MAfIA 84 - A VERY TENDER THANKSGIVING GAME THREAD

[BunnyGo]

Why is it obvious that he is not the real doctor?

a) I was already coming around to the idea he was scum during N2

b) his snap claim is silly as doctor; both to claim, and to specifically claim both his night actions--just don't say them

c) his claim is in contradiction to the assumption Jamie saw him visiting spirit

d) his only prior claims that I could dig up were dragged out of him at last minute (see my post referencing all the claims he's ever made that weren't of the nature "I claim I'm an american" or "I claim bofa deez nuts!")

What made you suspect Bonatogether N2?

I'd been saying how I townread him. in M82 (my most recent game) I had been saying the same thing. He responded identically this game to that one and was scum in that one. Basically calling me scum for townreading him.

[bozotheclown]

a) I was already coming around to the idea he was scum during N2

b) his snap claim is silly as doctor; both to claim, and to specifically claim both his night actions--just don't say them

c) his claim is in contradiction to the assumption Jamie saw him visiting spirit

d) his only prior claims that I could dig up were dragged out of him at last minute (see my post referencing all the claims he's ever made that weren't of the nature "I claim I'm an american" or "I claim bofa deez nuts!")

The assumption about Jamie could be wrong, and Bonatogether's claim is not a good claim as mafia either. Also, the mafia have a ninja.

And roleblocker...they probably used both on spirit.

If they roleblocked SpiritoftheRadio they did not need to use the ninja, but that is not relevant. Why would they risk being seen by the watcher to make sure SpiritoftheRadio was not doctor protecting himself?

[Chaqa]

I'm not claiming chaqa flipping scum confirms bona is scum

Then how was I D1 "open-Chaqaing"?

Your theory rests on all 3 being scum

To be fair: I think you'd post that as scum with them being any combination of T/T, S/S, T/S.

You'd also post that as town.

Hence "open-Chaqaing"

So you're voting me for being myself? lol

[Chaqa]

I don't mind being Vig fodder btw

Chaqa voters, what do we think of this? Why would he say this?

Cos he's either vt or scum

You know something I don't?

[Chaqa]

Cos he's either vt or scum

Or vig

If he was vig he'd have shot you by now.

This is objectively false.

[Chaqa]

Did I just become the consensus Vigilante? Of course I did. Can anyone explain why they think I am vig?

Because you haven't been shot yet

[BunnyGo]

The assumption about Jamie could be wrong, and Bonatogether's claim is not a good claim as mafia either. Also, the mafia have a ninja.

And roleblocker...they probably used both on spirit.

If they roleblocked SpiritoftheRadio they did not need to use the ninja, but that is not relevant. Why would they risk being seen by the watcher to make sure SpiritoftheRadio was not doctor protecting himself?

Hmm...

This is...interesting.

So you're saying you suspect the scum team didn't use the roleblock at all N1 out of fear of the watcher?

[BunnyGo]

Then how was I D1 "open-Chaqaing"?

Your theory rests on all 3 being scum

To be fair: I think you'd post that as scum with them being any combination of T/T, S/S, T/S.

You'd also post that as town.

Hence "open-Chaqaing"

So you're voting me for being myself? lol

Welcome back! Hope you keep coming!

[Bonatogether]

a) I was already coming around to the idea he was scum during N2

b) his snap claim is silly as doctor; both to claim, and to specifically claim both his night actions--just don't say them

c) his claim is in contradiction to the assumption Jamie saw him visiting spirit

d) his only prior claims that I could dig up were dragged out of him at last minute (see my post referencing all the claims he's ever made that weren't of the nature "I claim I'm an american" or "I claim bofa deez nuts!")

What made you suspect Bonatogether N2?

I'd been saying how I townread him. in M82 (my most recent game) I had been saying the same thing. He responded identically this game to that one and was scum in that one. Basically calling me scum for townreading him.

i mean you have truly abysmal accuracy reading me, and you being right is therefore scummy

[BunnyGo]

What made you suspect Bonatogether N2?

I'd been saying how I townread him. in M82 (my most recent game) I had been saying the same thing. He responded identically this game to that one and was scum in that one. Basically calling me scum for townreading him.

i mean you have truly abysmal accuracy reading me, and you being right is therefore scummy

Yeah...but you said it identically. You told the same lie twice...

[bozotheclown]

a) I was already coming around to the idea he was scum during N2

b) his snap claim is silly as doctor; both to claim, and to specifically claim both his night actions--just don't say them

c) his claim is in contradiction to the assumption Jamie saw him visiting spirit

d) his only prior claims that I could dig up were dragged out of him at last minute (see my post referencing all the claims he's ever made that weren't of the nature "I claim I'm an american" or "I claim bofa deez nuts!")

What made you suspect Bonatogether N2?

I'd been saying how I townread him. in M82 (my most recent game) I had been saying the same thing. He responded identically this game to that one and was scum in that one. Basically calling me scum for townreading him.

Bonatogether said that during D2, why did it take you until N2 to scum read him for that?

[BunnyGo]

What made you suspect Bonatogether N2?

I'd been saying how I townread him. in M82 (my most recent game) I had been saying the same thing. He responded identically this game to that one and was scum in that one. Basically calling me scum for townreading him.

Bonatogether said that during D2, why did it take you until N2 to scum read him for that?

town tunnel vision. Just realizing it affected me the same way that I wanted to town read him harder, and then realized "oh wait a minute...he did this before"

[bozotheclown]

And roleblocker...they probably used both on spirit.

If they roleblocked SpiritoftheRadio they did not need to use the ninja, but that is not relevant. Why would they risk being seen by the watcher to make sure SpiritoftheRadio was not doctor protecting himself?

Hmm...

This is...interesting.

So you're saying you suspect the scum team didn't use the roleblock at all N1 out of fear of the watcher?

That's is what I would do, which is why I don't think it is obvious that Jamie was indicating he had confirmation that Bonatogether was mafia. Jamie may have just suspected Bonatogether after D2.

[bozotheclown]

i claim doctor

i normally don't crumb but bozo at least caught onto my 'other necessary measures' comment d1

saved myself n1
saved bozo n2

believe it's a good idea to claim because jamie seems to have indicated that he scumread me based on visits and if i am counterclaimed, a 1-1 trade is good for town. i am also able to potentially dodge nks in the event there is no cc.

Did you realize the mafia have a roleblocker when you made this claim?

[Bonatogether]

I'd been saying how I townread him. in M82 (my most recent game) I had been saying the same thing. He responded identically this game to that one and was scum in that one. Basically calling me scum for townreading him.

i mean you have truly abysmal accuracy reading me, and you being right is therefore scummy

Yeah...but you said it identically. You told the same lie twice...

yeah i responded to the same situation in the same ways

[Bonatogether]

i claim doctor

i normally don't crumb but bozo at least caught onto my 'other necessary measures' comment d1

saved myself n1
saved bozo n2

believe it's a good idea to claim because jamie seems to have indicated that he scumread me based on visits and if i am counterclaimed, a 1-1 trade is good for town. i am also able to potentially dodge nks in the event there is no cc.

Did you realize the mafia have a roleblocker when you made this claim?

no, i just skimmed the roles like mid d1 and never again

[damo666]

In Bona ?Jamie speculation posts I obviously meant Spirit not Sweet.

Anyway. question to the class.

Probability of Jamie having watched Spirit not being saved by Bona because Bona was RB'd?

Watch Bunny cite Bayes.

[BunnyGo]

i mean you have truly abysmal accuracy reading me, and you being right is therefore scummy

Yeah...but you said it identically. You told the same lie twice...

yeah i responded to the same situation in the same ways

You were scum last time and I was misreading you then...

[BunnyGo]

In Bona ?Jamie speculation posts I obviously meant Spirit not Sweet.

Anyway. question to the class.

Probability of Jamie having watched Spirit not being saved by Bona because Bona was RB'd?

Watch Bunny cite Bayes.

Was wondering when you'd notice the Spirit/Sweet mixup. I crumbed it before.

Not sure what it says: 1) as scum, would you be more likely to use your teammates name? 2) as town, would you be more likely to confuse the D1 and N1 deaths?

[bozotheclown]

In Bona ?Jamie speculation posts I obviously meant Spirit not Sweet.

Anyway. question to the class.

Probability of Jamie having watched Spirit not being saved by Bona because Bona was RB'd?

Watch Bunny cite Bayes.

I would say significantly lower that Jamie not having seen Bonatogether visit at all, which makes it not relevant, because in both cases Bonatogether could be the real doctor.