MAfIA 84 - A VERY TENDER THANKSGIVING GAME THREAD

[Hamilton Brian]

@bona, what do you mean default?

[damo666]

Super not upset being the leading wagon right now. It’s confirming a couple of things for me.

Bunny, do you want a share with my Google doc I made for the game? I only have D1 notes so far and a couple of N1 notes, but the charts are neat and tidy. You can share it with your mafia team in discord.

Vote Bunny. Will ain't gonna fly.

[BunnyGo]

Super not upset being the leading wagon right now. It’s confirming a couple of things for me.

Bunny, do you want a share with my Google doc I made for the game? I only have D1 notes so far and a couple of N1 notes, but the charts are neat and tidy. You can share it with your mafia team in discord.

I mean…that’d be great and all…but I think damo needs the spreadsheet help more.

Do your notes just say “don’t like” and “like”?

I’ll admit, I don’t think you’re method enough to try keeping a sheet as scum. Have you kept sheets prior as town?

[BunnyGo]

Look at vote status when he switched from Tem to Sweet

And you think bozo incapable/disinterested/unlikely to ACTUALLY bus someone?

Not at that position

Ok. I think he is capable of that, fwiw.

[Hamilton Brian]

Super not upset being the leading wagon right now. It’s confirming a couple of things for me.

Bunny, do you want a share with my Google doc I made for the game? I only have D1 notes so far and a couple of N1 notes, but the charts are neat and tidy. You can share it with your mafia team in discord.

Do your notes just say “don’t like” and “like”?

Nope
I’ll admit, I don’t think you’re method enough to try keeping a sheet as scum. Have you kept sheets prior as town?
Every game

[BunnyGo]

Super not upset being the leading wagon right now. It’s confirming a couple of things for me.

Bunny, do you want a share with my Google doc I made for the game? I only have D1 notes so far and a couple of N1 notes, but the charts are neat and tidy. You can share it with your mafia team in discord.

Do your notes just say “don’t like” and “like”?

Nope
I’ll admit, I don’t think you’re method enough to try keeping a sheet as scum. Have you kept sheets prior as town?
Every game

Every game as scum too?! Am I that wrong about you?

[Bonatogether]

@bona, what do you mean default?

you said you want more time to think before deciding on macca

this implies that you consider macca the most likely kill that you would support, and the most likely kill for town to resolve upon. why do you believe that

[Hamilton Brian]

Not sure I do; going back and forth on will, macca, just not clear. Just think if I’m going to go as the miskill I want some final thoughts to be clear. More time.

[Bonatogether]

Not sure I do; going back and forth on will, macca, just not clear. Just think if I’m going to go as the miskill I want some final thoughts to be clear. More time.

i'm reading back your post to you

[Bonatogether]

bongo you should +1 more of my posts

[ghug]

Do you believe both Bona and Macca are scum?

I believe Bona is town and Macca is likely scum

So could you explain me why scum Macca is more likely then town Macca to make a sudden change after a aub if the person subbed is town? This is the main reason I am voting you, you jumped on Macca and stayed on it with a reason that doesn't make sense.

It's weird to change vote because you like the people who subbed in? Yes it is. It's scum indicative? No, it's completely NAI to me. And I think town Temasek would approach this differently.

Rd making a lot of sense, at least, which is very slightly town indicative.

[ghug]

I believe Bona is town and Macca is likely scum

So could you explain me why scum Macca is more likely then town Macca to make a sudden change after a aub if the person subbed is town? This is the main reason I am voting you, you jumped on Macca and stayed on it with a reason that doesn't make sense.

It's weird to change vote because you like the people who subbed in? Yes it is. It's scum indicative? No, it's completely NAI to me. And I think town Temasek would approach this differently.

Not much happens D1, something "weird" is enough to cause a vote to be placed.

The way I see it, ND/Bona is an easy target to jump on/miskill due to ND's somewhat hostile (but NAI) opening posts and the substitution that causes chaos. So I paid close attention to those who voted Bona to see the reasons they voted for him. sweet caught my attention, and so did Macca. Those were the only 2 people I voted for on D1 at any point.

At one point, my logic was that scum Macca thought ND/Bona is an easy target to miskill D1, but then felt bad because of her out of game relation with Bona, and therefore voted no kill instead.

Later on I realised this was probably NAI, and responded to I think either Jamie or bozo who questioned me about this early on D2.

My current reasoning for voting Macca on D2 is that she has just been lurking too hard, half her posts are about her out of game relation with Bona, she had never expanded on any townreads or scumreads. And her only 2 scumreads are people who scumread her.

Why do you assert that ND's antagonism is NAI?

[ghug]

I was really talking about D1/N1 deliberate lurking in order to simply survive. We're well into day 2 now.

FWIW here is the frequency of poss scumteams

Chaqa, Ham, rdr 11
Bunny 9
heart 3
Tem 2
Macca 2

What do you mean frequency? Not sure I understand where this list / numbers are coming from.

Firstly I assumed certain players were town and then of the remainder I identified any pairs I deemed unlikely. I then listed all the possible teams of the three remaining scum and then counted how many times each individual player appeared in different teams. This gives a frequency count per player as listed above.

So for example although I think Tem may be scum there are only 2 teams I think he can be in so imo he is not a value vote.

Hope this helps.

Can you list the pairs?

[ghug]

My current reasoning for voting Macca on D2 is that she has just been lurking too hard, half her posts are about her out of game relation with Bona, she had never expanded on any townreads or scumreads. And her only 2 scumreads are people who scumread her.

Doesn't that describe say, I don't know...9 out of the remaining 14 players?

The other 8 of 14 wouldn't just say:

"I think temask and will are scum.

together? maybe, maybe not"

"I'm liking Jamie and Ghug

Not liking Tem and Damo"

I think spending time making your reads look nice is far scummier than just throwing them out there.

[ghug]

This milkshake is awful.

Sickly vanilla.

Made in French Canada…

This is my favorite Drake song.

[JustAGuyNamedWill]

I was really talking about D1/N1 deliberate lurking in order to simply survive. We're well into day 2 now.

FWIW here is the frequency of poss scumteams

Chaqa, Ham, rdr 11
Bunny 9
heart 3
Tem 2
Macca 2

What do you mean frequency? Not sure I understand where this list / numbers are coming from.

Firstly I assumed certain players were town and then of the remainder I identified any pairs I deemed unlikely. I then listed all the possible teams of the three remaining scum and then counted how many times each individual player appeared in different teams. This gives a frequency count per player as listed above.

So for example although I think Tem may be scum there are only 2 teams I think he can be in so imo he is not a value vote.

Hope this helps.

This feels like it relies on too many assumptions to be plausible

[ghug]

Super not upset being the leading wagon right now. It’s confirming a couple of things for me.

Bunny, do you want a share with my Google doc I made for the game? I only have D1 notes so far and a couple of N1 notes, but the charts are neat and tidy. You can share it with your mafia team in discord.

I mean…that’d be great and all…but I think damo needs the spreadsheet help more.

Do your notes just say “don’t like” and “like”?

I’ll admit, I don’t think you’re method enough to try keeping a sheet as scum. Have you kept sheets prior as town?

He's kept them and been asked for them in the thread, which has immediately garnered townreads. I don't think I'd trust it again.

[brainbomb]

Meanwhile on When Calls the Gobbler

Paschal Hutton: I can sense there are no more good men left. My only option now is to go to the place called Sturgis.

Jebediah: (Grunts)

Paschal Hutton: Youre right Jeb Jeb. My heart is calling me back to the mine shaft. I have to save the miners. My conservative values are telling me Home is where the collapsed mine is.

Hamilton Brian (4) Jamiet99uk JustAGuyNamedWill Chaqa BunnyGo
Temasek22 (2) Macca573 heartthrob24909
Macca573 (2) Temasek22 worcej
BunnyGo (2) damo666 Bonatogether
Bonatogether (1) bozotheclown
damo666 (1) ghug
Chaqa (1) rdrivera2005
JustAGuyNamedWill (1) Hamilton Brian

Currently Hamilton Brian is sceheduled to die
under 2 hours remain

[bozotheclown]

re-reads suggesting a tem/damo scumteam... damo (rightfully) identifies tem as maf, goes to maf chat, come day 2 damo says

According to my calcs based on certain (undisclosed) assumptions there are far too few triples Tem could be part of so I'm moving my vote.

##vote Chaqa - suspiciously quiet

So a secret reason for not voting a guy who you agreed was scummy (cause now he's catching a lot of votes and you can't afford to lose another one)

I like this theory.

[Hamilton Brian]

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He's kept them and been asked for them in the thread, which has immediately garnered townreads. I don't think I'd trust it again.

Huh? Why?