MAfIA 84 - A VERY TENDER THANKSGIVING GAME THREAD

[Jamiet99uk]

tl;dr:

Flip Bonatogether tomorrow, and if he is scum, flip BunnyGo.

If Bonatogether dies and is not scum, flip Chaqa or JustWill.

[Bonatogether]

Nothing more happened until 14 minutes from EoD, when Bona moved from BunnyGo to Hamilton to make Hamilton the lead wagon. Bona's vote post did not give a specific reason, but over the preceding pages, Bona had challenged Hamilton over his inconsistent read on Macca, and accused Hamilton of not making any sense in his p.73 post about how many Mafia Hamilton thought were on his wagon.

Those are reasons, possibly, okay, BUT...

The thing that pings me is this post:

Because I'll vote for the one wagon that's close to going and is more mafia than tem...

##Vote BunnyGo

wat

So here is Bona expressing surprise / confusion at Hamilton voting for BunnyGo, who was also the person Bona was voting at that moment.

At that moment it was Temasek (4) / Hamilton (4) / BunnyGo (3). So Hamilton was correct that BunnyGo was a viable wagon.

One minute later, Bona moved from Bunny to Hamilton, making it Hamilton (5) / Temasek (4) / BunnyGo (2)

This looks quite suspect.

Bona, please can you explain why, if you scumread BunnyGo at that moment in time, you seemed alarmed at Hamilton giving more traction to Bunny's wagon??

the wagon wasn't going anywhere, and hamilton's reason didn't make sense. he had previously declined to vote, and then made this weird move onto a wagon that by his previous posts is strange. he said that there was most likely 2 sweet bussers, and also that there were a lot of mafia on him. by that criteria, it's not clear why he thought me/damo (sweet voters) voting a non-sweet voter (bunny) makes sense, when he could have voted tem (the only sweet unvoter), which was mostly off-sweet voters (only sweet voters were ghug and bozo, both early and especially bozo, unlikely bussers).

i noted this at the time, but both temasek and brian were refusing to vote the other except extremely early in the day

[TheMadMonarch]

Had a busy day, haven't read anything. My understanding is that the 5 posts is day only, and I'm going to bed. I'll read and shit tomorrow.

[Jamiet99uk]

Had a busy day, haven't read anything. My understanding is that the 5 posts is day only, and I'm going to bed. I'll read and shit tomorrow.

Your toilet habits, present or future, do not need to be discussed in the thread.

[Jamiet99uk]

Nothing more happened until 14 minutes from EoD, when Bona moved from BunnyGo to Hamilton to make Hamilton the lead wagon. Bona's vote post did not give a specific reason, but over the preceding pages, Bona had challenged Hamilton over his inconsistent read on Macca, and accused Hamilton of not making any sense in his p.73 post about how many Mafia Hamilton thought were on his wagon.

Those are reasons, possibly, okay, BUT...

The thing that pings me is this post:

wat

So here is Bona expressing surprise / confusion at Hamilton voting for BunnyGo, who was also the person Bona was voting at that moment.

At that moment it was Temasek (4) / Hamilton (4) / BunnyGo (3). So Hamilton was correct that BunnyGo was a viable wagon.

One minute later, Bona moved from Bunny to Hamilton, making it Hamilton (5) / Temasek (4) / BunnyGo (2)

This looks quite suspect.

Bona, please can you explain why, if you scumread BunnyGo at that moment in time, you seemed alarmed at Hamilton giving more traction to Bunny's wagon??

the wagon wasn't going anywhere, and hamilton's reason didn't make sense. he had previously declined to vote, and then made this weird move onto a wagon that by his previous posts is strange. he said that there was most likely 2 sweet bussers, and also that there were a lot of mafia on him. by that criteria, it's not clear why he thought me/damo (sweet voters) voting a non-sweet voter (bunny) makes sense, when he could have voted tem (the only sweet unvoter), which was mostly off-sweet voters (only sweet voters were ghug and bozo, both early and especially bozo, unlikely bussers).

i noted this at the time, but both temasek and brian were refusing to vote the other except extremely early in the day

Hamilton's vote moved Bunny from (2) up to (3), only one vote behind the leaders, with 16 minutes to go, and with Damo advocating for people to join the Bunny wagon. This does not suggest "the wagon wasn't going anywhere" to me.

[Jamiet99uk]

Plus, Bona, Hamilton had mentioned that he scum-read Bunny several times during D2:

- Page 53
- Page 62
- Page 70 (twice)
- Page 73

Therefore Hamilton moving his vote onto BunnyGo (off a JustWill wagon, which Damo correctly told him wasn't going anywhere) was consistent with his previously-stated reads.

[Bonatogether]

Nothing more happened until 14 minutes from EoD, when Bona moved from BunnyGo to Hamilton to make Hamilton the lead wagon. Bona's vote post did not give a specific reason, but over the preceding pages, Bona had challenged Hamilton over his inconsistent read on Macca, and accused Hamilton of not making any sense in his p.73 post about how many Mafia Hamilton thought were on his wagon.

Those are reasons, possibly, okay, BUT...

The thing that pings me is this post:



So here is Bona expressing surprise / confusion at Hamilton voting for BunnyGo, who was also the person Bona was voting at that moment.

At that moment it was Temasek (4) / Hamilton (4) / BunnyGo (3). So Hamilton was correct that BunnyGo was a viable wagon.

One minute later, Bona moved from Bunny to Hamilton, making it Hamilton (5) / Temasek (4) / BunnyGo (2)

This looks quite suspect.

Bona, please can you explain why, if you scumread BunnyGo at that moment in time, you seemed alarmed at Hamilton giving more traction to Bunny's wagon??

the wagon wasn't going anywhere, and hamilton's reason didn't make sense. he had previously declined to vote, and then made this weird move onto a wagon that by his previous posts is strange. he said that there was most likely 2 sweet bussers, and also that there were a lot of mafia on him. by that criteria, it's not clear why he thought me/damo (sweet voters) voting a non-sweet voter (bunny) makes sense, when he could have voted tem (the only sweet unvoter), which was mostly off-sweet voters (only sweet voters were ghug and bozo, both early and especially bozo, unlikely bussers).

i noted this at the time, but both temasek and brian were refusing to vote the other except extremely early in the day

Hamilton's vote moved Bunny from (2) up to (3), only one vote behind the leaders, with 16 minutes to go, and with Damo advocating for people to join the Bunny wagon. This does not suggest "the wagon wasn't going anywhere" to me.

in thread at the time, it seemed a dead letter. hamilton and damo, for all their virtues, are not often listened to for a late eod wagon. there wasn't thread monemtum

[Bonatogether]

Plus, Bona, Hamilton had mentioned that he scum-read Bunny several times during D2:

- Page 53
- Page 62
- Page 70 (twice)
- Page 73

Therefore Hamilton moving his vote onto BunnyGo (off a JustWill wagon, which Damo correctly told him wasn't going anywhere) was consistent with his previously-stated reads.

hamilton had places null or scum reads on most of the game. his reads list had 5 reads that could possibly be remotely construed as townleans

[Jamiet99uk]

Hamilton's vote moved Bunny from (2) up to (3), only one vote behind the leaders, with 16 minutes to go, and with Damo advocating for people to join the Bunny wagon. This does not suggest "the wagon wasn't going anywhere" to me.

in thread at the time, it seemed a dead letter. hamilton and damo, for all their virtues, are not often listened to for a late eod wagon. there wasn't thread monemtum

Then why were you sitting on what you considered to be a "dead" wagon, and you only jumped off it immediately after Hamilton moved onto that "dead" wagon?

[Jamiet99uk]

Plus, Bona, Hamilton had mentioned that he scum-read Bunny several times during D2:

- Page 53
- Page 62
- Page 70 (twice)
- Page 73

Therefore Hamilton moving his vote onto BunnyGo (off a JustWill wagon, which Damo correctly told him wasn't going anywhere) was consistent with his previously-stated reads.

hamilton had places null or scum reads on most of the game. his reads list had 5 reads that could possibly be remotely construed as townleans

I am talking about Hamilton's scum-read on BunnyGo.

I am not talking about Hamilton's null-reads or his town-reads.

[Bonatogether]

Hamilton's vote moved Bunny from (2) up to (3), only one vote behind the leaders, with 16 minutes to go, and with Damo advocating for people to join the Bunny wagon. This does not suggest "the wagon wasn't going anywhere" to me.

in thread at the time, it seemed a dead letter. hamilton and damo, for all their virtues, are not often listened to for a late eod wagon. there wasn't thread monemtum

Then why were you sitting on what you considered to be a "dead" wagon, and you only jumped off it immediately after Hamilton moved onto that "dead" wagon?

i didn't have particularly strong feelings about either hamilton or temasek, so i voted for my scumread. i voted for hamilton because i thought his vote was particularly scummy, as i believe i indicated

[Bonatogether]

Plus, Bona, Hamilton had mentioned that he scum-read Bunny several times during D2:

- Page 53
- Page 62
- Page 70 (twice)
- Page 73

Therefore Hamilton moving his vote onto BunnyGo (off a JustWill wagon, which Damo correctly told him wasn't going anywhere) was consistent with his previously-stated reads.

hamilton had places null or scum reads on most of the game. his reads list had 5 reads that could possibly be remotely construed as townleans

I am talking about Hamilton's scum-read on BunnyGo.

I am not talking about Hamilton's null-reads or his town-reads.

this makes no sense.

the point is that he had demonstrated that he had many scumreads or things that could be presented as scumreads.

[Chaqa]

I don't mind being Vig fodder btw

Interesting bluff?

Maybe it's a self-fulfilling prophecy, but I think it's better that than wasting a full day phase on flipping me.

[Chaqa]

tl;dr:

Flip Bonatogether tomorrow, and if he is scum, flip BunnyGo.

If Bonatogether dies and is not scum, flip Chaqa or JustWill.

Will is my strongest townread :/

[worcej]

Missed phase change due to college football.

Rough to see HB was the flip, but I didn’t have a strong read or defense of him - I just didn’t like the 3 votes on him last I saw.

hate this post

I mean, you can hate it but college football rivalry weekend when my team was 11-0 going into the weekend was far more important than this game

[BunnyGo]

Missed phase change due to college football.

Rough to see HB was the flip, but I didn’t have a strong read or defense of him - I just didn’t like the 3 votes on him last I saw.

hate this post

I mean, you can hate it but college football rivalry weekend when my team was 11-0 going into the weekend was far more important than this game

Is your team (the!)OSU?

[worcej]

Bozotheclown was the penultimate Hamilton voter, moving from Temasek. Bozo stated that he thought Hamilton's play was consistent with a previous recent scum game appearance by Hamilton.

(I have checked, and Hamilton was scum in the game Bozo referenced).

Do you town him for this move? It’s implied but seeking explicit answer.

[worcej]

hate this post

I mean, you can hate it but college football rivalry weekend when my team was 11-0 going into the weekend was far more important than this game

Is your team (the!)OSU?

No - University of Washington. It’s my alumni and I live very near WSU so I was at a watch party as the only Husky fan lol

[BunnyGo]

I mean, you can hate it but college football rivalry weekend when my team was 11-0 going into the weekend was far more important than this game

Is your team (the!)OSU?

No - University of Washington. It’s my alumni and I live very near WSU so I was at a watch party as the only Husky fan lol

Fun!

But the part I didn’t like was the second part of the post.

[ghug]

If Ham flips town I will push Bona to the helll if I am alive tomorrow.

Although this is also kind of sus.

Why sus? Bona managed to convince a new player to change his vote on something he knows it's rigged. It's just the opposite of what I think is a fair play (not against the rules I know). I fail to see how a town player will resort to that, but maybe I am old too old-fashioned. Anyway, I will vote Bona tomorrow unless him and his partners decide to kill me tonight.

I also shaded Bona. I just think you doing so before the flip is scummy.