t crumbing

This whole thing has been dumb

I disagree with you that you communicated this.

##vote Chaqa for the time being

Well the fun part is I did, and you even quoted it

[Chaqa]

##vote Chaqa

The broken record is a concern.

You're one to talk

[Chaqa]

Vig should have shot me instead smh

[BunnyGo]

Vig should have shot me instead smh

town!Chaqa would just win the game for us here...

c'mon man...

[rdrivera2005]

Vig should have shot me instead smh

Vig should have shot anyone but Bona, but this isn't the point here.

[rdrivera2005]

If someone doesn't claim on the block...are they VT?

Are we inviting double-bluff this way?

I don't like your plan as described:

Option 1: Scum on the block, claims vig...we then miskill (unless we're good enough to have SvS again)

Option 2: VT on the block, claims VT...we then miskill

Option 3: Vig on the block, claims Vig...we then miskill AND get a CC claim during the night from scum leading to another miskill.

Not what I said. I think any scum in the block will claim vig unless he wants to use the double bluff to say he is VT and try to convince people. What I am saying is that if we have a claim at EOD we choose to no-kill and let Vig cc at EON. We will still have a miskill so we can deal with a 1 x 1. It's a bit of a WIFOM as it makes less interesting for scum to claim.

Should we not just take it away from scum and ask the vig to claim now?

What benefit do you see in the vig hiding?

That was what I was considering but then scum will just NK him. If we kill scum today then Vig can stay hidden and we might have a clear at Kilo. But considering how small the Vig pool currently is not sure if this is really a possibility.

[Chaqa]

Vig should have shot me instead smh

town!Chaqa would just win the game for us here...

c'mon man...

By "us" you mean your dastardly mafia team!

##Vote Bunny

[BunnyGo]

Not what I said. I think any scum in the block will claim vig unless he wants to use the double bluff to say he is VT and try to convince people. What I am saying is that if we have a claim at EOD we choose to no-kill and let Vig cc at EON. We will still have a miskill so we can deal with a 1 x 1. It's a bit of a WIFOM as it makes less interesting for scum to claim.

Should we not just take it away from scum and ask the vig to claim now?

What benefit do you see in the vig hiding?

That was what I was considering but then scum will just NK him. If we kill scum today then Vig can stay hidden and we might have a clear at Kilo. But considering how small the Vig pool currently is not sure if this is really a possibility.

That's what I'm thinking too.

[BunnyGo]

Vig should have shot me instead smh

town!Chaqa would just win the game for us here...

c'mon man...

By "us" you mean your dastardly mafia team!

##Vote Bunny

WHY?!

[ghug]

Why is everyone voting me?

I'm the only one putting colored VCA together and working with bozo to analyze things.

They killed bozo to keep him quiet from searching...

And vig obviously shot bona because vig trusted me.

I did tell damo to shoot bona. You the vig, damo? Should the vig even claim at this point since they're out of shots?

What the fuck is this post?

I'm honestly surprised people are voting me. Isn't it towny to be wrong about Bona?

On its face, yes, but you'd be aware of that and it's not that simple. That bit is fine, though. It's the color bullshit and the vig bullshit that have me questioning the post.

[BunnyGo]

What the fuck is this post?

I'm honestly surprised people are voting me. Isn't it towny to be wrong about Bona?

On its face, yes, but you'd be aware of that and it's not that simple. That bit is fine, though. It's the color bullshit and the vig bullshit that have me questioning the post.

I'm allowed to be silly...

I'm in a silly mood.