MAfIA 84 - A VERY TENDER THANKSGIVING GAME THREAD

[Temasek22]

why is temasek a leading wagon at this moment

Long story short I've been lurking too much and my voting record sticks out like a sore thumb (only person to vote sweet at one point before moving off). If I were anyone else I'd probs find myself somewhat suspicious as well.

people should just vote for who i want

Holy hell you're right

##Vote Just

[Temasek22]

Ok but in all seriousness Just is such a weird case, his suspicious behaviour could very much be due to being scum or being a newbie, I'm leaning very slightly towards newbie now.

Changing my vote back to ##vote Macca

[damo666]

So then why were worc and spirit towncore and not me before that comment?

Odds of the average living player being town are 79% so your math is also pretty sus.

Tone.

I just picked 80% as a round number > 11/14. 90 would've been better. Anyway as you keep pursuing this I think the likelihood you were bussing diminishes.

I am now thinking all 3 mafia were off sweet and I think we should concentrate on this group. The strategy is still sound with one busser.

In fact I would be inclined to vote anyone off sweet who votes for a sweet voter.

I don't agree much with this approach as this is mostly mechanical and not considering people's reasoning. It makes also easier for scum to hide if you voted Sweet you are safe. If you didn't vote Sweet just vote other non Sweet voter and you are safe. Lazy approach.

Townpoints for this response. Nobody in that bracket atm anyway.

[damo666]

According to my calcs based on certain (undisclosed) assumptions there are far too few triples Tem could be part of so I'm moving my vote.

##vote Chaqa - suspiciously quiet

[Jamiet99uk]

I've got two particular moments. If it's picked up by others then I'll feel validated. If not, then I'll know that I was probably on the wrong track.

If you were OMGUS-ing as mafia, I'd expect you to do it more subtly.

Or would you...?

Okay, so Hamilton is turning this into a quiz for the class. I see.

Would anyone like to point out the two particular moments, from me, which appear to cause Hamilton to scumread me?

[Jamiet99uk]

According to my calcs based on certain (undisclosed) assumptions there are far too few triples Tem could be part of so I'm moving my vote.

##vote Chaqa - suspiciously quiet

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Earlier today you said you thought Chaqa's inactivity was NAI.

What changed your view?

[damo666]

According to my calcs based on certain (undisclosed) assumptions there are far too few triples Tem could be part of so I'm moving my vote.

##vote Chaqa - suspiciously quiet

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Earlier today you said you thought Chaqa's inactivity was NAI.

What changed your view?

I was really talking about D1/N1 deliberate lurking in order to simply survive. We're well into day 2 now.

FWIW here is the frequency of poss scumteams

Chaqa, Ham, rdr 11
Bunny 9
heart 3
Tem 2
Macca 2

[damo666]

But seriously ##Vote No-Kill as a placeholder while I reconsider.

Nobody went for my Temasek wagon. But let the record show that I wanted a Temasek wagon D1*.

* I would say this as scum if Temasek was my partner(1).

(1) Or would I?

This?

[damo666]

I probably worded it poorly, but I was aware that the substitution had no impact on Macca's vote, in fact, it made Macca pull her vote out of ND/Bona

From my view, the way things happened was.

>ND acted very hostile, enough for Macca to think he's scum on reread
>ND subs out for Bona
>Macca rereads the thread due to missing early game, and votes for Bona due to ND's actions before subbing out
>Macca changes vote to No Kill due to out-of-game factors regarding Bona

I just found this sequence interesting, and suspicious on first glance. But come to think of it now it feels more like town behaviour

This is a coherent explanation, thank you Temasek.

This

[Jamiet99uk]

@Damo:

Both items you have highlighted would imply you believe Hamilton Brian thinks I am scum with Temasek.

However, Hamilton Brian has listed myself and JustWill as his top two suspects, and has not said that he scumreads Temasek.

(I would invite Hamilton Brian, Damo, and anyone else to discuss this).

[damo666]

@Damo:

Both items you have highlighted would imply you believe Hamilton Brian thinks I am scum with Temasek.

However, Hamilton Brian has listed myself and JustWill as his top two suspects, and has not said that he scumreads Temasek.

(I would invite Hamilton Brian, Damo, and anyone else to discuss this).

It's hard to know what's mushrooming in Brian's brain but maybe he thinks it's you, Will and Tem.

[Jamiet99uk]

Sigh.

I don't particularly want town to have to spend the next 24+ hours playing the thrilling guessing game of "Why could it be that Hamilton Brian wrongly suspects Jamie?"

[worcej]

I think it's a bit odd few people are throwing suspicion my way given how I've pretty much been a non-factor. I think there's probably some reading into who hasn't said much vs. the few who have, but maybe the thrill of catching mafia on Day 1 has stymied that.

We’ve had recent success catching someone on D1, but I don’t think that has anything to do with suspicion directed at you explicitly.

[Jamiet99uk]

Good afternoon, Worcej.

[worcej]

You because of your possible deflection by the bussing post. Bona because I need something more to towncore him.

So I went from towncore to scummy in your mind by suggesting there was bussing, something the majority of the game agrees with?

You were never towncore and not particularly scummy but I have a nagging feeling that your bus comment may have been a clever scum deception. I put you at something like 65% town. Need to over 80% to be towncore.

Pinning this in my memory for future games lol

[worcej]

Good afternoon, Worcej.

Still morning over here, but good afternoon to you at least lol

[worcej]

I think it's a bit odd few people are throwing suspicion my way given how I've pretty much been a non-factor. I think there's probably some reading into who hasn't said much vs. the few who have, but maybe the thrill of catching mafia on Day 1 has stymied that.

Maybe you have been trying to be a non-factor on purpose.

Chaqa's new style is to lay low to survive until D2 at least.

I mean, his style he said many games ago is he won’t be invested in early phases and will do more later. It’s NAI FWIW

[worcej]

What's "shit-wolfing?"

unpleasant I would think

Proof Damo has humor lol

[worcej]

I checked my vibe to see if it might be true for me that I recall games that I am mafia in, and my teammates, more easily than not. I think I have to disagree with worcej. I don't really recall. I know there was one really bad one where I was with jamie, brain, ghug, and bozo but I really shit the bed. That was the game where I got caught bussing ghug then jumped off at the last minute (definitely a small town guy with a confidence problem). That's it though.

Maybe it’s just me then.

[worcej]

You were never towncore and not particularly scummy but I have a nagging feeling that your bus comment may have been a clever scum deception. I put you at something like 65% town. Need to over 80% to be towncore.

So then why were worc and spirit towncore and not me before that comment?

Odds of the average living player being town are 79% so your math is also pretty sus.

Tone.

I just picked 80% as a round number > 11/14. 90 would've been better. Anyway as you keep pursuing this I think the likelihood you were bussing diminishes.

I am now thinking all 3 mafia were off sweet and I think we should concentrate on this group. The strategy is still sound with one busser.

In fact I would be inclined to vote anyone off sweet who votes for a sweet voter.

Ahh, another person falling victim to challenging damo on math