MAfIA 84 - A VERY TENDER THANKSGIVING GAME THREAD

[bozotheclown]

voting for self-pres as i stated i would

##vote sweetandcool

Ach, bad timing, I just changed my vote.

I keep coming back to this sequence. It’s so strange if Bona is scum.

I think I owe sweet a handshake if Bona is scum after this sequence.

Especially as Bona changed his vote before sweet.

That sequence is one of the things that makes me think sweetandcool might have been bussing Bonatogether. Another is Bonatogether waiting that long to vote for sweetandcool.

[ghug]

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He's kept them and been asked for them in the thread, which has immediately garnered townreads. I don't think I'd trust it again.

Huh? Why?

Not saying I wouldn't like to see it. It's possible there's content inside that would make me trust you more. It's just that that first time it became clear that you had notes and the mere act that you were able to provide them upon request made you look townie. Now you know that they had that effect and you're the one offering, so there's scum motivation for making them and I'm not going to automatically townread them.

[worcej]

why

Why do I want to put him out of his misery? Because he doesn’t seem to enjoy Mafia from what I can tell from his prior few games.

Why do I think it’s a waste of a day kill? I feel like him not even bothering with the game is mostly town him. Scum him would be more engaged. I also don’t think he is capable (by choice, not skill) of faking lurking if he was scum.

what's the in game argument for why he's town? i would doubt that he's incapable of just not hitting the submit post button

There isn’t an in-game reason, it’s purely meta/person analysis.

There isn’t really any information to justify either a scum or town read of chaqa atm because of how little he has done.

[bozotheclown]

Some mere thoughts from a very fallible player.
Bona looks ok.
Bozo definitely looks town to me.
Bunny...I did not like on D1, and I still don't like.
Damo...I would like to like them, but I am hesitant this game.
Chaqa? Bleqa.
ghug more town than not.
heart...less town, maybe Bunny's partner.
jamie...just not liking them this game.
JustAWill I am liking as much as Bunny and jamie
Macca is in the "don't like" pile
Rivera is a blank to me
Tema is a blank
Worcej is town to me

So there's 3 left. In my don't like/not sure group there's Bunny, Damo, Chaqa, heart, jamie, just, macca, rivera, and tema. That's not a good number. I'd be good flipping any of them but I want some more time this afternoon before settling on macca.

Why does Bonatogether look OK to you?

[worcej]

Super not upset being the leading wagon right now. It’s confirming a couple of things for me.

Bunny, do you want a share with my Google doc I made for the game? I only have D1 notes so far and a couple of N1 notes, but the charts are neat and tidy. You can share it with your mafia team in discord.

Oh god, this brings back spreadsheet memories…

[Bonatogether]

Why do I want to put him out of his misery? Because he doesn’t seem to enjoy Mafia from what I can tell from his prior few games.

Why do I think it’s a waste of a day kill? I feel like him not even bothering with the game is mostly town him. Scum him would be more engaged. I also don’t think he is capable (by choice, not skill) of faking lurking if he was scum.

what's the in game argument for why he's town? i would doubt that he's incapable of just not hitting the submit post button

There isn’t an in-game reason, it’s purely meta/person analysis.

There isn’t really any information to justify either a scum or town read of chaqa atm because of how little he has done.

voting him would be hilarious

[brainbomb]

At the old mine.

(Miners are gathered from the small town)

Paschal Hutton: I have funded a dig to re-open the old mine. And save these lost souls..I only hope you can take this honor as-

(Lacey Chabert rides up on a motorcycle)

Lacey Chabert: Wanna go for a ride with a Princess?

Paschal Hutton: I could stay and celebrate re opening the mine;
but.. My conservative values are telling me..
Oh hell with it, my urges are kicking in.
I will ride with you Lacey.

Vote Count
Hamilton Brian (4) Jamiet99uk JustAGuyNamedWill Chaqa BunnyGo
Temasek22 (2) Macca573 heartthrob24909
Macca573 (2) Temasek22 worcej
BunnyGo (2) damo666 Bonatogether
Bonatogether (1) bozotheclown
damo666 (1) ghug
Chaqa (1) rdrivera2005
JustAGuyNamedWill (1) Hamilton Brian

Hamilton Brian is scheduled to die
1 hour remains

[ghug]

what's the in game argument for why he's town? i would doubt that he's incapable of just not hitting the submit post button

There isn’t an in-game reason, it’s purely meta/person analysis.

There isn’t really any information to justify either a scum or town read of chaqa atm because of how little he has done.

voting him would be hilarious

I'll do it but only if we hammer.

[bozotheclown]

But actually ##VOTE bona though

I assume this is a jocular reaction vote and not one that will last.
Bona ain't scum.

Why not?

[damo666]

But actually ##VOTE bona though

I assume this is a jocular reaction vote and not one that will last.
Bona ain't scum.

Why not?

Already answered this.

[heartthrob24909]

All caught up. Hi again, all.

Out-of-game takeaway: I should probably be taking notes.

In-game takeaway:
- I read rdr as town. I find his takes articulate and original.
- I don't think that Bunny asking more questions than answering them to be inherently not-town. He's played that way during our games at work where he's been town. I know this is based in "meta" rather than data from this game but figured I would offer that forward.
- I'm not immediately keen to jump on the Macca as scum train, ever since her take about damo/tem. While sure some earlier takes of hers have lacked substance, they're reminding me of the types of contributions I feel like I'm making so I gain some comfort seeing her throw out good ideas when asked directly.
- The Ham/Jamie saga I'm still wrapping my head around. I think Ham could've given Jamie the clear responses he was looking for a lot sooner and avoided some of this trouble. But I also don't think Ham was really "shading" Jamie disproportionately more than he was others. Is it normal to NEED to know people's concrete reasons for throwing your name out? It's not like there was a ton of momentum behind Jamie's name.

[bozotheclown]

I assume this is a jocular reaction vote and not one that will last.
Bona ain't scum.

Why not?

Already answered this.

Bonatogether voted for sweetandcool to cause a tie saying he was voting to save himself, yet he could have put Macca in the lead. What about the game state makes you think that ensures he is town?

[damo666]

Why not?

Already answered this.

Bonatogether voted for sweetandcool to cause a tie saying he was voting to save himself, yet he could have put Macca in the lead. What about the game state makes you think that ensures he is town?

Precisely. He could have put Macca in the lead yet switched to Sweet. Why would scumBona switch to ScumSweet rather than Macca (unless Macca also scum but in that case why move at all? Why not wait and see?

Or are you saying he took the opportunity to bus Sweet rather than vote Macca (which would be reasonable because he cited self-pres) in order to gain credit in the event Sweet flipped? I guess you are. I suppose that's plausible. Say 20%?

[ghug]

##VOTE Temasek

[bozotheclown]

Already answered this.

Bonatogether voted for sweetandcool to cause a tie saying he was voting to save himself, yet he could have put Macca in the lead. What about the game state makes you think that ensures he is town?

Precisely. He could have put Macca in the lead yet switched to Sweet. Why would scumBona switch to ScumSweet rather than Macca (unless Macca also scum but in that case why move at all? Why not wait and see?

Or are you saying he took the opportunity to bus Sweet rather than vote Macca (which would be reasonable because he cited self-pres) in order to gain credit in the event Sweet flipped? I guess you are. I suppose that's plausible. Say 20%?

Something like that.

[bozotheclown]

##VOTE Temasek

[ghug]

##VOTE Temasek

Bozo tie hype.

[Bonatogether]

4-4-2-2-1-1

[Bonatogether]

both temasek and hamilton are not voting each other

[Jamiet99uk]

Hey. Jamie. What's. Up?

Did I fail to make my query clear?